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It's you that doesn't grasp it Fish.

Sorry mate, I was in the middle of a big fart there. Anyway, I actually enjoyed the film , men in black, it was a canny film. Oh and there's no way I'm sending you pictures of me in address you saucy git.

I can give you a number of reasons...none of which you will accept but there you go. First of all, putting a man made craft through the atmosphere into space is impossible with what we have at the minute but even if we did have the means, the speed needed would tear any craft apart or burn it up. Now then...even getting into space, your rockets do not work in a vacuum and we have been through this. Plus all your components would burn out...plus your life support systems would be rendered useless and you would die. Not to mention the micrometeorites zooming at the craft at thousands of miles an hour, rendering the astronots and the ship as a holey target board. The radiation from the sun would fry anything up there as well, as there is no shielding to stop it.

Just goes to show you doesn't it. I've stopped you getting away with it, you evil N.A.S.A scientist you. MUWHAHAHAHAHA.

What was your question?

Asked for what?

Don;t pity me lad, just get on with your life, that's what you need to concentrate on sonny boy.

Fish. Out gunned am I. Nah, I'm not out gunned, I just simply have a group of people disagreeing with me, mainly you and Renton..the rest haven't really said much, only that I'm wrong. I could have a 1000 against me and my stance stays the same until someone actually makes me question my own thoughts which no one has managed to do. I stand firmly behind the fakery of space travel and satellites, Hubble, ISS and every other so called man made effort that we are told has been put in space because we simply cannot leave this Earth.

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Fish. We have all been brought up to accept space travel in all forms stated by N.A.S.A and the rest of the space agencies, plus scientists and most go along with that and believe it's impossible to fake shit like this in it's entirety. You are going on as if you are right and I'm wrong based on what you have been taught and told about space and not what you have personally seen. Anything you see in the sky is simply a whizzing blob of light but you are told it's the ISS and satellites , so why should you doubt it. Once upon a time, I believed it all until I delved into it all to find that we have been took for mugs. My stuff on space, is based on theory as I said before. I have my thoughts on what space is and what the Earth does in space and various other thoughts , just the same as you or anyone that takes an interest. You can sit there all day long and tell me I don't put anything forward and that's your prerogative, yet I know I've put enough forward that brings into question the entire space program which I think is a scam from top to bottom. Your analogies about petrol and stuff are way way off the mark as you can see and use and test it as it's there in front of you. Everything you are told about space comes via pictures, video and books which are all easily faked and manipulated to fit in with a criteria. I'm a sceptic, full on and I've gave you plenty of reasons why but I have nothing whatsoever to prove to you personally, you just go with whatever you go with. You tell me that I don;t put anything forward and then you proceed to put up 2 pictures ...one of a blob of light and a obscure picture of what I can only describe as looking like a toffee packet and yet you proudly say, look, look what's these then if the ISS isn't real. Normally I would have took it all as a piss take but I know you were serious when you put them up. You believe everything you are told and I don't, that's the difference here.

Aye, you've got me there Renton, you touched a nerve.

Two words. "Absolute truth" spot on. Theories...this is space science, all based on theories and other scientists pushing an alternative and so on, like you say. All of space science is THEORY, including mine. N.A.S.A make shit real easy because N.A.S.A are film makers and bullshit artists. My explanation to those that believe N.A.S.A shit , is more complicated but to me it's easy because I don;t follow N.A.S.A bull.

It's a bit pointless discussing anything with you, you seem to have an issue with peoples personal lives by basically guessing. If you get frustrated in a conversation, you immediately go into put down mode, then cry like a sissy when it doesn't work.

Space isn't magic, it's just N.A.S.A and the likes that make it like that.

Sorry for taking my time in answering, I was dusting myself down and rolling my cap around my fingers, feeling insecure. hahahaha. Have a word Renton son.

I ignored the first part because you are basically saying the same thing and now you are saying I think the particles are already hot, which I have never said. I'll put it in a nutshell for you. Particles are agitated and become hot and we feel the heat. It's like a microwave oven, it agitates the particles/molecules in your food. Particles are always there it's just that there's very few particles agitated when it's colder but they are still there against you , just not as agitated. In space, there is none of this at all, so no hot or cold. If you can't grasp this then fair enough but that's my point.

This is sup[posed to have been taken of the shuttle and the space station. This is how a fake can easily be made. This is supposed to be real. How people swallow this is seriously beyond me, honestly it is. t

A blob of light and a bag of assorted toffees is the space station. Oh ok then it must be real. Come on Fish man, if I posted up some pictures like that , you would be jumping up and down calling them fake..and rightly so because they're not only fake, they're pathetic fakes. Anyone who thinks that these two pictures are the space station, I truly feel sorry for.

Who is KSA and what's the name short for?

I love peanuts. Normal salted one's are my favourites and the dry roasted are my least favourite. The Chilli coated one's from Aldi are nice but you do end up with an arse like a Japanese flag mind.

To clarify the hot and cold, let's go back to the good old thermos flask. As we all know, we can put hot coffee in it or a cold liquid and it will stay cold for a great length of time. The reason why it loses it's heat or chill is simply because it's not quite a perfect vacuum and the reason for this is because the neck of the thermos meets at the top creating a bridge for heat to cool down to room temperature or the chilled drink to come up to room temperature, plus of course we have the stopper which adds to the release. If we could somehow take away the connecting neck and stopper and just keep it as a perfect vacuum, you could open that flask in 5 years time and drink your hot tea, in theory. The reason it would stay like that is because of the vacuum which is neither hot nor cold and is basically a nothing.

So what science is proven that I'm arguing against then?

Fish. I said cold is the absence of particles, I mean less agitated particles. On Earth this is true. In Space there are no particles or minutely...(going by what we are told about space mind you, which again is only guesswork by those that issue this shit ) so basically there is nothing in space...no hot, no cold, it's just space. Anything in space (discounting the SUN) for instance if hot, would stay hot and anything put in space that was cold, would stay cold. Anything warm would stay warm but space in itself is neither hot/warm or cold...it is nothing. Again, your ISS viewed through binoculars. Tell me exactly what you see through your binoculars Fish, what do you see?

Fish. The sightings are given to you aren't they. They are fed to you. What you see in that sky , is not the ISS. The ISS only exists in a large training pool designed to dupe us into believing they space walk. That's all this ISS is. Oh and there is no temperature in a perfect vacuum. Space is neither hot nor cold, it is nothing.

I can't follow any argument to a logical conclusion, just the same as you can't or anyone else, except those who perpetrate the actual events...it's those that can give a logical answer to any questions we might have. You cannot prove anything with verifiable evidence to me about anything I've said, you just believe you can because you simply say you can see this and that and do this and that, yet you can't. The fact that you say you can stand in a field and see the ISS is laughable it really is.