ewerk 26103 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 In the same respect i don't fully believe that it's right to tell kids that there's someone who jumps down chimneys to deliver presents every 25th December. And yes, I am hypocritical and mine are told all about Santa Claus. Doesn't make it right though. What harm is it doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) as someone nearer Death than most I guess I reckon there's not a lot of point worying about it Like everyone else I'd prefer it to be quick and clean and painless Dying of cold is the easiest way I understand - you just drift away - but I aint turning the paraffin stove off just yet Are you hoping for a plane crash Rob? all that screaming on the way down ......naaaa -maybe straight into Cumulo Granite would be OK tho' anyway there's a fair chance you'd walk away -there's 32% chance you'll survive an accident in which someone is killed http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm Edited October 9, 2006 by Rob W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17522 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 There's no Santa Clause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 I've had people ask me if I'm worried that I drive under the Heathrow flight path twice a day and I can categorically say that I'm not. You're NAILS! Do people seriously ask you that question as if you're running the gauntlet twice a day? You've probably got more chance of winning the lottery than you have of a plane landing on your head. Yup they do - it's fucking pathetic, isn't it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17522 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 as someone nearer Death than most I guess I reckon there's not a lot of point worying about it Like everyone else I'd prefer it to be quick and clean and painless Dying of cold is the easiest way I understand - you just drift away - but I aint turning the paraffin stove off just yet Are you hoping for a plane crash Rob? all that screaming on the way down ......naaaa -maybe straight into Cumulo Granite would be OK tho' anyway there's a fair chance you'd walk away -there's 32% chance you'll survive an accident in which someone is killed http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm Did you see last weeks Horizon "How to survive a plane crash"? They put the chances at much higher than that actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 In the same respect i don't fully believe that it's right to tell kids that there's someone who jumps down chimneys to deliver presents every 25th December. And yes, I am hypocritical and mine are told all about Santa Claus. Doesn't make it right though. What harm is it doing? I just think it's odd that while you bring up kids teaching them to speak the truth and all along, us as parents are telling them one of the biggest lies there is on the grounds that it makes it more 'magical' for them. Bigging them up for a fall tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17522 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 In the same respect i don't fully believe that it's right to tell kids that there's someone who jumps down chimneys to deliver presents every 25th December. And yes, I am hypocritical and mine are told all about Santa Claus. Doesn't make it right though. What harm is it doing? I just think it's odd that while you bring up kids teaching them to speak the truth and all along, us as parents are telling them one of the biggest lies there is on the grounds that it makes it more 'magical' for them. Bigging them up for a fall tbh I would agree, plus I know of some kids who were bullied at school because they still believed in Santa when all the others didn't. I think this could have a serious negative effect on how they trust their parents. Best compromise is let them believe for a bit but then tell them at a young age it isn't true (maybe about 6 years) I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26103 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 In the same respect i don't fully believe that it's right to tell kids that there's someone who jumps down chimneys to deliver presents every 25th December. And yes, I am hypocritical and mine are told all about Santa Claus. Doesn't make it right though. What harm is it doing? I just think it's odd that while you bring up kids teaching them to speak the truth and all along, us as parents are telling them one of the biggest lies there is on the grounds that it makes it more 'magical' for them. Bigging them up for a fall tbh Bah humbug! Course it makes it more magical for them, thats all part of being a child, every child should be able to have that feeling on Christmas morning of running down the stairs to see what Santa has brought them, its a damn sight more exciting than finding out what your parents have bought you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13921 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) Unless you don't have enough money for decent presents and get yourself into stupid amounts of debt because you don't want your kids thinking that the jolly old fella with the beard is a reet miserly cunt. Edited October 9, 2006 by Meenzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 don't make it right though - like i said, i do it to make it magical for them, but i know one day her dreams will be shattered when i tell her he doesn't actually exist and that we 'made the whole thing up'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13921 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Though on a similar note, I suppose if fabrication and lying to your kids are what you're looking to avoid then there's an argument against celebrating Christmas at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17522 