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Lord above. I came on to have a laugh about Pardew leaving, decided to have a quick scroll through and found this. Life doesn't half have a habit of kicking you in the nuts sometimes. I only met him once in The Trent, and he seemed a good lad. However little I knew him, he remains part of my life in a way. Very, very sad news.
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LeazesMag, are you a massive supporter of Derek Llambias? Why do you keep making posts that portray him as a footballing genius?
Cabaye + Tiote for £8m = ridiculously good business. You are saying the manager has no say in these matters, therefore Llambias created our best central midfield in a generation for just a bit more than the cost of Craig Gardner.
I had you down as a critic of the board tbh.
I'd love to know who Carr reports to first. Is it to Pardew or Llambias(Ashley)? Who gives Carr his brief?
You could well be right that Parsnip calls the tune about players, but given the financial parameters that NUFC are now working to, the argument can be made that Llambias, and not Pardew, gives Carr the brief.
Well its either one or the other i suppose.
You're right again, Chez. I surrender, as you're too good for me.
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Leazes, who on earth has this superiority complex?????
Your answer I know will be m-m (and possibly Gemmill, though I'm not certain of your disdain for him recently), but I simply cannot see it - in any way, shape or form.
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mediocre player playing for poor time goes to better team = plays better and 'shines' in better team.
mediocre player playing for better team goes to worse team = plays worse and is instantly 'spotlighted' as being 'shite'.
We've all seen this time and time again over the years with players. We only have to look 13 miles down the road to look at O'Shea and the orange-haired kid; both were playing for a magnificent footballing side where their 'faults' weren't exposed week in, week out. Now they are under the microscope - big time.
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Well as usual on here it's important to disentangle the pov from the poster. LM is saying something. Which a lot of people have also said; decisions at the club are dominated by financial considerations not footballing ones and that in this particular case the decision has nothing to do with Pardew.
I know I keep banging on about this but this is a perfect example of fitting events to a narrative. What should prick up the attention is that the 'event' doesn't neatly fit into the narrative. Which means the direct implications of Leazes's argument here is that Derek Llambias is a footballing genius (it's the only logical conclusion that can be drawn). Hence there is a problem. LM is not the only one who does this so I don't know why he is getting stick in this thread.
The facts of the matter are that a new deal for Jonas makes sense from both a footballing and financcial perspective. The extension to the contract doesn't mean that he will play for us until 2015. It does however mean there won't be any pressure to sell him next season when his contract position would make a bid for the player attractive. This signals that the club medics and fitness experts (and me too) clearly see Jonas as retaining his athleticism later than players like Nolan and Barton who let's face it were running out of it at 28. Ther are clear and specific reasons to do this and none of them relate to the storyline people try to impose on events. Not this time anyway.
You can't do logical extension with Leazes, it's a waste of time. And while you're at pains to maintain the diplomacy with him, a blind man on a galloping horse can see why he gets stick with all due respect.
To state my position clearly, for me the narrative that every deal is done with a view solely to sell-on profit is a nonsense and a completely emotion driven response to losing players we're attached to. There are numerous examples to discredit it; Barton on a free, Nolan, Enrique (the worst example of all for me as it happens...the expense of replacing him with a player at more or less identical cost not to mention the risk inherent in losing an established performer for an unproven one). Every contract term that's offered will be done with a view to getting the best fee if it comes to sale, but that's true of every contract that's ever been drafted post-Bosman. It doesn't automatically follow we'll sell just because we've got them on a longer deal though.
The narrative that I subscribe to (I think I'm possibly alone in it in fact) is that players will simply be shipped unless they conform to the new wage structure and that that will be a decision taken entirely independent of footballing reasons in each case. Thus if we got rid of Colo it'll not be principally because we wanted to get a transfer windfall out of him, it'll be because under no circumstances could the club and players remuneration aspirations be reconciled. That for me will have been the main issue with Enrique. He'll have wanted improved terms because he'd had a couple of good seasons and it's normal for a player to be able to expect that will be forthcoming on renewal provided they're in demand with at least one other club, but to do so would have put him appreciably higher than Tiote, which then sets a precedent for every incoming and current players wage negotiations.
It's wage pressure that will mean players leave and everyone at the club will be very clearly on notice about that and geared to dealing with the best exit for the club. That's not the same thing as saying that every player is bought and signed up to terms solely with a view to a transfer profit however, and I distance myself from that narrative at all times because the evidence is against it.
I also subscribe to the narrative that player transfer fee surpluses won't necessarily get put back into the team. At the same time, I don't say things as naive as 'every penny in should clearly be mirrored in transfer fees paid out'. However I think the continued refusal to buy a striker with recent surplus funds was more prejudicial than prudent.
Even the Bert Luque one?? And the Owen one?? To me, they were both cases of 'get him in', regardless of any future deals.
Sorry, yes that was oversimplifying things to a degree. But to address it to those examples, what I mean is if you pay the sort of transfer fees we paid for those players, you don't sign them to a two month contract-the fee reflects the fact you've 'got' them for a certain amount of time, to do with as you see fit during that period, depending on prevailing circumstances.
