Eddie’s Couldn’t Score in a Brothel Mags vs Guehi’s piss taking underachievers

[Dougle 3643]

[RobinRobin 12279]

[Dr Gloom 23363]

9 hours ago, ewerk said:

I am happy to temporarily cede match threads to you for the Liverpool match if you’ve got the gonads.

[Dr Gloom 23363]

The few bright spots for me yesterday were the defence - Burn and Schar both put in goal-saving tackles/blocks - and Tonali at DM. He has to be given a run in that position. 

[Toonpack 11106]

9 hours ago, ewerk said:

I am happy to temporarily cede match threads to you for the Liverpool match if you’ve got the gonads.

[Toonpack 11106]

We must must MUST, decide on a settled side and stick with it. We’re so disjointed it’s mad, everyone is playing with someone different next to them every week. Am certain that’s why Tino is struggling going forward he’s got a different RW outlet and midfielder next to him every 5 bloody minutes.

 

And Gordon must play on the left, if that means the kid has to play because Wilson can’t do a long shift if Isak’s fucked, so be it.

[Gemmill 49124]

41 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

The few bright spots for me yesterday were the defence - Burn and Schar both put in goal-saving tackles/blocks - and Tonali at DM. He has to be given a run in that position. 

 

Burn and Schar are doing alright at the minute, but I also think we shouldn't kid ourselves that they remotely compare to other central defensive pairings at the upper ends of the division. We're getting by at the minute but it's not gonna last. 

 

Central defence is another key part of the squad where big investment is needed. 

[Chaser 1340]

25 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

We must must MUST, decide on a settled side and stick with it. We’re so disjointed it’s mad, everyone is playing with someone different next to them every week. Am certain that’s why Tino is struggling going forward he’s got a different RW outlet and midfielder next to him every 5 bloody minutes.

 

And Gordon must play on the left, if that means the kid has to play because Wilson can’t do a long shift if Isak’s fucked, so be it.

Osula?

[wykikitoon 22410]

2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Burn and Schar are doing alright at the minute, but I also think we shouldn't kid ourselves that they remotely compare to other central defensive pairings at the upper ends of the division. We're getting by at the minute but it's not gonna last. 

 

Central defence is another key part of the squad where big investment is needed. 

Apart from his OG I thought Guehi looked decent yesterday, especially going forward.

[Toonpack 11106]

15 minutes ago, Chaser said:

Osula?

Aye

[thebrokendoll 10095]

45 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

We must must MUST, decide on a settled side and stick with it. We’re so disjointed it’s mad, everyone is playing with someone different next to them every week. Am certain that’s why Tino is struggling going forward he’s got a different RW outlet and midfielder next to him every 5 bloody minutes.

 

And Gordon must play on the left, if that means the kid has to play because Wilson can’t do a long shift if Isak’s fucked, so be it.

 

soon as isak bumped his hip yesterday I said to the wife that's him going off and probably not to be seen again this year.

oh for a human tank like supermac again man.

[Gemmill 49124]

Starting to wonder about Isak like. He's a brilliant technical player and dead sharp in his head, but he doesn't present a physical challenge at all to PL centre halves, and he breaks down a lot too. 

 

I really like him but I wonder if he wouldn't be better out wide or something. Not that we have a space for him out wide. 

[RobinRobin 12279]

8 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Starting to wonder about Isak like. He's a brilliant technical player and dead sharp in his head, but he doesn't present a physical challenge at all to PL centre halves, and he breaks down a lot too. 

 

I really like him but I wonder if he wouldn't be better out wide or something. Not that we have a space for him out wide. 

Is it worth getting 100+k for him and get Ferguson and a RW for the money? 

[Dr Gloom 23363]

2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

 

Burn and Schar are doing alright at the minute, but I also think we shouldn't kid ourselves that they remotely compare to other central defensive pairings at the upper ends of the division. We're getting by at the minute but it's not gonna last. 

 

Central defence is another key part of the squad where big investment is needed. 

Burn is an able deputy at CB but it will be great to see Botman back.

 

A nee right sided centre back would be welcome but the big issue isn’t the defence. We’re not shipping loads of goals. The biggest problem is the other end of the pitch. 

[Dr Gloom 23363]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

Starting to wonder about Isak like. He's a brilliant technical player and dead sharp in his head, but he doesn't present a physical challenge at all to PL centre halves, and he breaks down a lot too. 

 

I really like him but I wonder if he wouldn't be better out wide or something. Not that we have a space for him out wide. 

Another option at LW but still no fucker good enough to play at RW.

