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  1. 3 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

    Aye I thought he could have stayed on his feet, but its a pen.  If thats any Top 6 team thats a pen.

    Of course he could have stayed on his feet, the only tackles where you can't are brutal and almost never occur in the box. You have to go down in a scenerio like that to rightfully get the penalty. Usually anyway. He was right to go down but he has to be the least convincing player when going down under contact and it's reflected in how rarely he wins free kicks. I believe it's because he's fundamentally slow, so falling over always seems delayed. We need to get Jonas in to teach him, he was the best I've seen at Newcastle at winning free-kicks.

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  2. 5 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

    Howe nailed it v Spurs last week but got

    it all wrong tonight.

     

    on paper it’s a dog shit XI but we do have loads of starters out. 
     

    Bar Schar, not one good performance tonight. Anderson tried.

     

    Gordon needs to start showing up away from home.

     

    well played Palace though. 

     

     

     

    Palace were very good.

  3. 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

    I've no idea how the ref hasn't given that. Look at the view he has of it. 

     

    Fucking ridiculous that. 

     

    Yep, that level of contact is fine if both players are going for the ball or if there was already contact. That has to have been such a simple decision as the palace player has reached across the body of Longstaff for no reason other than to slow his run. Diabolical. Let's get Nottingham Forest's social media on the case.

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  4. 1 minute ago, Toonpack said:

    Well second best and that Eze is fucking running us ragged

    We've got no answer to skilled pacy attacking players, particularly through the middle. Burn and Schär would have to be amongst the slowest defensive pairings in the league and we've not got a shielding midfielder to help them.

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  5. On 07/12/2019 at 19:32, Alex said:

    I get the application of the rule and everything, I just think it should be there for the ‘howler’. More widely I think it interferes far too much with the flow of the game. The decision was correct though, in terms of the offside but I’m not actually clear if the official was at fault for putting his flag up or not tbh.

    Edit: I thought HMHM was saying it should just be there for clear and obvious errors 

     

    Maybe that's the measure; if you can't prove the onfield decision wrong in 10 seconds then it's not a clear and obvious error and the game goes on. Minimal disruption to the flow of the game and anything that's actually clear and obvious is addressed. Drop the charade of the ref going over the the screen, just have the VAR announce the correct decision and have the audio able to be heard in the stadium and by TV audience. Simple. Effective.

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  6. 3 hours ago, Andrew said:

     

    I don't disagree but that is still all that is happening right now, unless the critical margin is kept secret from all but the VARs or the machine determining who is off and on then we'll keep having this conversation.

    For it to stop its not about what the gap is, or when the line is considered the rule has to have a wholesale change.

     

    For sure people will still complain but now the complaint is that they're not offside because their toenail was in front of the second to last defender. This would take that understandable complaint out of the reckoning. It would br their whole boot that would be infront. Where it can still be confusing is when they consider the shoulder and head. Make the rule relate to feet as this is how players move... if your head and/or shoulder is in front of the defender but your feet are behind theirs (or in the allowable zone) then that's fine. 

  7. 1 hour ago, Andrew said:

    The thing with the offside rule, is that no variation of it actually changes anything that we all hate about the offside rule.

    in line - ok so a millimeter out of line and you're offside
    daylight - ok so a millimeter of daylight and you're offside

    a yard off - ok so one yard and one millimeter and you're offside

    Everyones variation is just moving the margin because there has to be some point where you're off vs not off.

    VARs shifted the debate to shit about the lines and whatnot but we still spent 50% of every match of the day or whatever moaning about marginal offsides before VAR, nothings actually changed.

    The number of cameras at the top level of the game now ensures that we are trapped in this endless debate forever.

     

    I don't think anyone will complain with any justification if there is a clear advantage to the attacking player being ahead of defenders. I'm sure they will still complain but there will be no validity to it. There should be an allowable margin of error considering that they also need to identify the moment the ball was released to determine when to draw the line. That's my biggest contention. So for example if there is less than 150mm* between attacker and the second to last defender at the determined moment then allow the goal to stand. If it's 151mm and you're still complaining then you need a new hobby.

     

    * - Or if you really want to be generous 300mm

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  8. On 18/04/2024 at 20:53, Gemmill said:

     

    🚨🚨🚨EUROPE IN PERIL KLAXON🚨🚨🚨

     

    Man City winning the cup simplifies things a canny bit. 

     

    Public stoning and permaban for @LondonBlue if they don't win it.

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