Which also means you're goosed if your club is in disarray, they've got no respect for you, you pay them too much and nobody else wants to take them off your hands at the wages you're paying them.
Agreed. I was thinking that yesterday following the Tevez (and most Man City players in general) business.
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LeazesMag, are you a massive supporter of Derek Llambias? Why do you keep making posts that portray him as a footballing genius?
Cabaye + Tiote for £8m = ridiculously good business. You are saying the manager has no say in these matters, therefore Llambias created our best central midfield in a generation for just a bit more than the cost of Craig Gardner.
I had you down as a critic of the board tbh.
I'd love to know who Carr reports to first. Is it to Pardew or Llambias(Ashley)? Who gives Carr his brief?
You could well be right that Parsnip calls the tune about players, but given the financial parameters that NUFC are now working to, the argument can be made that Llambias, and not Pardew, gives Carr the brief.
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Well as usual on here it's important to disentangle the pov from the poster. LM is saying something. Which a lot of people have also said; decisions at the club are dominated by financial considerations not footballing ones and that in this particular case the decision has nothing to do with Pardew.
I know I keep banging on about this but this is a perfect example of fitting events to a narrative. What should prick up the attention is that the 'event' doesn't neatly fit into the narrative. Which means the direct implications of Leazes's argument here is that Derek Llambias is a footballing genius (it's the only logical conclusion that can be drawn). Hence there is a problem. LM is not the only one who does this so I don't know why he is getting stick in this thread.
The facts of the matter are that a new deal for Jonas makes sense from both a footballing and financcial perspective. The extension to the contract doesn't mean that he will play for us until 2015. It does however mean there won't be any pressure to sell him next season when his contract position would make a bid for the player attractive. This signals that the club medics and fitness experts (and me too) clearly see Jonas as retaining his athleticism later than players like Nolan and Barton who let's face it were running out of it at 28. Ther are clear and specific reasons to do this and none of them relate to the storyline people try to impose on events. Not this time anyway.
You can't do logical extension with Leazes, it's a waste of time. And while you're at pains to maintain the diplomacy with him, a blind man on a galloping horse can see why he gets stick with all due respect.
To state my position clearly, for me the narrative that every deal is done with a view solely to sell-on profit is a nonsense and a completely emotion driven response to losing players we're attached to. There are numerous examples to discredit it; Barton on a free, Nolan, Enrique (the worst example of all for me as it happens...the expense of replacing him with a player at more or less identical cost not to mention the risk inherent in losing an established performer for an unproven one). Every contract term that's offered will be done with a view to getting the best fee if it comes to sale, but that's true of every contract that's ever been drafted post-Bosman. It doesn't automatically follow we'll sell just because we've got them on a longer deal though.
The narrative that I subscribe to (I think I'm possibly alone in it in fact) is that players will simply be shipped unless they conform to the new wage structure and that that will be a decision taken entirely independent of footballing reasons in each case. Thus if we got rid of Colo it'll not be principally because we wanted to get a transfer windfall out of him, it'll be because under no circumstances could the club and players remuneration aspirations be reconciled. That for me will have been the main issue with Enrique. He'll have wanted improved terms because he'd had a couple of good seasons and it's normal for a player to be able to expect that will be forthcoming on renewal provided they're in demand with at least one other club, but to do so would have put him appreciably higher than Tiote, which then sets a precedent for every incoming and current players wage negotiations.
It's wage pressure that will mean players leave and everyone at the club will be very clearly on notice about that and geared to dealing with the best exit for the club. That's not the same thing as saying that every player is bought and signed up to terms solely with a view to a transfer profit however, and I distance myself from that narrative at all times because the evidence is against it.
I also subscribe to the narrative that player transfer fee surpluses won't necessarily get put back into the team. At the same time, I don't say things as naive as 'every penny in should clearly be mirrored in transfer fees paid out'. However I think the continued refusal to buy a striker with recent surplus funds was more prejudicial than prudent.
Even the Bert Luque one?? And the Owen one?? To me, they were both cases of 'get him in', regardless of any future deals.
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Why have the dodgy transvestites like that always got shite fashion sense?
Fish does like to sport a cravat with his blazer.
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Part of my mates nippers bday present
They'd look lush with Sports Direct on them.
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Had free cinema ticket voucher thingies with an expiry date of 30 September so we toddled along to see Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy tonight, as it was the best thing on offer at Vue Croydon
(we were sorely tempted by the remastered Jurassic Park, mind you). Mine's a similar reaction to many expressed on the previous page - generally liked it, thought the pacing and visuals were interesting and there were some nice touches. It did feel like they were trying to cram in a bit too much at times, but I suppose fans of the book/TV series would have complained if there'd been too much plot tweaking. Could have waited for DVD really, but not at all bad as reasons for visiting Croydon go.
Went to see TTSS on Monday. Alec Guiness is alive and well, following Oldman's performance.
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Cath, aye, teachers do 70h a week, BOLLOCKS! My sister-in-law tried to tell me this last week when I popped over to see my Nephew. It was 6pm and she couldnt work out when I questioned "Why are you not working now?"
