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Funny how politicians hang on and on and on and on

 

 

I think the USA has the right idea - 2 terms as president and yer out

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He'll be out by Christmas IMO.

 

For his allies to come out and say he won't be leader this time next year Blair's like a wounded animal and the vultures (the press) are circulating...

 

BTW, if Brown succeeds him, I'd still expect Cameron to get in at the next General Election. Labour needs to move with the times as they did under Blair. Brown is a step back to a more socialistic Labour which the popular vote won't want...

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Reports today suggest he'll go on May 31st next year. I don't actually believe that the rest of the government and the media should be putting pressure on him to name the day he'll resign. I'm sure he's able to put measures in place for a successor to be elected before he goes and I think a lot of people have jumped on the "he must go" bandwagon unnecessarily.

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BTW, if Brown succeeds him, I'd still expect Cameron to get in at the next General Election. Labour needs to move with the times as they did under Blair. Brown is a step back to a more socialistic Labour which the popular vote won't want...

193479[/snapback]

 

I'd vote for a giant stuffed animal to be elected before I'd vote to let the Tories lead the country again.

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BTW, if Brown succeeds him, I'd still expect Cameron to get in at the next General Election. Labour needs to move with the times as they did under Blair. Brown is a step back to a more socialistic Labour which the popular vote won't want...

193479[/snapback]

 

I'd vote for a giant stuffed animal to be elected before I'd vote to let the Tories lead the country again.

193482[/snapback]

 

As would a lot of people. However I just have this feeling that there's more willing him to give him a go than Brown.

 

Saying that, what's all this foregone conclusion that Brown will be the leader? Surely there needs to be a contest?

 

Still maintain we should have two votes. One for the government and one for who the PM is.

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"Still maintain we should have two votes. One for the government and one for who the PM is."

 

sooo we finish up witha Labour govt and Cameron in charge........... brilliant idea mate, brilliant

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BTW, if Brown succeeds him, I'd still expect Cameron to get in at the next General Election. Labour needs to move with the times as they did under Blair. Brown is a step back to a more socialistic Labour which the popular vote won't want...

193479[/snapback]

 

I'd vote for a giant stuffed animal to be elected before I'd vote to let the Tories lead the country again.

193482[/snapback]

 

How do you know Prescott will stand though?

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He'll be out by Christmas IMO.

 

For his allies to come out and say he won't be leader this time next year Blair's like a wounded animal and the vultures (the press) are circulating...

 

BTW, if Brown succeeds him, I'd still expect Cameron to get in at the next General Election. Labour needs to move with the times as they did under Blair. Brown is a step back to a more socialistic Labour which the popular vote won't want...

193479[/snapback]

Brown has been Chancellor so long the only thing that comes to mind regarding any policies for me is his fiscal prudence. In any case I think simply not being Blair may be enough to win the next election. I think it will be with a small majority though and the one after that will probably be won be the Conservatives.

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If Labour do win the next one, I expect the majority to be tiny (same sort of majority that John Major had).

 

Politics is all swings and roundabouts - no matter how strong a government is, they'll not last much more than 10 years before the electorate want a change. There's too many in this country who sit in the middle and will vote on policy first and party second for it not to be.

 

Cameron has the potential to be as popular as Blair was in '97. What I think is his downfall is that, nearly 12 months after he became leader, we've yet to hear any of his policies should he be heading up the government.

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I fucking hate Cameron, real bandwagon jumper while (as you say) not having any tangible policies. Blair's big problem is Iraq I reckon. You can't really complain too much about the rates of unemployment, state of the economy etc.

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Politics is all swings and roundabouts - no matter how strong a government is, they'll not last much more than 10 years before the electorate want a change. There's too many in this country who sit in the middle and will vote on policy first and party second for it not to be.

 

 

193633[/snapback]

 

 

Most people havent got the first clue about policy, the electorate is criminally misinformed and ignorant. To say they vote on policy is hopelessly naive.

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I think Blair's been clever with unemployment tbh. Lots of these 'new deal' schemes have been created under his leadership and people who normally would have been included in the government unemployment figures are not because of schemes such as this....

 

If the figures were 'people in employment' rather than 'unemployment', I think it'd look somewhat different.

 

But agreed, Iraq is the thing that's really got on people's tits...

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Politics is all swings and roundabouts - no matter how strong a government is, they'll not last much more than 10 years before the electorate want a change. There's too many in this country who sit in the middle and will vote on policy first and party second for it not to be.

 

 

193633[/snapback]

 

 

Most people havent got the first clue about policy, the electorate is criminally misinformed and ignorant. To say they vote on policy is hopelessly naive.

193641[/snapback]

I'd agree with that, in fact most probably don't even vote at all. Charisma, looks etc. are as important as anything, especially in opposition.

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Politics is all swings and roundabouts - no matter how strong a government is, they'll not last much more than 10 years before the electorate want a change. There's too many in this country who sit in the middle and will vote on policy first and party second for it not to be.

 

 

193633[/snapback]

 

 

Most people havent got the first clue about policy, the electorate is criminally misinformed and ignorant. To say they vote on policy is hopelessly naive.

193641[/snapback]

 

OK, they vote on what they believe is policy. How else can you account for someone voting Labour at one election and Conservative the next?

 

I'd suggest most people in this country are actually Liberal but don't see the party as electable, and with very good reason with the clown at the helm...

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OK, they vote on what they believe is policy. How else can you account for someone voting Labour at one election and Conservative the next?

 

I'd suggest most people in this country are actually Liberal but don't see the party as electable, and with very good reason with the clown at the helm...

193649[/snapback]

 

Why don't they vote liberal, then?

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Politics is all swings and roundabouts - no matter how strong a government is, they'll not last much more than 10 years before the electorate want a change. There's too many in this country who sit in the middle and will vote on policy first and party second for it not to be.

 

 

193633[/snapback]

 

 

Most people havent got the first clue about policy, the electorate is criminally misinformed and ignorant. To say they vote on policy is hopelessly naive.

193641[/snapback]

 

OK, they vote on what they believe is policy. How else can you account for someone voting Labour at one election and Conservative the next?

 

I'd suggest most people in this country are actually Liberal but don't see the party as electable, and with very good reason with the clown at the helm...

193649[/snapback]

 

 

People are idiots.

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Set up a "People who think people are idiots" party and you'd get tons of support, largely from people who don't realise it applies to them...

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"Still maintain we should have two votes. One for the government and one for who the PM is."

 

sooo we finish up witha Labour govt and Cameron in charge...........  brilliant idea mate, brilliant

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To be honest, I interpreted that as you vote the party in first, and then pick the leader from that party. Which might work.

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I think the fact that all these junior ministers have resigned in a round-robin system is absolutely appaling, hope they never get a top job in government if thats their definition of loyalty.

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They have a greater loylaty than to a failing Prime Minister - a loyalty to the country, the world and their party

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They have  a greater loylaty than to a failing Prime Minister - a loyalty to the country, the world and their party

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I'd go along with that. Blind loyalty is just that, i.e. blind. See Leazes re: Shepherd :good:

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I think the fact that all these junior ministers have resigned in a round-robin system is absolutely appaling, hope they never get a top job in government if thats their definition of loyalty.

194399[/snapback]

 

They're simply voicing their opinion Ally which they're entitled to do. You'd have had Thatcher in for at least another couple of years had the senior Tories stayed loyal...

 

Let's face it, Blair's had his day and for the good of his party needs to step aside as soon as possible. The longer he digs his heels in, the more damaging it is and the more it's playing into the Tories' hands.

 

There's rumours abound in political circles that even Prescott has suggested that it's time for someone else.

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