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I used to do that. It's fun isn't it. I'm buckled up laughing.

I have questions and until I'm satisfied I'll continue to ask them and question them.

More than you could ever know.

Top picture.I'm having a serious issue with the steam generator. It's basically got a heated pipe inside it and that's supposed to super heat the water into steam is it, Whilst also being continuously filled with condensed water. It seem a stupid way to heat water into steam don't you think? It looks good, don't get me wrong. I also still have the issue with the 2 pipes running hot out of the sub whilst taking in cold at depth.

Not on the same day they don't.

I'm ok with fuel combustion. I'm fine with many aspects of science. I'm also fine with people working at nuclear power plants and believing that uranium metal somehow fissions a heats up for years and years on end . I'm absolutely fine with anybody thinking it works this way. I'm not fine with myself thinking this way because I honestly don't believe in this fissioning shit. So bearing all that in mind, I'm not about to accept it am I.

It's ok Gemmill, he can do it anyway he likes and I'll re draw it in crayon for you if that's how you prefer it. Just let me know.

Aye ok, cheers.

Nope.

I said it requires an atmosphere to vent it.

Let's take your pressure cooker analysis. The water in the pan heats up and as you rightly say, it builds up a pressure of steam. This is the supposed reactor right? Once the heat is built up, the pressure cookers valves goes, releasing steam into the air. In a reactor the pressure would be released towards the turbine, doing some work (spinning it), it is passing through on it's way to an outlet in which the turbine happens to be in the path of, so for the steam to get to the outlet, it has to negotiate the turbine blades and then passes through to a condenser which cools down the water to send back but not before it's vented into the atmosphere via the large stacks. Those plants without stacks are simply vented into the sea. Either way, something under pressure has to be vented to do any work like spinning a turbine and cannot be simply just a sealed unit. Take the safety valve off your pressure cooker and your pressure cooker will explode. If you wanted that pressure cooker to do some work as well as heating your food, you could ( if anyone was arsed that is) put a pipe on outlet at the top and attach the other end to a small turbine, turning it. No matter which way you look at it, it has to be vented somewhere down the line.

It's you that lacks it.

Keeping people in prison with luxuries is silly. Just as it's silly keeping people in prison with Victorian measures installed in this day and age would be silly. Give people luxury and you take away the deterrent for crime. Treat people like animals and you get exactly that, animals, which you have to control, not to mention zipping up masses of suicides on a weekly basis, I would think. Executing people can serve as a deterrent in one way and a problem in another. If a person is intent on committing murders, he/she will do it no matter what the consequences are because obviously they aren't in a level frame of mind if they are thinking on those lines in most cases, although there are some calculated people out there I suppose, yet some are so smug as to think they would get away with their crime irrespective of what consequences were upon them. For me, the best way to deal with prisoners who have a certain sentence, is to give them reasonable meals and access to newspapers and books as normal, whilst making them work paying for their own stay. Also, I think any sentence given out...say...someone getting 10 years..they go in knowing they do the 10 years but can reduce it a fraction each month with good behaviour, including not being caught with drugs. Prison is only a shock tactic these days for first offenders in many cases because after that, they know how easy the life is inside and it doesn't hold any fear for them , should they commit an offence again. This is where courts have to be careful about hitting people with the short sharp shock for stupid things that can easily be sorted with other tasks outside. The regular offenders who have sampled a few prison sentences are undeterred by going back, which gives them more scope to go and fuck someone's life up outside, knowing that even if they are given 10 years, they will be out in about 7 max.

Yes I've BOILED kettle and when it boils, steam comes out of the top.I've also used a pressure cooker which allows the water inside it to heat up WITHOUT boiling until the safety valve at the top blows open releasing STEAM. It does this because it's hitting ATMOSPHERE.

