Park Life 70 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Oi Oi Oi!! What exactly are their football qualifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Oi Oi Oi!! What exactly are their football qualifications? 'A-Levels' from Maccy D's football academy, I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 Oi Oi Oi!! What exactly are their football qualifications? 'A-Levels' from Maccy D's football academy, I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 .com Jeff VetereA former apprentice at Luton Town, he rose from a youth coaching role at Rushden & Diamonds to become Charlton Athletic’s overseas scouting co-ordinator. Fluent in Italian and Spanish, he has since worked for Real Madrid but will take the title of technical director, which will mean an international scouting role. Credited with an encyclopaedic knowledge of footballers, Vetere will be expected to use his broad range of skills to help Newcastle to restock their youth and reserve ranks with exciting prospects. Seems to have it in his blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 .com Jeff VetereA former apprentice at Luton Town, he rose from a youth coaching role at Rushden & Diamonds to become Charlton Athletic’s overseas scouting co-ordinator. Fluent in Italian and Spanish, he has since worked for Real Madrid but will take the title of technical director, which will mean an international scouting role. Credited with an encyclopaedic knowledge of footballers, Vetere will be expected to use his broad range of skills to help Newcastle to restock their youth and reserve ranks with exciting prospects. Seems to have it in his blood. Can we assume then that Charlton Athletic now have the cream of european football youth at there academy ?? Hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 .com Jeff VetereA former apprentice at Luton Town, he rose from a youth coaching role at Rushden & Diamonds to become Charlton Athletic’s overseas scouting co-ordinator. Fluent in Italian and Spanish, he has since worked for Real Madrid but will take the title of technical director, which will mean an international scouting role. Credited with an encyclopaedic knowledge of footballers, Vetere will be expected to use his broad range of skills to help Newcastle to restock their youth and reserve ranks with exciting prospects. Seems to have it in his blood. We've hired a scout. Great. Why all the hoopla? Most top clubs have a dozen of these little cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 .com Jeff VetereA former apprentice at Luton Town, he rose from a youth coaching role at Rushden & Diamonds to become Charlton Athletic’s overseas scouting co-ordinator. Fluent in Italian and Spanish, he has since worked for Real Madrid but will take the title of technical director, which will mean an international scouting role. Credited with an encyclopaedic knowledge of footballers, Vetere will be expected to use his broad range of skills to help Newcastle to restock their youth and reserve ranks with exciting prospects. Seems to have it in his blood. We've hired a scout. Great. Why all the hoopla? Most top clubs have a dozen of these little cunts. The hoopla seems to be around Ernie Wise. You started the thread about the three of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 .com Jeff VetereA former apprentice at Luton Town, he rose from a youth coaching role at Rushden & Diamonds to become Charlton Athletic’s overseas scouting co-ordinator. Fluent in Italian and Spanish, he has since worked for Real Madrid but will take the title of technical director, which will mean an international scouting role. Credited with an encyclopaedic knowledge of footballers, Vetere will be expected to use his broad range of skills to help Newcastle to restock their youth and reserve ranks with exciting prospects. Seems to have it in his blood. We've hired a scout. Great. Why all the hoopla? Most top clubs have a dozen of these little cunts. The hoopla seems to be around Ernie Wise. You started the thread about the three of them. They need my special treatment is why. From what I know of DW is that he isn't the same persona wise as he was as a player and has been a good organiser at Leeds - he got Poyet in after all and deserves credit for that. The role he seems to be playing for us is a strange one ie in the back room..I'd have him as a coach, hands on. Was always a clever player and could pass on many good things. Vespa is a professional scout and social climber who seems to have hit the jackpot and embedded himself with MA. There is nothing however in his record as a scout to suggest he's discovered anyone for anyone ever - unless you count Tijani Babangida.. The fixer was the schemer behind getting Ramos to Spurs. Not sure apart from building flats what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 .com Jeff VetereA former apprentice at Luton Town, he rose from a youth coaching role at Rushden & Diamonds to become Charlton Athletic’s overseas scouting co-ordinator. Fluent in Italian and Spanish, he has since worked for Real Madrid but will take the title of technical director, which will mean an international scouting role. Credited with an encyclopaedic knowledge of footballers, Vetere will be expected to use his broad range of skills to help Newcastle to restock their youth and reserve ranks with exciting prospects. Seems to have it in his