Dr Gloom 19714 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Craig said: Nor was I the only one, smeg head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 27/01/2023 at 17:43, Isegrim said: That’s mean. Even CN doesn’t deserve this tbh. I am with Craig though. I do think that’s our business done this window. Caulkin and Ornstein do think so, too. 5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8926 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Howay said: https://swissramble.substack.com/p/will-chelseas-transfer-spend-break Here’s the piece, so their losses are fucking huge each year and unlikely to improve but they’ve been overcoming them with massive player sales. The issue they have is that’s less likely going forward, which has started telling with the struggles to move on the likes of Bakayoko, Lukaku, Ziyech, etc. Was just having a look at their business in the last 7 seasons. They've made significant losses in 5/7 seasons from 2017-2023. 19/20 they sold Hazard for £100m, and 2021/22 they sold a few players to offset £99m of the £99.4m they spent on Lukaku. They've consistently made significant losses on their transfers as well. I get that a player's value isn't simply measured in terms of fees paid vs fees recouped, but Holy Shit; £15m on Barkley, barely played released on a free. (-£15m) £30m on Rudiger, mainstay of the team, free transferred. (-£30m) £33m on Drinkwater, barely played, free transfer 5 years later. (-£33m) £34m on Batshuayi, barely played and only recouped £8m from loan and transfer fees. (-£26m) £35m on Bakayoko, £11m from loan and transfer fees. (-£24m) £46m on Timo Werner, sold for £17.5m 2 seasons later. (-£28.5m) £100m Romelu Lukaku in 2021/22 loan fee of c£7m the following season. (-£93m) And that's ignoring the wages they've dished out to these players. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Craig said: we have two luke edwards fanboys in our midst then. potentially three, with wykiki also looking like he'll be on the chicken and wine train before the match kicks off at this rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16454 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Fish said: Was just having a look at their business in the last 7 seasons. They've made significant losses in 5/7 seasons from 2017-2023. 19/20 they sold Hazard for £100m, and 2021/22 they sold a few players to offset £99m of the £99.4m they spent on Lukaku. They've consistently made significant losses on their transfers as well. I get that a player's value isn't simply measured in terms of fees paid vs fees recouped, but Holy Shit; £15m on Barkley, barely played released on a free. (-£15m) £30m on Rudiger, mainstay of the team, free transferred. (-£30m) £33m on Drinkwater, barely played, free transfer 5 years later. (-£33m) £34m on Batshuayi, barely played and only recouped £8m from loan and transfer fees. (-£26m) £35m on Bakayoko, £11m from loan and transfer fees. (-£24m) £46m on Timo Werner, sold for £17.5m 2 seasons later. (-£28.5m) £100m Romelu Lukaku in 2021/22 loan fee of c£7m the following season. (-£93m) And that's ignoring the wages they've dished out to these players. Drinkwater Forgot about him. Now at Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: we have two luke edwards fanboys in our midst then. potentially three, with wykiki also looking like he'll be on the chicken and wine train before the match kicks off at this rate As I said, the notion that you're daring to suggest anyone is of a negative disposition is utterly ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 922 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 dont see the point in conor unless its a dry loan only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Craig said: As I said, the notion that you're daring to suggest anyone is of a negative disposition is utterly ridiculous alright, luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8926 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Drinkwater Forgot about him. Now at Reading. Chelsea have a ridiculously bad record on transfers, but because they've been propped up it's not really damaged them. Yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8926 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Ornstein says Gallagher's going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30202 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Craig said: as funny as the patter is, the player’s nonplussed reaction to the deal being done was the best part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8926 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Alex said: as funny as the patter is, the player’s nonplussed reaction to the deal being done was the best part Miguel de Souza, 15 appearances, 0 goals. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30202 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, The Fish said: Miguel de Souza, 15 appearances, 0 goals. That goals bonus was ambitious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6431 Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, The Fish said: Miguel de Souza, 15 appearances, 0 goals. What was his xG though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 hours ago, David Kelly said: I think we're taking a real risk in terms of going for Champions League qualification if we don't have a midfielder come in. We all knew we were short at the begining of the window and although Shelvey has played very little this season. selling him certainly doesn't help matters. And I don't buy the theory that bringing Gordon in allows us to move Joelinton back more centrally. We've had Maxi pretty much fit since before the world cup so we already had that option (Isak further increased the options too). I'm certainly not going to whine on like an Arsenal fan as we're in a fantastic position (hopefully even better after tonight) but I think this would be the first failure of the new regime if we don't bring anyone else in. It might be that we carry luck with injuries and form and Bruno, Joelinton, Longstaff and Willock can carry us through the rest of the season. But even if that happens I think we will have been shown a little wanting this month in our recruitment. agree with this take. Failing to replace Shelvey would feel like the new owner’s first misstep. Our first team is still good enough to finish top 4 but we’re gambling on our midfielders staying fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1053 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Isn't Hayden back with us? I'm sure he could fill in we are struggling with bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 7078 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 these cunts not signed anybody this afternoon? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: these cunts not signed anybody this afternoon? We’ve been linked with a South Korean wonder kid who was often rumoured to be signing on transfer deadline day when Ashley was in charge Fu Kin Nee Won 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, Chaser said: Isn't Hayden back with us? I'm sure he could fill in we are struggling with bodies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26103 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: agree with this take. Failing to replace Shelvey would feel like the new owner’s first misstep. Our first team is still good enough to finish top 4 but we’re gambling on our midfielders staying fit. Signing someone just for the sake of having an extra body would be a mistake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2756 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, ewerk said: Signing someone just for the sake of having an extra body would be a mistake. letting Shelvey go without a replacement lined up was a mistake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34135 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Tough crowd on here ffs. We've spent £260m or something in three windows. A player has left unexpectedly at the end of the window, reportedly for £10m when he's nearly out of contract, and it frees up £70k per week. You can't say no to that. If no one comes in, it won't be for lack of effort, I'm sure. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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