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Optimistic Nut

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  1. A year old article in the Chronicle? Well that's me convinced. :icon_lol: Can't believe anyone still believes a word Ashley has said or that people are effectively still defending him. Worse than Mackems tbh.


    Give over man. :icon_lol:


    It's funny cos i said the same thing over on N-O yesterday.


    Great minds....


    I love how being sceptical or against a potential new investor makes you "pro Ashley" and "worse than a Mackem". I remember seeing a snippet from the NUST a few months back saying they were a bit sceptical about Barry Moat's credentials. Does this make them pro-Ashley? Bollocks man.

  2. It's more a criticism of the NUST than defending Ashley. Like I say, I want him out, and agree with the idea in principle, but they need better people running it without pathetic little digs like that and using "hearsay".

  3. Even if it turns out Ashley is somehow taking £7m from the club a month, which I still don't believe, I'd love to know how that's "profit" after the amount he's put into easing the debts.


    how much is that again?




    When Ashley bought the club in May 2007 he paid around £134 million to former chairmen Sir John Hall, Freddie Shepherd and other significant shareholders, before paying off £100 million of debt laid on the club by these previous regimes.


    Should Ashley decide to sell he is likely to have to be flexible. His investment in the club includes an interest-free loan of £100 million, repayable on demand. Any new owner will want the loan written off or deferred until Premier League status is regained.
  4. Of course he'll need it. Just as every single owner/board member/chairman up and down the country does, and I'm sure he knows this and is prepared for it. Would have been naive for anybody to start something of this scale and not expect criticism or scepticism, and after reading Peasepud's posts on here over the years I'm sure he's ready for it.

  5. "the other side of the argument (ie the club) make statements of way worse than this each day yet dont get the kind of ridicule the Trust does"


    Give over, course it does. Some of the statements Ashley & Llambias have put out on the official site or newspapers have bordered the ridiculous and have been roundly slated. The NUST are putting themselves in a position where they want to take their places in running the club, so are obviously going to come under scrutiny and criticism if they come out with things like that, or does the "We've put a lot of hard work and are at least trying to do something" line we keep hearing make you exempt from that?

  6. I think the idea in principle is brilliant. Would be idealistic and fantastic to think something like this could happen. Something of this scale though would be hard work even if I had confidence in the people in charge of it knowing what they were doing, nevermind a bunch of people who seem to be shooting themselves in the foot with every statement they make.


    Think it's very misleading releasing an e-mail saying Ashley is making £7m a month. That could very easily encourage people who don't know much about finance or whatever to pump in £100s or even £1000s because they've got this, "anyone but Ashley" mentality, and think they'd quite easily even see a return on their investment thinking they could be a part of this £7m profit, or would I be too cynical in thinking that this is the aim?

  7. Who would you like? Sheard? Moat? after all theres a long list waiting to take his place.


    These "clowns" are the only people who have come up with a credible purchase plan, if these "clowns" take over then they'll be sat next to you at the game, serving you in the pub, sorting out your car insurance and possibly saving your life should you ever need it.


    These "clowns" are me, him, the bloke next door and the family across the road.


    These "clowns" run your local, own your favourite restaurants, drink with you down the pub and sort out your tax returns.


    These "clowns" are the same as you, only difference is these "clowns" have the bottle to stand up and have a go, (that and the fact that these "clowns" had the sense to see ages ago that the real clowns were running this club into the ground, you didnt).



    I'm talking about the "clowns" running the show that come out with drivel saying, "we're not wanting to get into a slanging match with Ashley but...." and then come out and release statements with rubbish like we're making £7m profit a month.

  8. This happens every transfer window - how many times has this cunt come out and said the same shite now - he isn't good enough for arsenal and I doubt psg could afford his wages(may be wrong with the euro and that now like) he is a decent player who never quite fulfilled the potential he displayed as a youngster but its not like he has some extraordinary talent - another laurent robert for me - too much gob - will leave and fade into insignificance


    Not half the player that Robert was for us.

    Your right there i was only making the comparison cos robert left after letting his gob go then pretty much vanished into the ether


    To be fair, Robert was 30 when he left, and with the odd exception, there's not many top-class wingers beyond that age. N'Zogbia is 22...I'd say Bernard's career would be a better comparison.

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