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how do I replace the chip on my mboard, so the comp can recognise more modern sata drives.

 

atmo it only sees sata 1 hard drives. anything else freezes it up. or maybe its the hdd size..... sata 2 drives tend to be 200gig+

 

I know theres a limitation on hdd size for older systems.

 

Think the mboard was made 2002? or so.

 

Dont think the company supported the board past 2005, so tehre isnt a software solution to his eg bios update.

 

How do i know which bios chips are compatible, with the board? never tried this stunt before.

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There is a limit yes, you can get a bios upgrade for most motherboards (flashes the firmware on the chip to recognise higher capacity drives) 2tb is prob the limit size if you can get a firmware update though.

 

you don't buy a "bios chip" it'd mean even if you did somehow get some sort of updated chip (you can't) you'd have to go desoldering and resoldering the board for a start i'm going guess by these questions this is beyond you anyway (no offence)

 

if you can't find a bios update and don't want to upgrade the mobo (and no doubt ram and cpu as well because of that) if you have a free pci-e slot you can get something like this instead

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CC-004-SR&groupid=701&catid=49&subcat=424

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hmm i am sure ive seen mboards that have bios chips you can pull out.

 

let me get around to chking this board....tommmorw, or when i remeber )

 

afraid the board has only PCI slots ...its from 2002/3. will link model and manufac site wheni find it...

 

is reflashing the bios and upgrading firmware the same thing? never tried updating firmware before....that can be done on other gear too?

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hmm i am sure ive seen mboards that have bios chips you can pull out.

 

let me get around to chking this board....tommmorw, or when i remeber )

 

afraid the board has only PCI slots ...its from 2002/3. will link model and manufac site wheni find it...

 

is reflashing the bios and upgrading firmware the same thing? never tried updating firmware before....that can be done on other gear too?

 

there is and dual bios, again good luck buying a chip for it.

 

yeah flashing the bios is the same as say upgrading firmware on your phone/ipod, it permanently writes the software to the chip

 

you're mobo is 12 years old... trying to get it to support newer drives will be tough, and it'll be bottle necked anyway, even the chances of an update to support the new sizes will be slim imo.

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http://www.biostar-usa.com/ideqdetails.asp?model=ideq+210v

 

http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdownloads.asp?model=IDEQ%20210V

 

cant see any relevant bios updates.

 

this is a differnt mboard from biostar, but you can see the bios chip has some sort of plug in thingy, its behind the 3 blue pci slots. same type on my mboard.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Biostar-K8M800-M7A-VER-1-0-Socket-754-Motherboard-With-BP-/371098659437?pt=UK_Computing_LaptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA&hash=item5667342a6d

 

perhaps i should ask these folks?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIOS-Chip-BIOSTAR-K8M800-Micro-AM2-/260804376938?pt=US_Motherboard_Components&hash=item3cb926f96a

 

might be less hassle to buy second hand biostar system that at least takes ddr2 ram ?> that should have sata2 controller....or have later pci slots?

 

lol atmo i boot this pc from an ide drive and run windows xp

 

I aslo edit a magazine....The Dyno Tymes....

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the "plugin" thingys or the pins are, pins for the switches on your case (power on, reset, the hd led, power led, case fans), usb headers for the usb ports on your case or a bracket you can put in the pci slot, line in audio, digital out, etc

 

it's not a matter of unplugging the bios chip and plugging the new one in, it's soldered, will need desoldered, resoldered and it's far far from easy, and it's entirely unlikely you even have a decent enough soldering iron to do any of the desoldering even if you had the skill to do it, i sure as fuck wouldn't.

 

 

and no, you're mobo is too old, it was end of life by time the big drives emerged, so they didn't bring out any relevant updates that would help you, some premium manuf might do it from time to time, biostar will not be one of them.

 

spend or hold off and save up a couple hundred quid and by yourself a ddr3 base unit or something, buying a £30 ddr2 mobo is insane (ddr2 will cost you as much if not more than 3x the size in ddr3)

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8800Gt was a good card ( about 8 years ago easily) i had one i used it to death, i've had 3 cards since (one being a £500 flagship effort that lasted me years)

 

8800GT doesn't have the capabilities for new games either, you'd be better buying a mid range modern card.

Power aside the heat generated off a lot of cards are going chin you in a shuttle if you do try put them under any load as well, and some simply won't fit because they'll be too long.

 

If you bought this for gaming you've wasted your cash

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I didnt buy it for gaming.

 

Am involved in an online rpg, which has dated gfx....still 3d tho.

 

http://www.project1999.com/

 

tbh am not sure wot differnce it makes , but tryiong to get card that runs min of dx10....dx11 would be ubber but not possible i dont think.

 

atmo game runs on dx9c.

 

am harking back to the pleasure of my teenage years, of squeezing the last remnants of a gigantic zit from my face.....pointless, but it feels great.

 

an eg of the graphics....

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/level1undercon

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managed to get a 300w shuttle psu off ebay for 10 quid. second hand though so bit gamble...doubt its been hammerd though, folk who make gaming rigs or overclock dont buy shuttles pcs!

 

anyway at least i have back up if the 250w blows up.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4GB-2x2GB-CM2X2048-6400C5-Corsair-XMS2-6400U-DDR2-Gaming-Ram/161390971258

 

is this backwardly compatible? will it work on the motherboard i have, even at around 700mhz? (an overclocked 667)

 

am guessing the p4 cpu is running at 4oomhz x2. or should i only buy ddr 2 ram that runs at 800mhz......

 

 

OOPS! got links wrong way around.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corsair-XMS2-4GB-2-x-2GB-PC2-8500-1066MHz-DDR2-CM2X2048-8500C7/181491651191

 

assume this would work, but only run at 800mhz?

 

would have to change the cpu to get beyond the 800 limit? which might generate extra heat?

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