McFaul

But you think it's in their culture? Ingrained in their families and societies? It's one point of view.

They're the most racist because generally they're the most selfish and also because they're exposed to black poverty more than anywhere else in the country. The percentage of blacks in poverty is obviously much greater than among whites. Poverty and the lower levels of life ambition among the poor needs to be tackled on a whole rather than on racial lines. Poverty never made people in Jarrow act like cunts. They were so poor they had no food, so they thought fuck this we'll march to London to raise awareness. Poverty is no excuse for being a cunt. My family were all brought up in Walker saw various recessions, and they're all very, very decent people. I love the way poverty is brought up as a reason for explaining why it's understandable certain groups behave like cunts. I didn't say it was an excuse but it was a reason. So what do you think the reason is then? It's just because they're black? There are various possible reasons, it's not just because they're black, people are not born cunts regardless what your skin colour is.

They're the most racist because generally they're the most selfish and also because they're exposed to black poverty more than anywhere else in the country. The percentage of blacks in poverty is obviously much greater than among whites. Poverty and the lower levels of life ambition among the poor needs to be tackled on a whole rather than on racial lines. Poverty never made people in Jarrow act like cunts. They were so poor they had no food, so they thought fuck this we'll march to London to raise awareness. Poverty is no excuse for being a cunt. My family were all brought up in Walker saw various recessions, and they're all very, very decent people. I love the way poverty is brought up as a reason for explaining why it's understandable certain groups behave like cunts.

I haven't got a racist bone in my body, I've got on with black people and muslims my whole life, I don't look at people differently by what they look like (unless they're ginger), but here's something else lots of people in London I know well will admit, white Londoners in general are the most racist cunts in the country. I think I've discussed that with Meenzer or someone else on here and they agreed. Now I wonder what causes the racism.

No I didn't have an opinion, I was just happy we were allowed away from school at dinner time three days running, that was my prime concern at the time. You stick up for the West end a lot in general which is fair enough but my point is that unforunately the most deprived areas produce the most "scum" in the sense of people who don't give a fuck, In London and other cities those areas happen to be the most "ethnic" which is something that should be addressed and as I've said there are some cultural aspects which are at work but in general as I said, deprivation = lack of decency. I think that's a bigger factor than race as it applies in non-racial areas like Tyneside and Glasgow. This goes back to an argument I had with LM a few months ago which got bogged down in racial make-up but I stand by the point that compared to LOndon, Tyneside is very white but shows the same variation in "decency" based on pockets 0f poverty. We'd had ten years of riots around the country then, different set of circumstances, Tyneside ruined by a tory government, a clear North-South divide, and police brutality that is incomparable to today. I answered your point about the amount of poor black people in London, there are more poor white people in number, so answer my question with that in mind. My mate made a great point this morning, it was never going to happen here or in Scotland, and everyone knows why, it's just no one likes to admit it. Awful state of affairs when you can't speak your own mind in 2011. It'll only get worse with the amount of PC wankers around sadly. The world needs people like Leazes Mag to ask questions, they'll die out eventually and we'll all be conformist robots with the same opinions and attitudes for fear of offending people.

No I didn't have an opinion, I was just happy we were allowed away from school at dinner time three days running, that was my prime concern at the time.

What these simple answer people, saying it's fuck all to do with race are ignoring is, there are far more poor white people in London than there are poor black people, due to the far greater numbers of whites inside the M25. So with that in mind think about your argument again, why are 4/5th of these scumbags black. It's a question you won't answer.

APart from the obvious correlation between poverty in the black areas like Hackney. How people who live in Scotswood work in Scotswood?

Shut up you dickhead. It's a genuine question. You're sterotyping them as lazy cunts who contribute fuck all to society. So, a yes or no. I said not all blacks are like this but in South London you need to spend time there to experience what it's like. Of course not all blacks are bad people the same as not all white people are. I've asked a question regarding the ethnicity of these rioters, can you answer it, ignore it, or continue to deliberately misconstrue it?

Shut up you dickhead.

Christ on a vespa, are we really dividing this down racial lines? You just need to glance at the news coverage to see that it's not just black or white or asian kids acting the cunt. It's like It's a Small World on heroin. It's 80% black people in London and Birmingham. Decorate how you will but that is a fact. I implore you to spend a few months living in South London, I've probably lived two years of my life when you add it all up in those area's and the majority of black people there are lazy fuckin cunts. I'm not saying ALL black people are because they're not, but lets see if your attitude towards this situation and them changes. Very easy to hypothesise without first hand experience of these people. South London and North London has the worst people on these islands, and Sammy's quality story, goes in some way to explaining why. See the African blacks in London, they hate Afro Caribbean blacks, because they're fuck all like them, and they see the yardie types as getting blacks a bad name. The black London sub-culture which exists now is one of the worst aspects of immigration in my view. You even have fucking white kids pretending to be black, talking like they're black, like I say it's alright sat in South Shields, nodding your head at racial equality people on newsnight talking shite, but when you've been in the front line, and I have, it will educate you somewhat. You're trivilising the entire event by turning it into a ridiculous debate about race. You're a good lad Stevie, but you don't half talk some shite at times like this Well it's got a lot to do with race, I've asked for reasons why 80% of the people involved in London come from 20% of the London population. The best answer I've had so far is "I don't know".

40% unemployment amongst blacks in London, ah aye it's all because of their skin tone isn't it that they can't get work. What sums this country up is, it's acceptable to say scousers are all scrounging lazy cunts happy on the dole, but as soon as ethnicity comes in to it, it's not. Absolutely pathetic, and you epitomise everything I hate about the present generation of people, you summed it up yesterday.

