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Aren't you the bloke that said your identity was a state secret or something?

Luther Vandross I reckons.

Yeah bring down capitalism by buying something from itunes.

"Thatcher was essentially a mouthpiece for powerful bankers and industrialists who were determined to defeat socialism or trends towards it within western economies and who abhorred any restrictions on their activities, such as capital controls. They and their ‘think tanks’ were determined to shatter the post-war Keynesian consensus based on a robust welfare state and government intervention in the economy to help secure full employment. Any notions of ‘fairness’ and the perceived benefits to be derived from the welfare state were to be substituted for positive notions about the free market and individual responsibility in order to justify the real intention of shifting the balance of power towards elite interests. Thatcher was an important cog in the wheel because of her presentation skills. Politics and politicians in advanced capitalism serve as the PR arm of the military-financial-industrial complex and Thatcher performed her role well."

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/owen-jones-thatcherism-was-a-national-catastrophe-that-still-poisons-us-8564858.html

The IMF and the EU are seperate things who have maybe different approaches. Yes? The IMF are now involved cause the ECB itself is in trouble, so will Germany soon. You can't differentiate betweent the two can you? What the IMF want at this time isn't necessarily the long term EU project is it? Right? When you understand that then you might get somewhere. Lordy! Is this a new debating trick where I give you the answers???

Meaningful debate? You are so clueless about the EU it's ridiculous. What EU stuff are you dealing with - matchtick production in Latvia? Infact you're so limited it would be dangerous to explain something to you. Woooot! Capitalism! Thatcha! Free markets! Yawn. World capitalism is on the brink of collapse sweetie. After all it was only meant to be a short term thing eh?

Look forward to it.

Top post. Just to be clear they weren't Thatchers ideas but devil spawn cooked up by right wing thinktanks and people turning lead into gold in old castles in Bavaria.

It's that you clearly have shown you have no scatty idea about the EU. So what in the name of beejeesus is this fiscal union stuff about?

Should start with state hangings. The boards of Hsbc, Royal Bank of Schottland and Barclays for starters. And that gay looking french kid who dreamt up derivitives as mortgage backed securities at Goldman Sachs (if I ever meet him I will slay the fucker I promise it).

Sheeeesh! I'm not sure if I can make it any simpler.. Ok, can the EU stop the free movement of capital? Let's start at the beginning.

They fixed the country with credit cards. It was discussed 20 years previous in a Swiss hotel. The things they do are really simple. If you're not paying enough then the bastards won't spend. Give the mongs credit. It's boring and transparent.

I'll make it easy for you. Did the VW factory move to Poland before or after it entered the EU? Google away.

Well this is about the 7th time they've done it. Look up boom and bust. Look up bubbles. Look up anything......FFS! :lolk: Here I'll tell you what's coming....POST CAPITALISM. You see how they prepare us for it? You don't. Cause you're just a meme, a repetition, a stage managed gargoyle, a victim of predictive programming ( OH the people on the telly look real!!!!!!!!)

It has no frontiers you should have said. Money chases profit and industry chases cheap labour...Countries are left behind. Look up Gatt. Your masters have been having a laugh with you as they did Thatcher (a plaything).

The poster boy for capitalism america a rogue state where wages in real terms are the same as they were in the 70's. Capitalism...ha ha ha... 40% on foodstamps or other state aid, hundredes of thousands living on the street and a debt running at 13 trillion. CAPITALISM AT ITS BEST. Seriously fuck off. It's not even a debate. We're now at the finite limits of wealth concentrated at the center and capitalism has no ans on how to get it back out. NONE. Unless we start beheading folk like. I'm all for that.

What is it then?

Don't think capitalism ever existed did it? I mean if you're counting america and it's wildly protectionist and subsidised industry as capitalist?????? Look up GATT you dope.

Neo liberalism ended in 2008.

Getting silly now. Work out what the EU is first.

He was a thatcherite in all but name, now conning and scamming his way around the world for money. His offices in Grovesnor sq cost 500,000 £ a year rent. If she was sponsored by Marlboro (she was) then he's been sponsored by the million men women and children who died in the illegal Iraq war (Q8 fund his company as do the EU and UN) He takes money from oil companies (no suprise there) and any cunt with an axe to grind who can write him big cheques. A total disgrace of a human being. Should be in prison. http://www.telegraph...is-fortune.html Traitor cunt. "Mr Blair is paid in the region of £3 million a year to advise both JP Morgan, the US investment bank, and also Zurich International, the global insurer based in Switzerland. On top of that he runs his own consultancy firm - Tony Blair Associates - which advises the oil and gas rich governments of Kuwait and Kazakhstan. "

What we need to get back to is a mixed economy, some things are better nationalised - trains and water and so on...And other things are better run privately for profit. We have great things in the UK that have nothing to do with Thatcher, infact inspite of her and the neo-liberal scorched earth policy her and the traitor class manged to lay on us. These policies were one moment the mad creations of right wing think tanks (paid for by millionaires and big business) and the next minute Govt. policy...The fight goes on. We will win. Historically the people have always won. ALWAYS.