 

I think Isak’s best position at CF. He’s elite but we don’t play to his strengths. Too often he’s isolated and feeding off scraps. His injury record, while not as bad as Wilson, is a concern

[wykikitoon 22410]

8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Another option at LW but still no fucker good enough to play at RW.

 

I think Isak’s best position at CF. He’s elite but we don’t play to his strengths. Too often he’s isolated and feeding off scraps. His injury record, while not as bad as Wilson, is a concern

I think it's the system we're playing doesn't suit him. He's been asked to hold the ball up a lot rather than run onto it or run at players. 

[Dr Gloom 23363]

4 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

I think it's the system we're playing doesn't suit him. He's been asked to hold the ball up a lot rather than run onto it or run at players. 

he would look better with a number 10 slipping balls through to him to run on to but we don’t play that way 

[Holden McGroin 7373]

8 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Starting to wonder about Isak like. He's a brilliant technical player and dead sharp in his head, but he doesn't present a physical challenge at all to PL centre halves, and he breaks down a lot too. 

 

I really like him but I wonder if he wouldn't be better out wide or something. Not that we have a space for him out wide. 

nah. He is a goal machine with the service. We’ve been awful going forward this season. If he played for a top 4 team he’d be smashing them in.

 

his injury record is a worry for me though. Made of glass.

[The Fish 11295]

On 01/12/2024 at 09:44, RobinRobin said:

Is it worth getting 100+k for him and get Ferguson and a RW for the money? 

I'd want more than that for Isak.

[Kid Dynamite 7533]

On 01/12/2024 at 09:44, RobinRobin said:

Is it worth getting 100+k for him and get Ferguson and a RW for the money? 

This issue with selling Isak is he cost us £65mil, so even if we got £100mil for him, it's not enough profit to revamp the whole squad. And you then end up spending £70mil+ to buy Ferguson or similar to replace him, who probably won't get you half as many goals anyway. Same issue with Gordon. 

 

If anyone goes it will be Bruno. He represents the biggest profit margin in the squad and we have Tonali to replace him. 

[Isegrim 10251]

I am no accountant, am not ginger and am not related to Chinese mice, but I am pretty sure amortisation works differently.

[RobinRobin 12279]

15 hours ago, The Fish said:

I'd want more than that for Isak.

[Dazzler 11440]

21 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

This issue with selling Isak is he cost us £65mil, so even if we got £100mil for him, it's not enough profit to revamp the whole squad. And you then end up spending £70mil+ to buy Ferguson or similar to replace him, who probably won't get you half as many goals anyway. Same issue with Gordon. 

 

If anyone goes it will be Bruno. He represents the biggest profit margin in the squad and we have Tonali to replace him. 

We spent a similar fee on Gordon as we did with Bruno. I don't think selling any of the three has a material impact from a PSR point of view (maybe £10m of additional profit in the year of sale give or take).

 

The difference between the three is that Gordon and Bruno both extended their contracts which means we may be able to spread their remaining transfer fees a bit more (stand to be corrected on this) which means the impact on PSR from amortisation is reduced, however it would also stretch the net book value of their transfer fee hitting us in profit if we sell them.

 

As I mentioned though, overall I don't think selling one over the other would make a huge difference in our ability to overhaul the squad (or not). Rough guess you'd be looking at £70m profit recognised on Isak if we sold him for £100m and it wouldn't be a kick in the arse off with Gordon or Bruno.

 

Either way that does have a pretty decent impact on our PSR - but probably not enough to go mental.

[Dr Gloom 23363]

1 hour ago, Dazzler said:

We spent a similar fee on Gordon as we did with Bruno. I don't think selling any of the three has a material impact from a PSR point of view (maybe £10m of additional profit in the year of sale give or take).

 

The difference between the three is that Gordon and Bruno both extended their contracts which means we may be able to spread their remaining transfer fees a bit more (stand to be corrected on this) which means the impact on PSR from amortisation is reduced, however it would also stretch the net book value of their transfer fee hitting us in profit if we sell them.

 

As I mentioned though, overall I don't think selling one over the other would make a huge difference in our ability to overhaul the squad (or not). Rough guess you'd be looking at £70m profit recognised on Isak if we sold him for £100m and it wouldn't be a kick in the arse off with Gordon or Bruno.

 

Either way that does have a pretty decent impact on our PSR - but probably not enough to go mental.

It’s a ridiculous state of affairs that we have to engage in this kind of craic on a football message board. Not blaming you. I don’t understand any of it 

[Dazzler 11440]

1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said:

It’s a ridiculous state of affairs that we have to engage in this kind of craic on a football message board. Not blaming you. I don’t understand any of it 

It feels like you’re blaming me and I’ve made a note of it on my spreadsheet highlighting all the times I’ve had my feelings hurt.