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  1. Qatar have certainly got the financial backing. Doubt they have the passion for the sport like some of the European countries have, that might be their only set back

    I donno like England v Brazil and Brazil v Argentina were only friendlies and sold out. They're really pushing the boat out financially and are pledging air conditioned streets, I don't know how that will work like.

     

    It's getting exciting, I'm desperate for us to get this.

     

    air conditioned streets and three hotels you are allowed to have a drink in. what about training facilities? accomodation? There are less people in Qatar than in Tyne and Wear + Northumberland, where are the crowds going to come from.

     

    the only way qatar are going to get / have got it is by throwing money around.

  2. I'm probably going to go against the grain here, but there's almost something sickly having to fucking kowtow to a bunch of administrators who may well have their fingers in the pie and having to almost apologise for some investigative journalist shining a light on it. If everything was all above board then England would have a World Cup by now or would be nailed on to get this one, however, for all the 'disgrace' comments about panorama and the other media stories, what if it puts FIFA under unwelcome scrutiny where they might actually have to be seen to do the right and fair thing?

     

    The best bid should win otherwise fuck 'em! It's not worth the appeasement and the silent condoning of corruption.

     

    it's not just the silent condoning of corruption. it is the allowing fifa to take all the profits at a 0% tax rate, allowing them to bring in their own laws which over-ride our civil and criminal laws leading up to and for the duration fo the tournament. whole areas round stadiums will become fifa friendly corporate zones.

     

    let spain portugal have it, that would be close enough to visit and without the hassle of having to bow down to sepp and his cronies. Jack Warner, what an odious man and yet our Prime Minister is currently sucking up to him.

     

    putin always wants to be associated with winning, the fact he isn't going suggests he has doubts about Russia's chances.

  3. Im a bit confused. How is it featuring them? Just by saying their names? Or are they involved with the music somehow?

     

    i imagine that nolan laid down the drum tracks, while shearer was responsible for the sequencing.

  4. Ashley seems to believe he can run a football club with a skeleton coaching staff. Disaster waiting to happen.

     

    Are all the turnstiles open now on matchdays? Im sure a bit back they closed a lot of them down, I assume to save the minimal cost of staffing them. It's all open where I am but wondering about the rest of ground.

     

    Thing is, if ever you get a glimmer of hope that the penny is dropping (I thought we had a decent transfer window), he then pulls another stunt (assistant manager, stadium branding) to remind you that he hasnt got a clue.

     

    got a text today saying that the reason loyalty points are no longer used for matches is because it took too much staff time and money to do it that way. From now it is on a first come first served basis. penny pinching in the extreme.

  5. were tickets for this £36?

     

    West Ham are doing an offer to try and fill the ground where a season ticket holder can get 2 tickets for £15. will this be subject to the same rules as Sheffield Wednesday away last year, when there were a load of refunds?

  6. Was it Graveson who nearly broke Bernards leg a few years ago at Goodison? Or Carsley? Either way they were never appropriately punished. Just while we're raking up the past.

    Gravesen.

  7. Stating the fact that most cases of rape in the UK are committed by black people is in no way racist, crime rates in general are much much higher in certain black communities as everyone knows and there are many reasons why this this is the case, none of which are to do with race. I really wish people bringing up this subject didnt automatically result in them being branded racist.

     

    As for the initial comment from Stevie being off topic its hardly as off topic and derailing as a lot of the stuff in threads on here and any other forum vfor that matter. At least it didn't result in Leazes v Skidmark debate (yet)

     

    He does it repeatedly though, and this wasn't just the topic drifting o/t, it was a blatent look for a bite (that was sucessful). You're completely naive if you think these posts from him are just a coincidence imo.

     

    Btw Stevie, do you think the BNP website (the source of your gangrape figures) is reliable?

    Was in "The London Paper" actually, but there are plenty other stats out there.

     

    There are? Odd, why were you asking for them then?

    Because they were just for gang rape, I doubt the government would publish the overall figures for fear of being branded racists.

     

    Put in an FoI request. I'd be interested to see them too.

     

    the london paper site has no statistics for gang rape on it.

  8. His brother is the co-accused I hear.

     

    It would be nice for him to get sent down for a good stretch but not nice to think he did actually rape someone. He'll get what he deserves.

    Would be interesting to see the rape figures broken down per head of population by ethnicity.

     

    Agreed, would make very interesting reading I bet.

    Do you think me asking a question about figures regarding the ethnicity of people who commit rape is racist Wacky? You can't even discuss it these days, absolutely disgusting without slanderous remarks in todays society, totally disgusting.

     

     

    It's got no relevance to this thread though, unless you're suggesting that because he is black he is more (or less) likely to have done it, which is just ridiculous.

    I haven't suggested that at all, he may well be innocent. The point is though it's yet another potential rape case, and the figures don't lie. You make a poor case as to how this may be racist, and mrkikiet asked why I didn't mention socioeconomic conditions, because in the case of Titus Bramble that is completely irrelevant. Who was the last footballer convicted of assault on a woman? I'll give you a clue he's just signed for Coventry. What are you thoughts on those figures I mentioned below Renton?

     

    but it's not completely irrelevant is it? what is his socio-economic background? could that affect how he currently treats women irrespective of the colour of his skin? you have backtracked heavily, you widened it out and now, when called up on it you have gone back to a specific instance.

     

    gang rape and rape aren't quite the same thing? do you have a link to those statistics?

