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Nothing about the Ozone layer in that. Since the use of CFCs has been globally banned, the hole should recover, although it will take time. A classic example of how good science and political will power can prevent catastrophe. The hole in the ozone layer is presently only of concern to penguin dermatologists and their patients. go back to my original post, I wasn't talking about the ozone layer You said: You've repeated the connection several times since. And you have the hypocrisy to claim "greens" (whatever that umbrella term means) don't understand the science behind global warming, yet you somehow do, based on some very controversial viewpoints that were the subject of a Horizons program. I've never discussed anything with you but have you sussed I think. You're happy to pretend you're knowledgable in a subject, spout complete ungrounded nonsense, then just deny it when you are exposed for what you are. Hope HTT gets N-O up and running asap. all right I got the 2 things mixed up, but tbh I was going on a recolection of that program which was ages ago, and no I don't have a doctorate in global warming but unless you do, keep your childish insults to yourself My orignal point still stands that by decreasing pollution will actually make things worse. What is there in that article that you don't agree with? And don't give me any shit about the accepted opinion of science, a cursory knowledge knows it only takes 1 paper to change the entire body of scientific knowledge on a subject, often decades after the paper is published And also, on a minor point, as I also said, we have not repaired the layer (because it's impossible), it is repairing itself. As you rightly point out you have no knowledge of my background or experience, but if you want to get into a pissing contest I'll be happy to oblige Childish insults? Pointing out you were wrong on a VERY basic matter you mean? Basically, you have shown yourself to be completely ignorant on the subject of global warming. As such I don't think you have the ability to critically appraise that Horizon program or any other literature or media on the subject for that matter. Yet you still have the nerve to accuse "Greens" of not knowing what they are talking about. I'll know to avoid you in the future though, thanks for verifying that. gee I might cry could you fucking backtrack any faster? just say what you don't agree with in the article, or I'll get the University to take back your doctorate in climate change

I don't think any of us have said we LIKE IT on here. It was nobody's first choice Parky

It is a bit like talking to blind people in a dark room while you stand in a sunlit doorway. You've just proved his point tbh. It's a play on Nietzsche. I didn't realise that but you were basically saying how much cleverer than the rest of the people in the thread, no? No. I didn't want to get too invloved in it as it is a subject I already worry about too much. I have a daughter and I look at her sometimes and wonder what we've done to this beautiful planet and if there will be anything left for future generations etc.... This post brought to you by Disney. lovely mental picture of Parky trying to fight off a T-Rex with platitudes about the beautiful planet

Nothing about the Ozone layer in that. Since the use of CFCs has been globally banned, the hole should recover, although it will take time. A classic example of how good science and political will power can prevent catastrophe. The hole in the ozone layer is presently only of concern to penguin dermatologists and their patients. go back to my original post, I wasn't talking about the ozone layer You said: You've repeated the connection several times since. And you have the hypocrisy to claim "greens" (whatever that umbrella term means) don't understand the science behind global warming, yet you somehow do, based on some very controversial viewpoints that were the subject of a Horizons program. I've never discussed anything with you but have you sussed I think. You're happy to pretend you're knowledgable in a subject, spout complete ungrounded nonsense, then just deny it when you are exposed for what you are. Hope HTT gets N-O up and running asap. all right I got the 2 things mixed up, but tbh I was going on a recolection of that program which was ages ago, and no I don't have a doctorate in global warming but unless you do, keep your childish insults to yourself My orignal point still stands that by decreasing pollution will actually make things worse. What is there in that article that you don't agree with? And don't give me any shit about the accepted opinion of science, a cursory knowledge knows it only takes 1 paper to change the entire body of scientific knowledge on a subject, often decades after the paper is published And also, on a minor point, as I also said, we have not repaired the layer (because it's impossible), it is repairing itself. As you rightly point out you have no knowledge of my background or experience, but if you want to get into a pissing contest I'll be happy to oblige

tell us a joke then, that'll get things rocking

I haven't got anything to add to the thread as such, just to say you're patter is shite, and so is your craic that is all [/Alex/EmoBoy/ColaFizz]

