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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50427369 Another pointless pledge by Labour that just heaps billions onto the cost of their plan. Stop fucking nationalising everything!

Labour wouldn't be impartial in the subsequent referendum. Part of the problem is, as Gemmill said, the Tories and Lib Dems have very simple clear positions. Labour's position has not been in any way clear ever since the referendum and is continuing to be unclear into this election. There was program on BBC last week with some hairdresser from Wales moaning that she's pro-Brexit and would never vote Labour again. McDonnell was then asked about it and he had to toe the party line and waffle, offering absolutely nothing. If he was allowed to come out and say, 'I'm sorry she won't vote Labour but Remain is the best thing for our country' then they'd win votes that way. As it is they're trying to be all things to all men but coming across as nothing to nobody. Revoke is a nonsense, the Lib Dems can claim that position because they're essentially a single issue party with no chance of a majority but democratically it would be the wrong promise for Labour to make.

Corbyn's stance isn't that overly complicated. It's just that the public only understands Leave or Remain. What's worse is that the PLP, membership and voters are all largely remain. Corbyn and those at the top have simply refused to go remain because of their own personal views and/or stubborness.

Well it makes it much harder but I'm not sure if the Scots will forget how they've been treated by the British government over the last few years. They'd always gotten on so well before.

He said 'first term'.

I think the position now was the original Labour policy. He's just reverted back to it so more of a 360.

I think that seems fair enough. In the first year of a Labour government we'd have the re-negotiation with the EU and then a second referendum. To go from that and jump straight into a Scottish referendum doesn't seem reasonable.

This should be the story of the week. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/nov/14/ae-waiting-times-in-england-hit-worst-ever-level?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet

I've always said fuck the working class.

Aye, I think the Lib Dems are more likely to gain more from Tory remainers than Labour remainers tbf so it would not be a good look to be seen to be working with Corbyn.

You maybe didn’t watch til the end?

Anyway, yeah it would be generally accepted that if you're away for work and get delayed then it's either paid or given time off in lieu.

I'd rather see 130,000 innocent people die that you use one death for your party political purposes. Disgusting behaviour.

A woman has died, you cold hearted bastard.