The whole point of heating water into steam is so the steam can do work. for example, run a turbine Allowing no venting at all means you get no steam, just heat as in a car engine. In a car engine your radiator keeps your engine from over heating by taking in air through the small grills, cooling it and sending it back round the engine. This is fine for keeping your engine at a safe temperature because the water is under pressure. It can do no more than keep the engine cool because to vent it....I.E...release the radiator cap, your water would boil away because it would immediately turn to steam. In a nuclear powered submarine, the purpose isn't just to keep a reactor from overheating under pressure, the purpose is to make that water turn turbines which can be done by venting the system, allowing steam to hit the blades at high pressure. Condensing is fine for cooling or keeping a safe temperature in a closed until but it still needs venting to turn turbine blades.

And how do you get a gaseous phase of water?

9/11 is a pit full of coincidences and ridiculous shit. In-fact there are so many it makes a mockery of the official story anyway. The Government just happen to be running the exact same terror drill on the very same day it happened. Larry Silverstein taking out insurance to cover a terrorist attack just months prior. Pentagon hit in the only place that was under renovation, being supposedly upgraded against a missile attack. Terrorist pilots with supposedly shit training and one that couldn't supposedly fly a Cessna manage to perform feats that seasoned pilots say is impossible. All pilots of all planes easily overcome by terrorists with stanley knives on all flights. One so called terrorist conveniently leaves his travel bag containing flight plans,the quaran and a book on how to fly a jet. The so called crash in Pennsylvania leaving a small crater with a few scraps of metal and a few items, one of which happens to be one of the bandana's the terrorist was wearing. A plane hits the wtc, goes right in and out pops one of the terrorists passport that floats down a few blocks away and lands in good nick. Terrorists with fake passports are immediately identified by their real names in lightning quick time. Two towers collapse to the ground into their own basement at free fall speed. Tower7, which was not hit by a fake plane, collapses into it's own basement later in the day, yet all other building that were severely damaged a 1000 times worse than tower 7, all stand. George Bush remembers seeing the first plane hit because he was watching the TV before he went into the school, yet the footage wasn't released until the next day after the Naudet brothers released the footage. The Naudet brothers just happened to be filming a documentary on fireman that day and were allowed access to the towers to film. Yeah right. Mark Bingham phones his Aunt and tell her that he's on a plane and it's been hijacked. His Aunt says his Mother is with her and would he like to speak to her?..He says yes, then says, hi Mum, this is MARK BINGHAM. His Mother is on the news just hours later telling them all about how her son fought the terrorists and what not. She also makes a point of mentioning that he phoned her from the AIRPHONE and not his cell phone. Obviously because there was a big stink about cell phone calls not working on flights in 2001. That's only 1% of the inconsistent shit about that day.

So you don't need any oxygen to make steam? Is this correct?

With the amount of unsecure convictions, how many innocent people could be executed. If the death penalty was going to be introduced, I'd say it would have to be on the admittance of the person from his own mouth in full view of independent witnesses,whilst looking fit to stand trial and not in any way shape or form looking drugged up to the eye balls.

Maybe eh.

And?

Whether it's outlandish to people, it isn't to me and I question things. If people don't question things then that's their prerogative. If people just question things that are basic question MOST people do, then I suppose what I question is gonna seem way out of scale and that's fair enough. It still doesn't change the fact that I do have questions on nuclear power and it's credibility. I'm not saying I'm correct, I could be wrong and magic does exist...but to pacify myself I'd like to at least remove some of the doubt I have over it which leaves me with no more questions. The same goes for anything I talk about. If we all just agreed on things, it would be one boring world.

Exactly. The whole point is a sealed unit, yet it has to run through a turbine to OUTSIDE air, even for a small period. It is still venting/exhausting.

Then don't take part. Nobody is forcing you.

Gemmill can use whatever words he feels is necessary. I'm falling for him anyway. Ok back to the point. I'm questioning nuclear power as in basically two pieces of super hard metal sitting close together that supposedly has the ability to heat up and glow like crazy. This stuff is supposedly so toxic in use and after it's spent that it has to be handled super carefully and under the strictest secrecy. All people involved in the actual maintenance and button pushing can be walking around believing they are dealing with exactly this, yet it could be (and in my mind, possibly is) something rather different. Maybe some know that it's not what it is made out to be... but they can't speak out because they will be ridiculed and would lose their jobs or whatever. What Rikko does, I don't exactly know as to what part he plays in the day to day life of a submarine or nuclear power station or whatever.