Nah, Marcus Dowe apparently. @ 0:19 Just seems a bit senile now like tbf-his jaw was going in that overactive gummy way and he looked like he was in his dressing gown. What a stupid old cunt. If they don't like it fuck off somewhere else where they feel more wanted. Everyone has their own choices in life, just because you're black doesn't mean you've failed. Black people regardless of where they're from can achieve as much as white people, fact. What they should do is fuck off to Italy where blacks are racially abused on a daily basis, or to Africa or Jamaica where they can be as fucking lazy as they like, then they'll have fuck all to moan about. As Barton rightly put, there's too many cunts who thinks this world owes them a living, you achieve fuck all without hard work, and there's a lot of these people who are inherently lazy going back centuries, and lots of their kids will be lazy, and their kids kids. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT FUCK OFF! True story this like but I was looking after my nephews last year as I've mentioned previously on here when they got took away from my sister by the authorities. The kids are mixed race - mum and dad are both fucking useless, ones a white crack addict, ones a black crack addict so what I'm about to say isn't a comment about race at all, but it is a comment about Britain and what you touched on above (and specifically about Jamaica). The reason the kids first came to the authorities attention was because the youngest one's dad got arrested by the police for some nothing crack addict offence. Now as I mentioned, he's a black Jamaican, illiterate crack addict and I spose, according to Darcus Howe's output there, someone with more to fear from the British police than anyone else. If you asked this lad though, and I did as it happens, he wasn't remotely affraid of British society or the British authorities, because he compared everything to Jamaica at the end of the day and in every way it was 1000,000 times safer to be here than it was to be there. Anyway to cut a long, boring story short, he was deported back to Jamaica during the care proceedings as he wasn't entitled to remain in Britain as he was an overstayer. Well 9 months later and he's shot dead by the Jamaican police. No doubt while doing summat he shouldn't but absolutely no suggestion it was anything endangering life. Seriously, he wasn't messing about, they shoot people like rats over there. I'm not saying there aren't issues surrounding policing and ethnicity in the UK, but people like Darcus Howe want to get a grip when they try and pass off looting and arson as a form of protest against the killing of Mark Duggan. As I say though, I reckon he looked senile. Quality patter (almost wrote 'crack' there ) again mate. Aye top draw. They've been lazy cunts for centuries man.

Christ on a vespa, are we really dividing this down racial lines? You just need to glance at the news coverage to see that it's not just black or white or asian kids acting the cunt. It's like It's a Small World on heroin. It's 80% black people in London and Birmingham. Decorate how you will but that is a fact. I implore you to spend a few months living in South London, I've probably lived two years of my life when you add it all up in those area's and the majority of black people there are lazy fuckin cunts. I'm not saying ALL black people are because they're not, but lets see if your attitude towards this situation and them changes. Very easy to hypothesise without first hand experience of these people. South London and North London has the worst people on these islands, and Sammy's quality story, goes in some way to explaining why. See the African blacks in London, they hate Afro Caribbean blacks, because they're fuck all like them, and they see the yardie types as getting blacks a bad name. The black London sub-culture which exists now is one of the worst aspects of immigration in my view. You even have fucking white kids pretending to be black, talking like they're black, like I say it's alright sat in South Shields, nodding your head at racial equality people on newsnight talking shite, but when you've been in the front line, and I have, it will educate you somewhat.

Well I've got a phrase for them and it's the same letters as London's largest regional radio station.

Isegrim what are the Germans saying about this, in the streets and the press? "English mugs"?

The best point I've seen made about this whole thing is, see in Syria or Egypt or Palestine, they fucking riot because they have a cause, a political/religious cause they believe in. Here, the cause is they want to rob fucking Lidl's and Curry's, and that's it! That is it.

You just need to look at Shola, which emphasises my point.

Nah, Marcus Dowe apparently. @ 0:19 Just seems a bit senile now like tbf-his jaw was going in that overactive gummy way and he looked like he was in his dressing gown. What a stupid old cunt. If they don't like it fuck off somewhere else where they feel more wanted. Everyone has their own choices in life, just because you're black doesn't mean you've failed. Black people regardless of where they're from can achieve as much as white people, fact. What they should do is fuck off to Italy where blacks are racially abused on a daily basis, or to Africa or Jamaica where they can be as fucking lazy as they like, then they'll have fuck all to moan about. As Barton rightly put, there's too many cunts who thinks this world owes them a living, you achieve fuck all without hard work, and there's a lot of these people who are inherently lazy going back centuries, and lots of their kids will be lazy, and their kids kids. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT FUCK OFF!

If this game is called off, after 2 months of looking forward to it, I'll fuckin start a riot mesel. Cunts.

Could be muslims v blacks, for once I'd be on the muslim side given it's 80% blacks causing these problems.

Riotting in Wolverhampton and West Bromwich now, it's certainly not called the black country for nothing looking at these pictures.

Lies. Professional tac dealers aye. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-englan...11__CK12_14_15_ So you were lying. Where does it say HALF the people charged were professionals and grads?!?!?!?! Explain why you lied. No its s fact. and no evidence is going to convince me otherwise. You told lies, why did you lie to this forum under the guise that BBC said half the people were "grads and professionals", why did you lie?

Lies. Professional tac dealers aye. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-englan...11__CK12_14_15_ So you were lying. Where does it say HALF the people charged were professionals and grads?!?!?!?! Explain why you lied.