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Im doing it again! Same cause (The Evening Chronicle Sunshine fund) only this time I'm jumping out of a plane at 2 1/2 miles up and dropping at 120MPH. 20th Sept 2013 will see me hurtle to the ground and hopefully raise money for the fund who arrange equipment for kids with disabilities. Never done it before so should be interesting! I'll be sure to go to the toilet before I jump .... As ever, if you can spare a few quid I'd really appreciate it. I know times are not east but that goes for charities as well so if you can, please do! Cheers http://www.justgiving.com/CoolDesigns

Aye just echoing whats already said. Speak to your doctor, speak to your parents. While those are the biggest two steps you will take, they are also the two biggest barriers. Hopefully talking about it to both will take a big weight off you and set you on the road to recovery. Oh and I'll add, depression is hugely common and sadly still largely misunderstood. Your mind is bloody powerful and its scary what it can do as you've seen for yourself. But its not a dead end nor a downward spiral. Lots of help out there. Good luck

Got posters up in my gym for it. Not tried it though, think my lass was going to give it a go.

Just bought this album like, loving it!

I dont listen to as much new music as I should, stuck in the past and all that. Much of this year I've been getting into Band of skulls. The new Primal Scream album is worth a listen. Today though I grabbed this :

I've been listening to Laura Marling, canny like for chilling on a Sunday when the kids are out.

Im due an upgrade but Im waiting to see what happens with the 5S and iOS7.

I like tattoos as you might now. I'm very much each to their own and all that. That said, that's pretty horrid. I know it a cover up but it's ruined the look of her arse.

Tell me when you're making tiger Bread then I'l listen

Wor lass made me this, fucking lush! - Delia smith Hot & Sour Chicken Broth - http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/cuisine/asian/thai/hot-and-sour-thai-chicken-broth.html

Fried Breakfast - http://www.stusfood.com/food-and-health/105-there-are-how-many-calories-in-a-fried-english-breakfast That not a bad breakfast and thats 1126 cals

While I feel pessimistic, I've been here before and much worse. I dont enjoy it as much though which is odd.

600!! bloody hell Im on around 3500 a day, as you say Id pass out way before then! Just done a quick calc, my 10am snack yesterday was 706 cals That was small bowl of oats with milk, a banana, 25g almonds, 2 boiled eggs.

@Gloom Aye, I counted calories for a few days so I knew what I was eating. I dont now, but its still in my mind what I have to eat each day to reach my goal. Its like at the end of the day if I feel I havent ate enough fat Ill chuck down some boiled eggs or peanut butter. But when I was cutting I done a similar thing. Most meals were simply chicken breast or a steak then veggies (as green as possible) usually with garlic and oils and sometimes jalapenos. Basically cutting out starchy carbs and milk worked for me while cutting.

Hard to argue like tbf

Its a combination but Diet has a bigger effect on weight loss. Here is an easy way to think about it. 1hr weights session you might expend say 350 cals (although the body continues to use calories to repair to you have a longer lasting benefit) 1hr cardio session you might use 500 cals. So at best, and unrealistic for most, you might say if you exercise twice a day you might aim for 1000 cals used extra a day. However, cut out a bar of chocolate, bag of crisps and pie you have each day and thats the same calorific result. It is easier to drop calories per day through good nutrition choices than it is through exercise. The real trick? Do both If you want to lose weight and you are eating 3000 cals per day of shite, then eat 2000 cals per day of good food AND 500 cals every other day in the gym and watch the weight drop off. Bottom line, to lose weight you need to be in a negative calorific balance. However you dress it up with fad fancy diets and workouts, thats is the bottom line. For you, if your weight never changed being in the gym then you were simply eating a value of calories that equaled the calories you used.

What about the older gym generation? This isnt a new fad you know

Down to personal taste surely? Olives, brilliant source of good fats, fucking rank Unhealthy food isnt really black and white though, it just need to be taken in to account.

Totally agree Gemmill I eat well. I eat steak, cheese & curry but its just not every day any more. Chez is right in thats its about balance. Trouble is most want to have their cake and eat it (excuse the pun). I know the calories I eat roughly but I have the knowledge to do so, its a hobby almost. But because I do that and enjoy the gym doesnt mean I do fuck all else. Thankfully my wife is an excellent cook and recently trained as a personal trainer, so she looks in to cooking healthy meals for us and is brilliant at it. I've had curries I'd never have thought of eating and she is making a beef stew tonight. Everything fresh with meat, veg and herbs. Like Gemmill says, eating healthy doesnt have to be salad and crated carrot (which on its own wouldnt be that healthy

Its all about find a balance isnt it. I'd rather 80 years filled with great joy My kids are 3+5 and I'm 41. So I hopefully have 15 or so years where I need to be active with them and having fun as I am now. That then makes me near 55. Then after a few years rest hopefully I'll start seeing grandkids. I certainly dont want to be early 60s and look like Im near 70 and struggling to keep up. I want to be thinking of retiring then and seeing more of the world and keep bashing up hills etc AND spending time with grand kids but not just stuck in a chair.

You need to think about that in greater depth

Sorry to hear that fella. I agree in that I think when you start getting >40 you start to realise you're not invincible and you need to start looking after yourself a bit. I have a fucked knee and after months of swimming in circles through the NHS getting bounced from pillar to post I was eventually told "you're just getting old"

I watch these "Help a fat bloke / lass get healthy" programs. There is a real valid point that the bloke keeps making. - Health - Job - Social Life - House - Holidays - Friends Which of those is the most important? It should be Health over and above anything else. Its the one thing that defines your mortality and without it, the other things on the list are irrelevant. Oh, and I eat 15-20g of Seeds and 50-75g of nuts every day