Warlord

What bit is edgy, opposing militant Islamism and/or supporting basic human rights?

Ah so that's the argument, there's other clubs owned by dodgy foreigners so this is ok? It's a terrible argument which is why journalists are laughing about it, not because they hate Newcastle. Buying products from Amazon, watching F1 or a boxing fight in Saudi is in no way comparable to actually wanting, yes wanting your club to be owned by the Saudi Royal Prince and family. Great example for young kids growing as fans, researching the roots of their club and finding out they are owned directly by a family that dismembers journalists and murders entire populations for political gain. It's utterly embarrassing and this argument your using regarding Saudi money here there and everywhere is pathetic, it doesn't come close to this situation. If it happens, there's not much fans can do about it, but actively supporting it, making excuses for it and even trying to downplay the significance is a terrible look. Can someone explain why they think the premier league should pass them under 'fit and proper' that isn't "But what about PSG"

They are immoral based on western cultural norms? No, they are hideously immoral full stop, we have a universal understanding of basic human rights...like not persecuting gay people or treating women as a sub species. The fact you've had to phrase that so tactically says a lot. It's not difficult, if you made a scale of how disgusting these people are, the Saudi Royal family would score far higher than Mike Ashley. How are you meant to protest against the Saudi genocide as Yemen as a Newcastle fan with the prince as your owner? It's a complete embarrassment which why the thing to do is protest the sale and not show support to it.

Don't get too excited Tommy

No it isn't, no matter how much you kid your self. Responsibility to effect something does not define moral stance. I have the same opinion on the Saudi's regardless of what the Government does and so should you. Your responsibility is being logically consistent, which would be that you find this group completely immoral. If you agree with that, you look like a bit of an idiot complaining about Journalists and should admit that it's an awful association for the club to have. Looking at the positives to being owned by a royal family that inflicts genocide on millions, stones gay people to death and suppresses women is a complete cop out. The positive is completely discarding morals, clearly.

You're conflating multiple different issues to try and justify this, it's embarrassing for the club for and should be an ethical problem for any none firestick fan. The fact the current Tory Government wont stand up to this family is no justification for getting directly in bed for them. The fact you disagree with the Government's relationship with Saudi says a lot doesn't it? Ethically it's pretty simple, we are going to be owned by a rotten individual who makes Mike Ashley look like a saint. If you are ignorant of all of this anyway and 'dont care about politics' then whatever but if you are someone who finds the Saudi family disgusting, condems their genocide in Yemen, the assassinations, treatment of women, gays etc then you should be disgusted at this and not at all impressed that the clubs history is now intertwined with the Saudi family. We are meant to celebrate arm in arm with people like that who you would otherwise find abhorrent? You can just look the other way when its people like this. At the very least, all those who were vocal criticizing Ashley's ethics with stuff like the price hike need to buckle themselves in for a long ride, unless you are a massive hypocrite you should be seething about some of the stuff this lot get up to. It's dark days and deeply embarassing.