wolfy

Calm down FFS. You really do go over the top don't you. Full blown mental illness. hahahahaha. I would imagine there are many people that would have seen the second tower explode and wondered what happened. They didn;t see a plane, even though they were watching the towers at that point, so it's easy to implant the plane theory into their psyche. If you think otherwise, then you do not know how humans can be manipulated into believing something which they could swear never happened. Tell a lie often enough and people will eventually believe it.

I knew it wouldn't be long before someone used emotion. If you want to discuss it, discuss it, if you want to use emotion and start saying I'm disrespecting those who lost their lives, then don't bother as I'll ignore the post.It's up to you.

I could say the same about you.

I think we can leave Hitler out of this.

Is rush hour in the air in Manhatten?

Eye witnesses to what? An explosion up in the sky above them? How many people will have been looking up at the top of the towers? Many will have heard the explosions and a small proportion will have seen them explode. If people on the street see a building explode and see no plane, then news reporters are immediately on the street saying it was a plane and spreading the word it was a plane, it's gonna be accepted even if it's accepted with a confused look my most people. Those who say, ' there was no9 planes, will be immediately discredited. It's easy to keep a few people in check as long as the masses are fooled.

I'm educated enough to distinguish between fact and blatant bullshit.

Why does there have to be hundreds of thousands of people in on it?

Not exactly did I?

It depends on what you are studying doesn't it. If you study architecture then it helps you in life then it's been taught as fact and indeed is fact. Studying the universe is theory based on what is brainwashed into people and made out as FACT. This is where people have to decide whether it's fact or fiction or simply just theory. Being told planes melted into towers like a knife through butter is told to us as FACT, yet it's FICTION. What people interpret out of anything is entirely down to how you view it .

They sold the plane theory.There was no planes hijacked. It was what was sold to us all as the basis of the scare tactics. The wtc building were rigged with explosives well in hand and detonated.

You aren't understanding are you.

Sorry about all this Renton, I realise now that I should of started a thread saying, this is what I think, because I've read some conspiracy forums me like and ermm, I think things happened and stuff and I really do, so there. Stop looking into things too deeply with me man, you will hurt your head. If you want to view those sites, go ahead...if not, don't. If it helps, I look at some sites and I just laugh and think it's outlandish but I cannot dismiss what is said because I don't have evidence to discount it. Look at the flat Earth society. Do I believe what they say?....no I don't. Not because I think they are idiots or anything, it's because I have my own...oops, I mean I have clues forum theories ( is this ok for you?) to go with. Just for the record , I type what's on my mind, I do not copy and paste anything from forums.

In life, you either learn things by reading, looking at things, listening to things and studying anything that gains you knowledge. Now these things can come in two forms.It can be fact or fiction and you have to decide that what you have read is fact or fiction. The only way you can come to that conclusion is to study the views of both sides and see which one makes more logical sense. I've done all that and found that we are constantly duped. That's it.

Oh I'll explain it. The plane theory was used because it served a far better agenda which covered for a number or problems, the main one being, how do we go to war for oil. What can you do to scare the population into wanting terrorists out the way from blighting your life. Possible solutions. A. Set off some bombs in the wtc and simply blame terrorists...possible but not very effective because it doesn't serve a big enough scare purpose for the majority to scream, 'go to war and sort them out' It also doesn't give a viable reason as to why towers would collapse due to a few bombs when every man and his dog knows that explosives would have to be planted strategically all over the towers, so bomb going off at the top wouldn't cut any ice with the public in terms of a full on tower collapse. How can we sell the war to the pubic whilst getting rid of the 2 white elephant towers that are full of asbestos , plus destroying the whole complex , including building 7 which housed the law enforcement agencies, including all the evidence on corrupt big companies under investigation. The public need to be scared shitless that their freedom is massively under threat and be made to feel naked against terrorists, knowing that their safe country isn't as safe as they thought. CUE the plane theory. Have terrorists hijack 4 planes, armed with craft knifes to show how feeble the home of the brave really are, including trained pilots (all of them) succumbing to a few terrorists, none of which resembled Hulk Hogan in strength and intimidation stakes, yet still managed to kill or incapacitate all pilots using craft knives and somehow take control of the plane, whilst the others stand in the aisle waving scary craft knives at passengers, none of who they would know and some of who could be special forces trained or ordinary brave men who aren't afraid to tackle someone stood there with a craft knife. Well this is the story told right? Anyway, the plane theory was a go because crashing planes into the towers would make it more believable for the towers to fall whilst scaring the public into believing that nothing is safe because the might of the american air force was rendered useless in stopping 3 of the 4 planes hitting their targets. Crash the planes, bring down the towers and full wtc complex, make the american public scared and outraged and wanting revenge, whilst the asbestos problem in a building that was a white elephant and losing money hand over fist was eliminated, leaving Larry Silverstein to collect his insurance billions from a policy that he'd only taken out months earlier with a clause in it that says it should pay out in the event of a terrorist attack on the buildings. Everyone's a winner, except Joe public.

