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Quiet tonight. The only trouble seems to be in Eltham where the EDL, with no ethnics to pick on, have decided to turn from vigilantes to rioters. Currently involved in a stand off with the Met.

Good post. Though the one thing that doesnt sink with me. I was brought up in benwell from '72 until '79 when I moved to West Denton. It's fair to say I lived in a rough area. I done fuck all at school bar daydream. I fit your example perfectly. Encouraged by my Father to go out and work and that training schemes were slave labour. I got one O level (Actually a GCSE, the first year they were done) and that was in Art. I wanted to resit Maths as I just missed out. Went back to 6th form but left in Jan to get a job and earn money. Didnt go to uni. Dont have a criminal record. Stolen from a shop once as a teen and got caught. Thank fuck I did tbh. Otherwise Im your typical bloke who stays on the right side of the law (bar speeding, but thats another discussion). I now run my own business through nowt but hard graft. I never felt like society owed me anything. Never felt hard done by even when I had my first flat and no carpets, no bed. I slept on a sofa that I was given and washed my clothes in the bath. This was when I was about 19 and in Newbiggin Hall. First job I earned £6500 a year. Never once did I think "fuck this, I deserve better so I'll steal it". Hard graft, head down. Everything I have I've earned. Was on the dole once for 2 weeks and hated it. So, all this talk of "theres no opportunities" and "I dont get paid to go to Uni" or whatever. I'm sure you can see why I think "Fuck You". Also maybe you can see why I do tend to label many on the dole as scroungers. Of course, there are those who try and fail. But there are many who dont. To give a balanced argument though. Criminality is at all levels of society. It not just the poor. The whole things stinks of hypocrisy. The MP scoffs at the 16yr old petty thief while he files his dodgy expenses. Is it so different? But, while that is wrong, it doesnt make the former any more acceptable. You cant look at one and say its ok as the other does it. I blame the parents I actually do btw Difficult to tell from your post but am I right in thinking you came from an essentially loving and caring family? Without trying to sound completely gay here, material poverty is only a small part of the problem. Emotional neglect can be much more damaging for kids, especially young ones. Aye. Mother left us when I was 2 and I was brought up by my Gran mainly while my Dad worked (and still does) on the buses (huge images of Blakey here ) Agree re emotional neglect. I dont like to pre-judge but t's hard not to. When I see some kid getting brayed by his mother who is blowing smoke in his face while she stuffs her face on a pasty, its hard not to think "what chance have you got?"... Do you visit Washington often?

It's great, just like the board used to be, with a badly formatted photo of Shane Ferguson staring back at me once or twice every page.

Good post. Though the one thing that doesnt sink with me. I was brought up in benwell from '72 until '79 when I moved to West Denton. It's fair to say I lived in a rough area. I done fuck all at school bar daydream. I fit your example perfectly. Encouraged by my Father to go out and work and that training schemes were slave labour. I got one O level (Actually a GCSE, the first year they were done) and that was in Art. I wanted to resit Maths as I just missed out. Went back to 6th form but left in Jan to get a job and earn money. Didnt go to uni. Dont have a criminal record. Stolen from a shop once as a teen and got caught. Thank fuck I did tbh. Otherwise Im your typical bloke who stays on the right side of the law (bar speeding, but thats another discussion). I now run my own business through nowt but hard graft. I never felt like society owed me anything. Never felt hard done by even when I had my first flat and no carpets, no bed. I slept on a sofa that I was given and washed my clothes in the bath. This was when I was about 19 and in Newbiggin Hall. First job I earned £6500 a year. Never once did I think "fuck this, I deserve better so I'll steal it". Hard graft, head down. Everything I have I've earned. Was on the dole once for 2 weeks and hated it. So, all this talk of "theres no opportunities" and "I dont get paid to go to Uni" or whatever. I'm sure you can see why I think "Fuck You". Also maybe you can see why I do tend to label many on the dole as scroungers. Of course, there are those who try and fail. But there are many who dont. To give a balanced argument though. Criminality is at all levels of society. It not just the poor. The whole things stinks of hypocrisy. The MP scoffs at the 16yr old petty thief while he files his dodgy expenses. Is it so different? But, while that is wrong, it doesnt make the former any more acceptable. You cant look at one and say its ok as the other does it. I blame the parents I actually do btw I think it shows the cataclysmic change in society and attitudes over the past 20/30 years. Your story isn't really an uncommon one for the time. EDIT: I've no idea what's posted below but thank fuck I've got CT on ignore.

