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Get a room man. For asking him where he lives? Get a room man oh dear. Comparing how I speak to Steve, to how you speak to The Fish or some of the other "Trent posse", you'll need a surgical removal of your cock from some of their arses. Here we go, I say one thing and he goes off on one like a girl.

Get a room man.

maybe he is, but what does that change ? The Halls couldn't wait to get rid, but Shepherd wanted to keep the club, yet you say it was in a bad state, why would he want to get rid of the club so much if he believed it was going downwards so fast ? As I've said, what you're saying is nothing other than your own chip on your shoulder which I don't understand why ? If anybody should have a chip on their shoulder here, its me and people my age who watched utter shite and a 2nd rate club for decades, then when we finally get a board who show ambition, we are now back to square one, and I'm 54, not 70 !!!!!! I know fine well how old you are. I was taking the piss. On what basis do you think I've got a chip on my shoulder btw? I think Shepherd was a cock-end but it's not down to some deep rooted greivance; it's just obvious he squandered opportunity and I'm perfectly entitled to that opinion.

The main point for me is that Hall put the money down while it was still a personal risk. Obviously he ultimately gained financially as history shows, but he wasn't clairvoyant. Shepherd's tenure was basically characterised by money flooding in in unprecedented amounts and him spending it. That only makes him look like a visionary compared to the current fat cunt who wont spend it, but in absolute terms it's hardly an achievement. As for his last 3 appointments, they speak for themselves. You show me one top club where that would have been allowed to happen. Shepherd's a fan of the club but he's a fan of Freddy Shepherd first so get it in perspective Leazes. He's still evidently bitter he had to sell to Ashley 'on the cheap'. Tough fucking shit; if you'd been better at your job Freddy you'd have got a better price for it. What fucking planet does he live on?

I hope that's not an Oscar Wilde reference for your sake Witters!

No bum gags please.

Not just in Dublin either going by those rosey cheeks.

Nah, meant completely seriously.

ie specific conversations with Leazes. Fair point tho.

Zip it Jonny Michele Jarre.

aye sure, he did. Everybody laughed at us when we rose from being a club with one foot in the 3rd division to playing europe and the champions league. According to people like you, Shepherd was the only chairman who ever made someone a laughing stock. This ridiculous thinking always makes me laugh. You've spent too long in Manchester, but they are like that down there. Get a backbone and ignore it, laugh back, or tell them to piss off. Poor show man. Not gonna rake over history but obviously it was SJH at the helm when we went from bottom of the 2nd back into the prem with Keegan. I realise Shepherd was involved with the club but it was Hall leveraging things on the financial side of things. That involved genuine risk and foresight. After that time the club had 'full houses' week in week out as Shepherd says-that and unprecedented TV money. He doesnt have any success to attribute that to though, or tangible success anyway so he's shooting himself in the foot. The Shepherd era had the sort of fan-financing of the club that only one or two clubs could better-but they all won things over that time and continue to do so now. The Toon is a one club city and during Shepherd's time it has had money hand over fist from the fans (and regularly, in advance of the product it's offering). Shepherd had millions upon millions of other people's money to spend as a chairman and he spent it. Robson spent it well for him (by and large) but I give him no credit for Robson's appointment -his other appointees then spent very badly by and large, and this was worse because we all largely suspected they would. After the Robson revival (no credit to Shepherd) came to an end and the club needed real direction from the top, we got Souness, Roeder and Allardyce. I'm not even going to waste my time on a critique of that sequence of inspired appointments. According to you though it's ok for a top level club to appoint a sequence of three proven spastics as manager. As to the rest of what you said about me being Mancunian etc etc I'm gonna largely ignore it because it's nowt more than you having a pop. I can handle that though it's water off a ducks back, if you don't think I've developped coping strategies after being a Newcastle fan living in Manchester for all 31 years of my life then you have a naivety that belies your 60 years. What I will say though is that i've never said Shepherd is the only chairman who ever made someone a laughing stock-he isn't, but that's hardly a defence of the man. Which is more though, I don't care about any other clubs or any other chairmen-Shepherd made a laughing stock of MY club. What I will also say (without apology) is that living outside of the Toon in the North West, you do get a practical and daily demonstration of how a club should be run on over a long term. I don't glory in that, it just makes certain things clearer to me. My view is also unpulluted by the fuckwit local press on Tyneside, which during Shepherd's era in particular became nowt more than his PR machine. At the end of the day you've been made to look daft on God knows how many occasions on this board, with your flawed defence of Shepherd-something which would be the source of embarrasment to anyone else of your 70 years. You have the brassneck to accuse me of having no backbone mate but it's you that routinely flounces off vowing never to return only to re-emerge a few months later hoping your past ignominies have been forgotten. Sad tbh. Shepherd is clearly bitter that he didn't make a bit more coin out of the sale of the club. He trots that line out every interview. Boo fucking hoo.

Btw the good football played under Shepherd was during the Robson period and Shepherd gets fuck all credit for that appointment. He wants to wind his fat-bastard-no-neck in.

You'd fucking hope so, the amount of money pumped into the club (not by him).

Shepherd turned us into a laughing stock and Ashley has built quickly on that legacy. End of.

I hope one day you get the help you need tbh.

Do you know what 'axiomatic' means?

What you just typed was devoid of sense. We've been over this already and I've explained why I'm not going to put the boot in anymore.

It just presents (what would seem to be) a beautifully simple solution to a problem. That's what appeals to me about the article. It comes as no galloping shock that your focus is instead on the part of the article that it is though-even where it's probably axiomatic to most if you can see what I mean.

see above.

It's just starting to feel a bit unethical tbh, Fop.

Nanny state tbh. Stop bleating

Judge will go easy on him as he's just a kid.

I've concluded he's probably mentally ill in some way though. It's hard to know what's fair criticism/justified lampooning of him anymore tbh.

I've worked with one of his brothers (Shane) to be sure, to be sure.

Just joshing mate. Welcome to our relegation binwagon!