NJS

What a fucking life you've led MF

Are they still everyone's cup final?

I'd also say that more tory voters hold racist views and its a lot less likely to put them off voting for them. I know a lot of traditional working class labour voters tend towards racism but not as many as tory voters.

The whataboutery is justified when they are literally saying it makes him unfit to be pm when no such test was/is applied to May or Johnson.

As I've said before, I'm sure there were plenty of anti-semites in the left wing movement as a result of over-sympathy for Palestinians but its just the lack of action that has given the opportunity for attackers. As Ewerk said, more weak leadership than real prejudice.

Normal service resumed after beating two shit teams.

He is a complete fanny like.

This time out last time the cunts were on 47% so I don't think it's over. Possibly still need a bit of a collapse a collapse in the lib dem vote but then again if that doesn't happen they may cut in to the tory total. I think all this late registration might be a factor - hopefully some surprise scalps like Duncan Smith or even Johnson himself. I think they'll get a working smallish majority but will struggle to last 5 years in the face of brexit fallout. Then a slightly toned down Labour manifesto -(I have no problem with any of the policies in this one but its too much at once) with a better leader will be a bigger challenge in 3 or 4 years time.

I think they've basically locked down the leave voters - especially those morons who think it will all be over soon - so don't need to do much else.

Just like how Savile's protectorate leaked.

Subtle difference between "you're a liar" and "that's a lie" - they should exploit it.

Saw a clip of the bloke saying 80k wasn't even top 50%. I've heard this attitude a lot at work from thick cunts who think just because they know quite a few people who earn a lot more than that and them that that means they're somehow on "middle income" - literally using that phrase. It's almost as common as a complete denial that banking caused the 08 crash and not overspending - they are that stupid.

No but I think place names should be left in their native language rather than translated into English - I'd have no problem calling Germany Deutschland etc, etc.

Excuse my ignorance but what's wrong with saying Eire?

I started following Baddiel because I admire his take on the anti-semitism issue but I do disagree with him on certain aspects - including this.

Gloom will be along to tell us it's standard procedure... (Not calling him a tory, just a defender of the indefensible)

It brings up a point about whether a party leader is a sort of dictator once elected or the figurehead of a mass democratic movement. I prefer the latter but accept that people want an air of authority as that's what they're used to which is where Corbyn falls down. I think a leader should be able to say "my personal position is x but the party's conference decided position is y" and be able to pull it off - as long as they argue for y.

You could add that they built a statue to a man who was born and lived his entire life on Tyneside and captained Newcastle United with distinction.

Well it also goes back to him being sacked by Michael Howard for blatantly lying about his affairs and children thereof.

Alternatively I'm surprised we haven seen "Corbyn shoots blanks" headlines.

I've read this morning that countries with state providers have coverage in the 90%s (top countries probably) while the UK is 10% - that's Thatchers legacy. Supposedly competition should have worked its magic and provided it but surprisingly it didn't. I think the benefits would be huge - more home working with saved commuting costs being a major one.

Most things poll well for nationalisation - I think this would as well - those with a negative view of it tend to be people who have a bug bear about the 70s and perceived issues - probably pensioners who'll vote tory anyway. I think an argument about who owns services which benefit everyone is a good one to have - we shouldn't be frightened by dogma from 35/40 years ago when people can see utter failures like the probation service as examples of going too far. Maybe making it free is a stretch as then you could argue the same for other utilities but I think aiming for a reasonable cost would be fine.

The past three years have been defined by the tory red lines though - a more compromising set would invite a more reasonable deal.

One of thatchers greatest crimes was preventing BT from getting into cable to sweeten the pot for the city. Set the country back years at the altar of privatisation and capitalism. They could just nationalise openreach.

I've said before - and I think its true even if its true that Corbyn personally is a staunch leaver - that there's nothing wrong with trying to appeal to both sides - there should be plenty of middle ground between "they're traitors" and "they're thick racists". However I'm not sure there's any evidence that that appeal is working so as Ewerk said maybe it is time for a "we respect your view but you're wrong". Swinson was asked the other day how she could encompass leavers if she could actually revoke and she gave no answer whatsoever - just like May and the rest of the tories maintaining that actually getting out would "heal the rift" and other such bollocks. .