blood. We've hired a scout. Great. Why all the hoopla? Most top clubs have a dozen of these little cunts. The hoopla seems to be around Ernie Wise. You started the thread about the three of them. They need my special treatment is why. From what I know of DW is that he isn't the same persona wise as he was as a player and has been a good organiser at Leeds - he got Poyet in after all and deserves credit for that. The role he seems to be playing for us is a strange one ie in the back room..I'd have him as a coach, hands on. Was always a clever player and could pass on many good things. Vespa is a professional scout and social climber who seems to have hit the jackpot and embedded himself with MA. There is nothing however in his record as a scout to suggest he's discovered anyone for anyone ever - unless you count Tijani Babangida.. The fixer was the schemer behind getting Ramos to Spurs. Not sure apart from building flats what he can do. I'm not going to pretend to know anything about these people, but a multi-lingual scout good enough to get work at Real Madrid sounds like a step up from Chris McMenemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 .com Jeff VetereA former apprentice at Luton Town, he rose from a youth coaching role at Rushden & Diamonds to become Charlton Athletic’s overseas scouting co-ordinator. Fluent in Italian and Spanish, he has since worked for Real Madrid but will take the title of technical director, which will mean an international scouting role. Credited with an encyclopaedic knowledge of footballers, Vetere will be expected to use his broad range of skills to help Newcastle to restock their youth and reserve ranks with exciting prospects. Seems to have it in his blood. We've hired a scout. Great. Why all the hoopla? Most top clubs have a dozen of these little cunts. The hoopla seems to be around Ernie Wise. You started the thread about the three of them. They need my special treatment is why. From what I know of DW is that he isn't the same persona wise as he was as a player and has been a good organiser at Leeds - he got Poyet in after all and deserves credit for that. The role he seems to be playing for us is a strange one ie in the back room..I'd have him as a coach, hands on. Was always a clever player and could pass on many good things. Vespa is a professional scout and social climber who seems to have hit the jackpot and embedded himself with MA. There is nothing however in his record as a scout to suggest he's discovered anyone for anyone ever - unless you count Tijani Babangida.. The fixer was the schemer behind getting Ramos to Spurs. Not sure apart from building flats what he can do. I'm not going to pretend to know anything about these people, but a multi-lingual scout good enough to get work at Real Madrid sounds like a step up from Chris McMenemy. I bet you like the thread title tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26540 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I'm not going to pretend to know anything about these people, but a multi-lingual scout good enough to get work at Real Madrid sounds like a step up from Chris McMenemy. I think we need to know a bit more about what he did for Real before judging him on that, like how long was he there for, was he just doing the odd bit of scouting or was he more senior? who did he find for them? etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) I'm not going to pretend to know anything about these people, but a multi-lingual scout good enough to get work at Real Madrid sounds like a step up from Chris McMenemy. I think we need to know a bit more about what he did for Real before judging him on that, like how long was he there for, was he just doing the odd bit of scouting or was he more senior? who did he find for them? etc. Whoever brought in Zoggy can keep their job. This new bloke can't be any worse than the rest of them. Edited January 29, 2008 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 The fixer was the schemer behind getting Ramos to Spurs. Not sure apart from building flats what he can do. Well no-one has shelved the Newcastle Village project as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 The fixer was the schemer behind getting Ramos to Spurs. Not sure apart from building flats what he can do. Well no-one has shelved the Newcastle Village project as far as I know. Apparently the new owner isn't interested (if you're referring to the casino, hotel, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8889 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2249017,00.html The fixer and the facts machine: unveiling Newcastle's odd couple · Jeff Vetere the Real deal say his former colleagues as the talent spotter enters Toon. Sid Lowe and Sachin Nakrani Wednesday January 30, 2008 Guardian Unlimited He may not be a household name within English football circles but Jeff Vetere is held in high regard at Spain's biggest club and could well prove to the most valuable of Newcastle United's latest batch of coaching recruits. Staff at Real Madrid's Valdebebas HQ speak extremely highly of Newcastle's newest head of player recruitment, both personally and professionally. An Englishman who is fluent in Spanish, French and Italian, Vetere spent four months at Madrid under the technical director, Miguel Angel Portugal, and the club's director of international football, the former Barcelona and