As Stevie said a while back, potentially the first player to get booed at his own testimonial. Isnt be becoming a bit of cult figure now? Or is that just me? Not just you Painfully average but I can't help but like the bloke. Gets far too much abuse from the stands. He's the epitome of what has been going wrong at the club for several years now. He has his short spells of brilliance where he looks like a decent squad player and that help him to get new deals, but for the other 80% of a season he is either injured or just plain shit. There is a reason Keegan wanted to get rid of him to move on and take the club forward with all other managers deciding to stick with him the club is not making any progress. He's 29 years old now and most women have a better grasp of the offside rule than him. I agree. I still like him though. He's shit but he's our shit.

His hip is more or less in tatters too, isn't it?

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It can't come as any surprise that the store they're looting are Currys, Jessops, JD Sports etc. We live in a nation that is wrapped up in consumerism. You can't turn anywhere without being battered by aspirational messages - buy this, shop there, wear that etc. No matter how misplaced the anger and pointless the looting knicking a pair of Nike Airs is their political statement. Listen to them when they're interviewed - hardly the most eloquent people in the world but when they're not talking about "fuckin' da feds, innit" there does seem to be a degree of understanding of both the political and social implications of what has happened and what's to come. The number of people claiming benefits because they're out for an easy ride is pretty minimal, yet as this thread shows the scrounger stereotype pervades any discussion about those on the dole or disability. No wonder there's disenfranchisement amongst certain areas of society when they're constantly told that the 'career path' they're being forced down due to circumstances outside their control makes them second class citizens. It doesn't help that this message is being passed down by politicians who have stole more cash from the country than they have, the fans being flamed by the journalists who have wronged more people than they have and doors are being slammed shut in their faces thanks to the greediness of the bankers who are still being treated like the goose that laid the golden egg. In school we remind kids that they're not quite good enough, so even if they do get out they're never going to have made it - don't get the grades and you're just another waster, get the grades and it's because the exams were easy. Go to university (if you can afford it) and unless you study a 'proper' subject you're derided for being a time waster. You're not meant to be learning, you're meant to be preparing yourself for the world of work. I mean who wants to learn in this day and age? Get out and start sweeping the streets. The only university you need to go to is the University of Life. It may all seem pretty trivial, but piled one on top of another I can see why "da yoot" are fucked off. And before anyone starts this isn't a justification, merely an attempt to understand why this has happened.

As Stevie said a while back, potentially the first player to get booed at his own testimonial. Isnt be becoming a bit of cult figure now? Or is that just me? Not just you Painfully average but I can't help but like the bloke. Gets far too much abuse from the stands.

Shut up you dickhead. It's a genuine question. You're sterotyping them as lazy cunts who contribute fuck all to society. So, a yes or no. I said not all blacks are like this but in South London you need to spend time there to experience what it's like. Of course not all blacks are bad people the same as not all white people are. I've asked a question regarding the ethnicity of these rioters, can you answer it, ignore it, or continue to deliberately misconstrue it? I don't think that anyone will deny that the majority of people involved in the riots were black, however, it is not an exclusively black problem. What needs to be analysed here are the factors that led to the rioting in these specific areas. The riots were caused by circumstance rather than race. Unless you're saying that blacks are predisposed to violence and theft? They would be if they weren't so bloody lazy

As a resident I can assure you that's nowt out of the ordinary for Washington.

