Guest alex Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Another difference between now and the unbeaten runs under Souness is that we are playing some nice stuff and deservedly winning matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 (edited) I think sounding out the fans of a manager's previous clubs is absolutely essential in selecting the manager - as you say Souness would never have been employed had Shepherd bothered to do this and in fact would never work again. However, Roeder is in an unusual situation in that we are getting a try before you buy period. If he does well for the rest of the season then I'd prefer him over most the usual suspects. 103628[/snapback] I suppose what I mean is that I don't appreciate the perceived opinion of the fans en masse, and that I would want to talk to a couple of Hammers fans who's opinions I trust, who are capable of looking past the emotions to give you the facts, let you know the good and the bad. I'm not even sure why FS would have needed anyone's opinion, I felt sick when I heard about Souness' appointment, and I didn't even know that much about him. Edited March 6, 2006 by DotBum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17620 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I think sounding out the fans of a manager's previous clubs is absolutely essential in selecting the manager - as you say Souness would never have been employed had Shepherd bothered to do this and in fact would never work again. However, Roeder is in an unusual situation in that we are getting a try before you buy period. If he does well for the rest of the season then I'd prefer him over most the usual suspects. 103628[/snapback] I suppose what I mean is that I don't appreciate the perceived opinion of the fans en masse, and that I would want to talk to a couple of Hammers fans who's opinions I trust, who are capable of looking past the emotions to give you the facts, let you know the good and the bad. I'm not even sure why FS would have needed anyone's opinion, I felt sick when I heard about Souness' appointment, and I didn't even know that much about him. 103633[/snapback] I think the fans tend to know best. Not just any old fan obviously but the more experienced articulate ones, for instance maybe the editors of fanzines. But in the case of a manager like Souness, there was a clear perception and consensus from the fans of several football clubs he was a poor manager. Seriously, hiring Souness was utter madness. When selecting a manager, I think the chairman should use all means at his disposal to come to an informed choice. For instance, I was certain Gullit would fail, having read media interviews with him when he was at Chelsea which showed him to be an arsehole basically. This was backed up by the fact he lost his job at Stamford Bridge as a result of a players revolt. I knew that the same thing was likely to happen here. Of course, Shepherd either didn't bother doing the research or chose to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Anyone else catch Martin Samuel's shitty comments on Jimmy Hill's Sunday Suplement on SKY yesterday ? "It just goes to show how bad things must have been under Souness for a manager like Glenn Roeder been seen to work a miracle" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags 1 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Nice with the wins but this is still short term stuff. Let's see how he handles a loss with the side- first was the loss a deserved one and the side put out an intelligent choice that was sadly outplayed, second, after such a loss does the side bounce back or slump about again in lower level mediocrity. I'm still not sure about Roeder, but happy with how it's going so far- certainly better than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Best solution would be to keep him on as a coach under a new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I keep reading the title of the thread as 'Bullshit Roeder' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Make him chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I keep reading the title of the thread as 'Bullshit Roeder' 103667[/snapback] Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17620 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I keep reading the title of the thread as 'Bullshit Roeder' 103667[/snapback] So do I for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Make him chairman. 103668[/snapback] You jest, but he'd be better than some chairmen......Doug Ellis etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1053 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 If nothing else, Roeders made this job look a lot easier to take on that it was before GS was sacked. At least now Fred has the opportunity to wait until the end of the season, see what kind of a job Roeder does and takes time over the next appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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