Rayo Vallecano goalkeeper Julen Lopetegui. His role was to help the Spanish club scout and sign the best talents across the world. It was a glamorous role, particularly for a man whose playing career did not extend beyond being an apprentice at Luton Town and whose first serious coaching role was at non-league Rushden & Diamonds. Vetere was brought to the Northamptonshire club by Brian Talbot soon after he became the manager there in 1997 to head up their newly established youth academy. Rushden were one of the first non-league sides to have such a set-up and Vetere, who Talbot had first heard of while managing the Maltese club side Marsaxlokk, was seen as having the credentials to develop and manage a potentially bright crop of young players. Few players, however, emerged through Rushden's academy in the three years Vetere was there. The most notable was Andrew Burgess who has made more than 200 appearances for the club since 1999 and is now in his second spell there. But the midfielder speaks highly of the man who nurtured his career. "I was not surprised that Jeff [Vetere] ended up at Real Madrid because the guy is a walking encyclopedia of footballing knowledge," Burgess said. "Mention the name of any footballer and he will tell you who he has played for, how many goals he has scored and even what size boots he wears." Vetere next moved to Charlton Athletic where his official role was overseas coordinator but day-to-day involvement included working with the youth team. The full-back Grant Basey, who broke into the first team last year at the age of 19, has credited Vetere with his development. Having worked with him at Charlton, Alan Curbishley brought Vetere to West Ham in January last year to work as a part-time overseas scout. He was snapped up by Madrid at the end of the season and is now one of Newcastle's latest signings. Vetere, in turn, will be hoping to make some significant signings of his own. · Tony Jimenez has the nous and the contacts to bring more new faces to Tyneside The revelation that Tony Jimenez had landed the post of vice-president (player recruitment) at Newcastle United brought a degree of incredulity within the English game yesterday. Surprise was articulated in expletives while a recurrent theme was that Jimenez might be a "good bloke" but where was his football background? "I'm amazed that he has been entrusted with player recruitment," said one agent. "He knows nothing about football." Jimenez, an executive season-ticket holder at Chelsea who has built a network of contacts in football, men whose knowledge cannot be questioned, would argue that his skills lie elsewhere. The 42-year-old would fall down if an old professional asked him to "show us your medals" but when he opens up his black book and dials numbers throughout Europe, he makes things happen. A fixer in the mould of Pini Zahavi, the so-called super-agent, Jimenez is essentially a businessman and agent. He used to be a director of Casa Sports Holdings Ltd, a sports management and promotion company, whose clients have included Celestine Babayaro, the former Chelsea and Newcastle defender. Jimenez moved and shook in the international transfer market before it exploded into a multimillion-pound industry. There are few people he cannot reach and his likeability and capacity to get things done have helped him to win the trust of prominent people. They do not come much more prominent than Mike Ashley and Paul Kemsley, the Newcastle owner and the former Tottenham director, who are lifelong friends and have welcomed Jimenez into their circle. While Ashley made his fortune in the retail business, it has been property for Kemsley and here Jimenez has much in common. He is a millionaire because of a series of property developments, which have included hotels and golf courses in Spain and Dubai. The trio have worked on business deals and in football. Jimenez was born in Brixton, south London, and lives in Kent but he comes from a Spanish family, who hail from Seville, and his fluency in Spanish and knowledge of the city of Seville saw him play a part in Tottenham's move for Juande Ramos. He also helped to install Gus Poyet as Ramos' Tottenham assistant. He forged a friendship with Poyet when the Uruguayan was at Chelsea, having entered from the fringes to become a recognisable face at Stamford Bridge. He became close not only to Poyet but also to Dennis Wise. He is described as "one of the lads". Alongside his friend Wise, Newcastle's new executive director of football, the middle man has moved to become the main man. Chain of command Owner Mike Ashley Chairman Chris Mort Executive director Dennis Wise Player recruitment Tony Jimenez Technical coordinator Jeff Vetere Manager Kevin Keegan Coaches Terry McDermott, Nigel Pearson, Steve Round, Paul Barron (goalkeeping) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Newcastle's Wise men just hangers-on By Michael Henderson Last Updated: 1:37am GMT 01/02/2008 Have your say Read comments What do you mean, Dennis Wise isn't the right man for Newcastle United? Now that Fred Karno has gone to that great circus in the sky, Lord Charles has mislaid his monocle, and Sooty can no longer work with Sweep owing to 'irreconcilable differences', the cabbies' pal is just about the only man whose feet are big enough to fill the boots that Mike Ashley has made for him. Football fans' forum Newcastle homepage