Christ on a vespa, are we really dividing this down racial lines? You just need to glance at the news coverage to see that it's not just black or white or asian kids acting the cunt. It's like It's a Small World on heroin. It's 80% black people in London and Birmingham. Decorate how you will but that is a fact. I implore you to spend a few months living in South London, I've probably lived two years of my life when you add it all up in those area's and the majority of black people there are lazy fuckin cunts. I'm not saying ALL black people are because they're not, but lets see if your attitude towards this situation and them changes. Very easy to hypothesise without first hand experience of these people. South London and North London has the worst people on these islands, and Sammy's quality story, goes in some way to explaining why. See the African blacks in London, they hate Afro Caribbean blacks, because they're fuck all like them, and they see the yardie types as getting blacks a bad name. The black London sub-culture which exists now is one of the worst aspects of immigration in my view. You even have fucking white kids pretending to be black, talking like they're black, like I say it's alright sat in South Shields, nodding your head at racial equality people on newsnight talking shite, but when you've been in the front line, and I have, it will educate you somewhat. You're trivilising the entire event by turning it into a ridiculous debate about race when it's kids acting like twats. Your last post just lost you any credibility you had left. You're a half step away from starting on a rant about how this would never have happened if the BNP were in power. You're a good lad Stevie, but you don't half talk some shite at times like this

Christ on a vespa, are we really dividing this down racial lines? You just need to glance at the news coverage to see that it's not just black or white or asian kids acting the cunt. It's like It's a Small World on heroin.

I worry this will get overlooked as the general public get more and more fed up with the riots. I'm all for harsh, short term solutions so long as we can get round to addressing why the 'yoof' have decided to go feral on us all of a sudden.

I had it out with him over Twitter about that shite. I basically decided he was a joke when he claimed that Shepherd is still widely loved on Tyneside.

Well this is fucking shite.

Who gave this fuckwit a login?

I think maybe they aren't telling him what to say, just he's shit scared of upsetting them. He's probably been told to rein it in after Neil Farringdon got the Sunday Sun banned.

I've seen him contradict himself in the same issue of the Ronny before.

He's got more skill in his foreskin than Routledge has ever had in his whole body. What I like about him is he never panics when he's crowded, also at 19 he's won a title medal at Bordeaux winning the French league. So did David Bellion. Hardly the mark of a class player.

He's wank. Fast, but wank. It would've made more sense to keep Routledge if we go for Obertan.

I recall reading on another website that Pardew was negotiating his contract with the club while Hughton was still in his job. I'm not going into the details but it was a very credible source. Pardew subsequently said the first he heard about the job was when Hughton was sacked and the club got in touch. Blatantly an absolute lie and proof, if any were needed, that the man has the morals of an alleycat, the heart of a weasel, and the truthfulness of Reginald Pryor. Golfmag on N-O You always hear of these tales after the event, but Golfmag was telling us weeks if not months before Hughton was sacked that Pardew was incoming.

NUFC have displayed all the signs of a club on the brink of meltdown this summer, and Pardew is going to get slaughtered if it all falls apart on the pitch. When ( not if) this happens , I can't wait to hear the spin from our Great Leaders, as to how Pardew is still the man to take us to " the next level". The man's a cunt, said so from day 1 and nowt has changed my mind. Totally agree. I'll never forgive him for being a sly cunt. I exclusively revealed in October he'd be taking over before the West Ham game, we won three in a row and they had to put it on hold, so he'll have been sat there watching us beat the mackems 5-1 knowing Hughton's days were numbered. Fair enough it's a job for him still a cunts trick. Never liked him, will never warm to him no matter how many PR courses he goes on to make himself come across well in press conferences. Coloccini needs to keep his missis away from club functions too that's aal I can say. Got more time for him than the other two buffoons though. Not his strong point it seems. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...rticle19476.ece

Barton has been silent today. Worrying. Maybe Derek and Mike have kidnapped him?

That KTD is a weapon of epic proportions tbf.