Nothing about the Ozone layer in that. Since the use of CFCs has been globally banned, the hole should recover, although it will take time. A classic example of how good science and political will power can prevent catastrophe. The hole in the ozone layer is presently only of concern to penguin dermatologists and their patients. go back to my original post, I wasn't talking about the ozone layer

scientific papers bollocks another gem Parky Science can prove or disprove anything they want. Our planet is in danger and I know we all know. Fermat had science stumped for a while. If you believe Al Gore, Peer reviewed papers are pretty much 100% behind the theory that we're making things worse. Big business has a lot riding on the status quo, so you're going to get a lot of debunking. Basically what I said earlier. People are generally unaware of how much BB has riding on creating just enough doubt to ward of legislation that will cost money to impliment. go do some of your special brand of 'research' into what has already been legislated and what industry has already spent and your theory collapses as quick as Tower 7

found it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes...g_summary.shtml it made sense when I saw it. Make of it what you will

no, stay the same, or at least recognise that if pollution were ever to be erradicated (which won't happen anyway) without repairing the ozone layer (impossible) the percieved effects will be the reverse of the commonly held belief The Ozone layer has NOTHING to do with global warming, and is being successfully "cured" by the Montreal treaty. Keep up. the hole in the ozone layer lets high energy radiation in which is bounced around underneath a layer of pollution which causes global warming no?

scientific papers bollocks another gem Parky Science can prove or disprove anything they want seriously, stop it, you're killing me

I didn't see it but heard about it On the other hand there was an article in Scientific American a year or so back saying exactly the opposite We DO know how to fix the ozone layer and we are achieving it - since the BAS identified it back in the 60's it was decided to do sommat about CF's (and Mrs Thatcher was a big mover on this believe it or not). Since they were banned the hole has started to close again The trouble with science is that it rarely gives a simple answer and most peopel understand so little sciuence that they can't follow the arguments no Rob, we are not repairing it, it is returning naturally (ozone is produced by nature) as you say once the net destroyers of it (CFC's) etc were removed from the atmosphere, however, the rate at which it is replenishing is way short of what is needed if pollution were to be removed

no, stay the same, or at least recognise that if pollution were ever to be erradicated (which won't happen anyway) without repairing the ozone layer (impossible) the percieved effects will be the reverse of the commonly held belief

scientific papers bollocks another gem Parky

Tbf to Vic there has been an inordinate amount of posts telling us to piss off! aye wel we should stick then Parks this is aimed at twats like alex and the such who don't see the fucking irony about jumping into a 4 page thread with nonsensical statements about 'patter is shite' and other such wank non statements, I mean what does that even mean? What exactly is it you object to? Or as I suspect you haven't got a clue, you just get your jollies off the collective nob-rubbing sessions that result when the likes of emo boy jump in, and you simply don't see the fucking irony. I for one don't go round trolling your fucking history of history bollocks, but if you think that's good craic, I have the decency to leave you to it, now fuck off and kindly affordme the same accomodation Text book hissy-fit. Lots of swearing, very little sense. whats not to understand FFS?

Rob, did you ever see that Horizon where they had a scientist actually claiming we were in deeper shit than even the prevailiing CC scientists thought, whereby the heating of the planet should be much higher but is actually prevented by heavy pollutants suspended in cloud cover and contrail (suspended in water droplets) - he confirmed this in the days after 9/11 when contrails were removed from the equation. Anyway, the upshot of it was, if we remove the pollutants without repairing the ozone layer (which no-one has a clue how to do) we will actually heat up worse than if we stay as is but then again that science goes over the heads of most of the greens

Tbf to Vic there has been an inordinate amount of posts telling us to piss off! aye wel we should stick then Parks this is aimed at twats like alex and the such who don't see the fucking irony about jumping into a 4 page thread with nonsensical statements about 'patter is shite' and other such wank non statements, I mean what does that even mean? What exactly is it you object to? Or as I suspect you haven't got a clue, you just get your jollies off the collective nob-rubbing sessions that result when the likes of emo boy jump in, and you simply don't see the fucking irony. I for one don't go round trolling your fucking history of history bollocks, but if you think that's good craic, I have the decency to leave you to it, now fuck off and kindly affordme the same accomodation

Would you be trying to turn start a Toontastic v N-O slagging-fest to divert attention away from what a prick you come across as (on both boards) by any chance? just providing a place where you don't have to bother reading Alex, but failed already obviously

we have to stay here lads, so they can get on with posting about the history of history, cooking and the cola fizz bombs band logo keep on keepin on

aye we should leave it to the gifted song writers and the cola fizz bombs FFS you couldn't fucking make it up I tell you

silly Arabs I hope they get The Sun to sponsor the team

man that's some deep hatred that you have emo boy. Whay can't you just ba a happy boy? I for one think you're the biggest mincing waste of life on this board, but i'm not sad enough to follow your posts around like a little boy lost, you fucking tit you'll be pulling my pigtails next. Get over me. Hell, do everyone a favour and kill yourself. Then write a song about it.

who or what is a Tecato btw?

He's trapped her up there I tell thee...... she's not so fucking innocent I can tell you, a right filthy fucking mare and me flatmates a hooer too

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