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Though on a similar note, I suppose if fabrication and lying to your kids are what you're looking to avoid then there's an argument against celebrating Christmas at all... I don't, I celebrate Festivus instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13921 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Though on a similar note, I suppose if fabrication and lying to your kids are what you're looking to avoid then there's an argument against celebrating Christmas at all... I don't, I celebrate Festivus instead. I studied in Birmingham, so Winterval is now my celebration of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17522 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Though on a similar note, I suppose if fabrication and lying to your kids are what you're looking to avoid then there's an argument against celebrating Christmas at all... I don't, I celebrate Festivus instead. I studied in Birmingham, so Winterval is now my celebration of choice. No, no, you want to air your grievances around the Festivus pole, none of this Winterval crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Drowning is apparently very unpleasant until you actually get past the trying to breathe stage. There's a point you reach when the final stages are peaceful, but prior to that, the body's instinct is for survival and it makes drowning not fun. The most pleasant and peaceful way to go is apparently hypothermia. Which I imagine got mixed up in the whole drowning thing and has caused the notion of drowning being nice. Lying in sub-zero waters is one way to get hypothermia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Though on a similar note, I suppose if fabrication and lying to your kids are what you're looking to avoid then there's an argument against celebrating Christmas at all... I don't, I celebrate Festivus instead. I studied in Birmingham, so Winterval is now my celebration of choice. No, no, you want to air your grievances around the Festivus pole, none of this Winterval crap. I think Meenz will enjoy the tests of strength more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26103 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 What about carbon monoxide poisioning? Is that peaceful as its supposed to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Suffocated by boob would be a fun way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 What about carbon monoxide poisioning? Is that peaceful as its supposed to be? I've been poisoned by CO - you just fall over - - the important thing IS TO DIE - because if they try and bring you back after a certain stage your brain is f****** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) Nice! I can't begin to imagine the feeling of running out of breath underwater and having to just 'breathe' water in. Although isn't it the CO2 poisioning that kills you first rather than the lack of oxygen? Edited October 9, 2006 by nufc4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17522 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Nice! I can't begin to imagine the feeling of running out of breath underwater and having to just 'breathe' water in. Although isn't it the CO2 poisioning that kills you first rather than the lack of oxygen? No. Lack of oxygen. In fact lack of oxygen to the brain is ultimately what kills us all (apart from people who literally have their brains blown out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 In the same respect i don't fully believe that it's right to tell kids that there's someone who jumps down chimneys to deliver presents every 25th December. And yes, I am hypocritical and mine are told all about Santa Claus. Doesn't make it right though. What harm is it doing? I just think it's odd that while you bring up kids teaching them to speak the truth and all along, us as parents are telling them one of the biggest lies there is on the grounds that it makes it more 'magical' for them. Bigging them up for a fall tbh I would agree, plus I know of some kids who were bullied at school because they still believed in Santa when all the others didn't. I think this could have a serious negative effect on how they trust their parents. Best compromise is let them believe for a bit but then tell them at a young age it isn't true (maybe about 6 years) I reckon. It's a complete pyschological mind-fuck IMO. You tell them one thing for years and then all of a sudden, tell them that you've been lying your arse off to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 It's a complete pyschological mind-fuck IMO. You tell them one thing for years and then all of a sudden, tell them that you've been lying your arse off to them! Once they're old enough to work it out they're old enough to understand why tbh. On the death thing, apparently crucifiction's a doddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6284 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 As is jumping out of the window of a skycraper apparently. They reckon you're unconcious by the time you hit the ground so feel nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) Nice! I can't begin to imagine the feeling of running out of breath underwater and having to just 'breathe' water in. Although isn't it the CO2 poisioning that kills you first rather than the lack of oxygen? No. Lack of oxygen. In fact lack of oxygen to the brain is ultimately what kills us all (apart from people who literally have their brains blown out). Aye, just read the same on this morbid yet fascinating Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drowning I never knew about the mammalian diving reflex - amazing stuff. Edited October 9, 2006 by nufc4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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