Experience, aptitude, suitability, promise: all the qualities one looks for in scholarship candidates may be found within his lean and hungry frame. He took Leeds United down last year, but has apparently grown tired of day-to-day management (after all, he's been doing it so long) and would prefer to return to the South-East, particularly if some kind employer trebles his salary. And Newcastle fans wonder why so many people the length and breadth of the kingdom are hooting at the folk who run their club! Dennis Wise: Newcastle's new executive director (football) The joke may not be shared by Kevin Keegan, a king who must realise that his crown and sceptre offer little protection against the courtiers who occupy such important positions. What, he may wonder, are we doing with an 'executive director' (Wise's title) who is responsible for spotting and recruiting players (from an office in London) when he was restored to the throne two weeks ago with a promise of absolute power? It had to be absolute, otherwise he wouldn't have returned. What are they doing with a London friend of Ashley's, one Tony Jimenez, filling the unspecified role of 'fixer', not to mention a 'technical co-ordinator' who may have something to do with scouting? It's clear as an old-fashioned pea-souper. The game changes, but change does not always betoken improvement. When Keegan made his name at Liverpool three decades ago, Bill Shankly had no use for co-ordinators or executive directors. Whenever he wanted to discuss something, a player to bring in or one to ship out, he talked it over with Bob Paisley in the time it took to sup a brew. Football, for those men, was in the blood, and the records of Shankly and Paisley are there for all to see, just as the feats of Busby and Ferguson are available for consideration. And those of Cullis, Nicholson, Catterick, Revie and Clough. They were - in Ferguson's case, still are - football men, which is not necessarily the best thing to be in the modern game. advertisement Ashley made his mint from flogging sportswear. Jimenez, we are told, sells properties. Expensive ones. Lots of 'em. They belong to, and understand, the world of finance, and evidently like to hang around football clubs, and the people who play for them, as many rich folk do. It does not follow that they know the first thing about football. Indeed the recruitment of Wise to such a senior position suggests that Ashley's knowledge of the game could be written in capital letters on the back of a Metrolink ticket. His offer to Jimenez suggests that he wants a friend to hold his hand. These are not steps of a confident man; more like steps in the dark, undertaken in faith. Newcastle fans like to think of their club as a big one, and they are entitled to their opinions. Stand back from the canvas, however, and the picture looks very different. What outsiders see right now is a club run by London-based business people for whom football appears to be a fashion accessory, where jobs are given to pals, and pals of pals. Two weeks after the restoration, Keegan may not be a wiser monarch. But, where the manners of the modern game are concerned, he is considerably better informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I can't read the Guardian Sports section. It's so shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 I can't read the Guardian Sports section. It's so shit. It's from the Teddygraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 So it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. The press hope that everything fails at NUFC. We, obviously, hope everything works - and works well. The truth is that no-one knows how it will all pan out, but the press are spewing out page after page of Eastenders-type drivel to try to convince one and all that they know what they are talking about. Time will tell, but I will fuckin' LOVE IT if the press are wrong. And if we do start climbing the league and future stars are unearthed by the Gang of Three, I hope everyone at NUFC has a long memory of what has been, and what will be in the meantime, written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. The press hope that everything fails at NUFC. We, obviously, hope everything works - and works well. The truth is that no-one knows how it will all pan out, but the press are spewing out page after page of Eastenders-type drivel to try to convince one and all that they know what they are talking about. Time will tell, but I will fuckin' LOVE IT if the press are wrong. And if we do start climbing the league and future stars are unearthed by the Gang of Three, I hope everyone at NUFC has a long memory of what has been, and what will be in the meantime, written. Tbf to the press it is rather a strange bunch of characters and they have been given rather spurious titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I'm off to the match on saturday on the Metrolink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I'm off to the match on saturday on the Metrolink. 24 hours early! SOOPAFANTASTIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I'm off to the match on saturday on the Metrolink. Man City v Arsenal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I'm off to the match on saturday on the Metrolink. 24 hours early! SOOPAFANTASTIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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