I was being ironic man. I'm the first one to roll my eyes when I hear how it's been a 'long half-term'
Shurrup man!
I do 12-hour shifts man. I'm the only one who plays for sympathy round here
Crisis Team does 7am-9pm
Proper killer, but worth the 4 days off a weekAm I missing something???
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Although she'll never read this, I will tell you all something.
I was away from home the whole of 1990. My son was fairly new and, due to a lot of ear problems, hardly slept one night throughout that time. Almost each and every night he would cry and cry due to the pain/ache. Mrs hips dealt with it all and hardly moaned once to me. Which reminds me, I need her to iron a shirt.....
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Went to see it yesterday. Interesting stuff, but his work doesn't really get my pulse racing.
Had a tootle down to The Laing as well. Some nice 18th & 19th C paintings. They also had some modern stuff on exhibition too. Yeah, blocks of wood stacked around; art? Yes, but total and utter shit in my opinion.
I see another miner was killed the other day (not to mention the hundreds (?) that get killed across the world which we never hear about). Sad stuff. Thank fuck I don't make my living in that hell hole.
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Aye, you do get mine. All people working in your profession do.
My friends gf is a trainee Doc and she is working at Bradford Royal as a pediatrician doc. She does easily 14h shifts and its not a job where you can turn around and say "Sorry, its Xh Im off now!"
Workshy layabouts, the lot of 'em.
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Wacky, go in to see the headmistress next week. Say your piece and leave it at that.
It's a bad tale but hopefully lessons will be learned after you have given them a piece of your mind.
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"A bit more sense" you mean ludicrous negativity refusing to accept any positivity because Mike Ashley owns the club. Leazes, you really aren't intelligent enough to take on this debate, although it has never stopped you before.
Arsenal will, shockingly finish in the top 10. They are still one of the better teams in the league, we have also struggled in the past against the likes of Fulham and Blackburn so it would take the most 'head up your arse, super negative' twat to try and downplay a good start to the season.
The fortune teller in me predicts a reply that doesn't really have anything to do with what I just posted..
I've been telling you for over 5 years now that it would be difficult to replace the owners idiots such as yourself despised, would be difficult to match. And you have disagreed right from day 1, along with lots of others. Please tell me when this is going to actually happen ?
So, until somebody else actually does it, please refrain from talking about such things as "a bit more sense", unless its impossible for you
There are 32 games to go. We have not played any good team yet, other than Arsenal who are themselves in a crisis when judged on their own high standards over the past 15 years.
Your comments are exactly the sort of naive rubbish that has been posted by people like yourself on these message boards for many years now. It is crystal clear that you are as big an idiot as you have always been and have learned absolutely nothing from experience.
The fortune teller in me predicts a reply that doesn't really have anything to do with what I just postedLet's see what you've won!
It's a never ending loop, if I could be arsed I would reply asking him to find something from me saying any of that, he would then say something like "well maybe you didn't but plenty of people did" then mention something about N-O.
The man is a moron who seems to be stuck in a personal groundhog day.
GroundhogMag
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Give it a rest Jonny one note.
go with your convictions man, go on, make a judgement and stand by it
About what...what is it you're so needy about you want me to make a prediction on? Truly bizarre behaviour of late, even by your usual lows.
Who's gonna win X Factor?
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Looking at tonight's menu, I guess I will be donning my Munchen shirt and watching them. I was hoping there'd be a Championship game on but alas no.
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Australian with a lisp:
"My name's Perthy and I'm from Perth"
Well it made me chuckle, ya fuckers
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I honestly thought they would get beat.
Me too, but up 'til now the Tinker Man has the upper hand.
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Surprised tbh, what sort of money was he on, does anybody know? If it wasn't in excess of/was roughly on a par with Tiote's improved deal it would make sense-I'd just assumed he'd be on more.
You can see how his fitness record and defensive contribution would lead to Pardew make a strong case for his retention.
Pardew wanted to keep Carroll and Enrique too.
No shit Sherlock.
clueless
He's agreeing with you
He's [LM] referring to the previous postl. And, it has to be said, many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many posts previous to that *yawn*
How many times do you need to be told?
Clueless
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CSKA 0 - 2 Inter.
The thing is, this game is being played at an astronomically fast pace. Phew!!!
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J69 confirms he's a no life wanker with no friends. Fucking hell, Wacky, just fucking hell!!
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I'd love if Colo followed suit.
Whilst the new contract for Jonas is not earthshattering news (it's good, but not earthshatteringly so), one thing it does do is stem the tide of 'everybody out', which seems to have been the call recently.
If they have been working on this new contract for Jonas then shirley they will have been talking to Colo? Him signing a new contract would be mega kudos for the fat bloke and I would give him the credit he [rightly] would deserve for it. LardAsh, it's over to you......
Alan Pardew - Poltroon sacked by a forrin team
in Newcastle Forum
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Can I please be the first to say adios, Alan, and thanks for all your hard work. Nah, only joking. FUCK OFF YOU CHARLATAN TWAT.