You shouldn't get yourself wound up by what I believe. If you don't subscribe to anything I say, then you don' subscribe to it.And cut out the ' you've been exposed shit, it makes you look stupid man' hahahaha

I'm not getting dropped from any team, I'm my own team and my own person. I don't need to be liked and I don;t need back up. I just say what is on my mind.You on the other hand, need to be loved and cuddled and cannot stand alone because you would explode and start running down the street with your long slender knobbly kneed legs flapping about with your arms crying like a right long lad pussy.

I did. Well I took him for being intelligent....ok naive as fuck but intelligent.

This is a forum for discussion. You do not know me and I do not know you. So let's not start with ' you're a fraud shite' hahaha I have my beliefs and I go with many other beliefs of other people. I've never said I made up all of what I say just from my own head..it's you that peddles that. What you think of me, you can keep thinking because you're entitled to think. It won't have any bearing on what I say though.

Calm yourself down head on legs, you'll piss yourself.

Why would half of Manhattan be in on it.You've never studied it, I have. Oh and the fragments of the plane...come on man, I took you for being intelligent...don't spoil it.

You don't see the bigger agenda that required the plane theory that's why you can't grasp it.

Here's a little project for you to do, if you want to.Go and find any post on here since I started, where I said I was a free thinker. Secondly. Many people question things about many many things. You deciding that I question things based on conspiracy forums is about 20% right. What you fail to understand is, I question stuff based on what I see and also based on what I think and decide from there if I want to look further into it. If I decide I do, I look for likewise thinkers to see if what I'm thinking is anywhere near a possibility. I get that by typing in stuff like ...for instance: I might wonder how a 110 story building can collapse to the ground into it's own basement in short order, so I'll type into google, ' how come the wtc collapsed so fast' , stuff like that and it brings up clips and stuff, plus forums discussing it. Just like this Newcastle site. Somebody might want to see if there is any views on certain players that they think are good or bad for the club, so they type in Newcastle united views or something like that and guess what, it brings up forums and news on what they want. Can you understand that? I am a free thinker as I question many things immediately, before anything is posted on conspiracy forums, so I certainly don't get all my thoughts from conspiracy forums. Of course, there are things that I have never questioned that I've come across on forums like that and instead of me sitting back and thinking they are nutters...I actually read through it and make a decision as to whether things are possible or not. I can do that, yet many, like on here will not question it because the word conspiracy for people like you simply equates to loony, because you are ignorant of anything else and follow the trend of others that think anyone questioning official reports are tin foil hat wearing lunatics. That clues forum (in my opinion) happens to be the best forum out there in terms of well thought out analysis of events. Why don't you study it, it might open your eyes. If you feel silly doing it, just look at it and don;t tell anyone on here, then you won't feel intimidated. Anyway, about me being nice and now I'm a bastard....How do you work that out?

If you think a hollow aluminium tube with wings can melt into a steel building like a hot knife through butter then I can only deduce that you simply and absolutely refuse to question it because you are in fear of being labelled a tin foil hat nut job. OR You simply believe everything about 9/11 in spite of the fact that a massive proportion of the world questions certain events of that day. It's clear to see that 90% of any footage shown of that day is manipulated, including eye witnesses on the street. We live in a world where the TV is our very own hypnotic fix and we can (in the main) be coaxed into believing absolutely anything, no matter how outlandish it is. This red bull record serves a few agendas I think. The first agenda is to gauge just how dense the public are and how much silliness they will actually believe in spite of the fact that we have access to video play back mode where we can check the authenticity of many things shown to us, yet most people won;t even look...choosing, instead to accept anything shown to them. Years ago people could be forgiven for believing anything because they were shown stuff once and had no chance to scrutinise anything. People don't have that excuse today, yet they believe they are ultra intelligent, yet in reality we are easily conned to the point of ridiculous. I know for an absolute fact that many people reading what's said on here about anomalies with past events will be nodding their heads and saying, ' you know, there is questions about stuff like that.' The problem is, very few would dare to go with my thoughts because they actually fear ridicule on a forum, so rather than have their say on anomalies they see in stuff, they would rather stay out of it, or join in and follow the ridicule crowd, simply to fit in really. It happens on all forums... You can live your life trusting anything and everything if that's the way you are and many people do...until one day, someone or something betrays that trust and it's only then that some people actually wake up to the real world. It's good to question things, it gives you a sense or reality instead of the supposed reality that's beamed into your head via TV, tabloids or radio. Anyone can sit there and psycho analyse me all day long and call me stupid and all the rest of the garbage that fits into this criteria, yet I will be smiling as you post it because I know who is getting more frustrated.( a tip...it isn't me)

Nice speech kidder but I can hardly take someone like you serious, who plies their trade sitting with their feet up watching a flat screen telly on a painted brick wall, dressed in jim jams whilst supposedly tracking dots on a screen can I? Yes, you are being duped because it's easy to dupe people like you. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings but I find it best to be blunt...as you appear to be trying to be. Goodnight Fish and be comfortable in your jim jams, tracking of your vehicles you are responsible for. I just thank my lucky stars you aren't pushing tin. Night bud.