  9. His brother is the co-accused I hear.

     

    It would be nice for him to get sent down for a good stretch but not nice to think he did actually rape someone. He'll get what he deserves.

    Would be interesting to see the rape figures broken down per head of population by ethnicity.

     

    Agreed, would make very interesting reading I bet.

    Do you think me asking a question about figures regarding the ethnicity of people who commit rape is racist Wacky? You can't even discuss it these days, absolutely disgusting without slanderous remarks in todays society, totally disgusting.

     

    why by ehnicity? why not by academic achievement, or household income when growing up, socio-economic background? asking for ethnicity implies an agenda which you wish to push.

  10. I would strongly urge any member who isnt sure about renewing to let them know their concerns otherwise its just going to continue going downhill which would be a shame. Theres a forum on the site, get on there and post the reasons, use the new "Ask the Board" facility or simply make it clear on places such as this which will get fedback.

     

    I would do but i still don't seem to have a username or password for the forum.

     

    Generally i would imagine people spend more time talking about it on here than on the NUST forum. Not that I am prolific here...

  11. and from the journalist himself:

     

    Dear Lesley,

     

    Sorry to land you with so many protests from Newcastle United fans during my absence in Crete. This is a new experience for me. In 18 years writing for the Guardian, I think I’ve appeared in the corrections column twice before.

    I’ve just been back over my voice recorder and the comments made by Simon Taylor, Chelsea FC’s head of corporate responsibility. We’d been talking about the club’s attempts to unearth young Asian talent through its Search for An Asian Star initiative. I was struck by Taylor’s commitment to what I initially assumed was a PR stunt. It emerged that he’s married to an Indian woman and feels quite strongly that football has a role to play in breaking down racial barriers. (All this was in the original 900 word piece that evidently had to be cut back to fit into the only space available on the day.) It struck me that Chelsea and football generally had moved on considerably from the ‘70s and ‘80s when the National Front was active on the terraces at Stamford Bridge and elsewhere, stirring up abuse against black players. When I mentioned this to Taylor, he said: “I remember being at Newcastle when Andy Cole played his first game and there were protests outside the stadium.”

    I asked him whether or not he was at the game and he said no. He was a student at the time but it was evidently a talking point locally. I then went on to point out that he [Cole] became a hero among Newcastle fans. And Taylor replied: “Overnight. He scored a hat-trick in his first game.”

    It’s a while since I wrote this piece but I do remember putting “Andy Cole’s debut for Newcastle United” into Google to check. A lot came up about Cole and Newcastle but nothing about his debut. I decided to keep in the quote, however, because it fitted in well with the original 900-word piece and made the point that black players like Cole had won over crowds through the brilliance of their performances, and there’s no reason why Asian players shouldn’t one day do the same if they’re given a chance.

    It turns out that Cole scored on his home debut, but not a hat trick. That’s factually wrong and I’m sorry. As for the protest, Taylor had made the point that it happened OUTSIDE the ground. Many of those Guardian readers who have written in to complain were at the game, but nobody can be aware of what’s happening in all the streets around a ground. It may have been a few racist diehards. Newcastle certainly had its share in the ‘70s and ‘80s, and I don’t suppose they evaporated completely in the early ‘90s. A good pal of mine, who supports the club (and reads the Guardian) told me that he was embarrassed by the abuse aimed at opposition black players, home and away. Magpies fans weren’t the only ones by any means, but – as ever – they were louder than most. Newcastle is a great club with passionate supporters and they’ve since heaped their adulation on to black folk heroes such as Faustino Asprilla and Les Ferdinand.. Andy Cole emerged at a time when attitudes were beginning to change and the Kick It Out campaign emerged in earnest. That’s why I kept in Taylor’s quote.

     

    Yours apologetically,

     

    Chris

  12. Fuck calling NUFC, get your apology in the same form as the original article - in your newspaper!!

     

    As a season-ticket holder back then I can safely say there was no evidence of 'something in the air' or 'undercurrent' arising from signing Cole. He may well be alluding to the shit Tony Cunningham had to endure but that was because he was fucking shit rather than anything of a racist element. It certainly was no worse than the abuse Rob McDonald and Frank Pingel endured.

     

    And lets not forget - NUFC, the first English club to embrace a Brazilian. Course we were a 'racist' club. :wub:

     

    This bloke Taylor is a fucking idiot.... and a clueless one at that!!

     

    Think you're overreacting a bit to this personally Craig. It's just lazy journalism rather than anything malicious imo.

     

    Tbf it's a bit worse than lazy journalism-it's demonstrably 'made up'. Which when it's alleging widespread racism is pretty appalling.

     

    There has been an amendment published at the end of the article now. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/may...h-asian-chelsea

  13. Has anybody ever heard anything back from the Guardian in cases like this? or do they just ignore everyone?

    an initial response:

    Thank you very much for your email, we are looking into this - our first step has to be to talk to the writer and the person who gave the quote.

    all good wishes

    Helen Hodgson

    Assistant Readers' editor

  14. Cock & Lion (Newcastle pub in London) is being decorated inside and out with black and White balloons etc, massive flags on the outside an inside. Free buffet on at 16.30 after the match.

     

    on Wigmore St nr Bond st tube for those who are interested.

  15. The radge game that football is though, they'll have a shit defence with Puyol and Pique now suspended and Arsenal have a tiny squeak at least.

    unless marquez is injured they still have milito and marquez to play there in the return, both international cbs.

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