McFaul

That's fine the temperature was the same for both teams, but we didn't get battered anyway. Hart's had a quiet afternoon. Did anyone notice Rooney say to his mate "FUCK! I'd have scored" when Milner missed the open goal.

We'll get beat in the Quarter Final, because we're far behind Spain and a few others, but the toon would beat Sweden and Ukraine never mind England.

Were you aware the temperature was 88 degrees fahrenheit? Our next two games are at 745 when it'll be much cooler, also Kiev is a lot colder than Donetsk. It'll make a big difference to the tempo the pasty English can play the game at. Parker looked like he was ganna die.

I think we should be proud of England yesterday considering all of the factors I've mentioned. We were better yesterday than we were against Ireland in 1990, and had a good tournament. Spain lost to Switzerland in their opening game of the last World Cup, and hung on against Chile in the next game. It's not about how you start it's about how you finish, you get in to a rhythm by game three. I think the media are right to praise everything, and as Parky said Sweden are no spring chickens, and Ukraine's three main men Sheva, Voronin and Tymoschuk are about 100 years between them, while we have youth on our side right round the park.

You're joking? We were playing against a team who have been together for 2 years, who are unbeaten in 22 games including victories over Brazil, England and Germany, playing with a largely new side, with a new way of playing, having played two games and had nine training sessions before the game in 88 degree heat?! I thought we were magnificent especially in the first half, we had a game plan to get a result and it worked restricting them to shots from outside the box. All of this being done without one of the best players in the world, because regardless what anyone says, that's what Rooney is. It's like Liverpool getting a draw at Old Trafford playing conservative football, but saying we're the worst of four sides because Cardiff v Boro was quite exciting. You'll see a more attacking side on Friday without the heat, and you'll see the difference.

We beat them in a friendly about 5 months ago, but we need to do it in competitive football too to get the monkey off our back. They're so poor, interesting that you use the word geriatric when of their best players is nearly 35 in Mellburg. Two of the worst sides I've seen at this level. The two strikers for Ukraine Sheva and Voronin, are testimonial level, certainly they should be against two proper sides like England and France.

Not sure which game you were watching but it wasn't the one on BBC. They had a 10 minute spell at the start of the second half where they put some passes together, the rest of the game they were very very poor. They're worse at keeping the ball than England and with people like Blackburn's Martin Olsen, it's no surprise. Easily one of the worst sides in the tournament, and as everyone keeps saying, we're going to be totally gutted if we don't beat these on Friday. I think Hansen made the point that despite the second half being exciting the quality was shite, and just how poor will Euro2016 be when you have 24 teams rather than 16, when you already have shite like these two. I made the comparison that if Euro2012 was the BPL, we'd be the toon and these two would be Bolton and WBA on twitter, almost to a man people commented that's extremely harsh on Bolton and WBA. Two desperate sides.

Woeful side, I'd be amazed if they go home with 1 point.

Same here. I think for me it's down to the fact no one givesus a chance, often when we're at our most dangerous. We're a nation of warriors, who are perhaps better in the Rocky Balboa role, than the Apollo Creed one. Fuck me that sounds sentimental but it's true.

Put Angleterre and merde in twitter search. All the french are saying we're shite.

Haha you were building up to that. England Team to play France Hart Johnson Terry Lescott Cole Milner Parker Gerrard Oxlade-Chamberlain Young Welbeck Pleasantly surprised Downing has been left on the bench for AOC. There's plenty pace from the three of them up front and wide.

If you won £71m on euromillions and got voted in a Europe wide poll as Europe's sexiest man, I doubt you'd feel too much excitement personally.

Patriotic double (mainly because the gulf isn't that great and we're a fair price at 5/2) England and Ukraine. The double is 15/2 I think that's a nice price.

"Well I was expecting a b word and a c word but not both together with french, Roy thoughts on John Terry's celebration..." "Well he's only saying what half the country is thinking so he is..."

I couldn't give a fuck if it's the worst game in history and John Terry scores a 95th minute winner, runs to the camera and starts shouting racial expletives personally. I mean it as well. People who want France to win should be deported.

Aye ADP same here, doesn't take much though. I love this song listen from 1:20 to 2:40 E N G L A N D the Bassetts awwsorts army... England and Britain have always been best as the underdog. We were big outsiders to defeat the krauts in WW2 but we were the only ones who fought for 6 years and were victorious, we weren't expected to win in 1966, we were 25/1 to win the World Cup in 1990 and would've been worthy champions, so I like being underdogs. When we do shit no one can say the arrogant English thought they'd win it, we'll "go dahn theyah and av a faakin goww" as 'Arry might say.

Who the fuck would get a Dunlop Dodgems tattoo??!?

It's a symbolic myth he knew about though.

Thought Ireland were embarrassing myself. It was like Brazil against someone like North Korea. Obviously Ireland don't have a huge pool of players but Croatia is a smaller country than EIRE, was an embarrassment and they looked like a relegation battling Championship team. The midfield of Ward and Andrews speaks for itself, but Keane is finished too, Walters is shit, I don't know why they didn't take Best he's better than all those front players. Newcastle would beat Ireland 4-0. They'll definitely not make a re-make of The Van surrounding Euro 2012. Thought Steven Gerrard demonstrated a touch of class in that press conference last night like. French journalist asked why England should be ranked as a top footballing nation, seeing as we've won fuck all since 1966. Gerrard retorted by showing the V sign, a reference to when we battered the cunts at Agincourt, the french used to cut the index fingers of prisoners off, hardly Einstein, but how many footballers would have known that. I bet "yeah ye know" Andy Cole, or John Terry wouldn't have known that. France are unbeaten in 21, but Ireland were in 15, it's more than a forlorn hope we have tonight. Regardless what people say, we have good players, genuinely good players. Maybe not as good as Spain or Holland, but anything could happen tonight.

Maybe it's connected with his suicide. £1.3m. He played for biggish clubs for 20 years. I bet he was on 20k a week here alone.

First half was the worst of the tournament. Second the pace picked up a bit for 20 minutes and that was it. Hopefully Ireland will be more entertaining I'm not holding me breath though.

Haha caants. Win some you lose some. Howay Ireland.

Win some you lose some. Torres is a joke footballer now never seen a footballers career nosedive as quickly as this. He could've realistically scored a hattick, no composure. Shit game though, but Spain lost their opening game of the World Cup and look what happened. Still favourites I think. Whatever happens we need to avoid them in the Quarter Final. Xabi Alonso was very poor by his standards as was Busquets. On to Ireland now would be great if they can qualify and play us in the QF.

To be fair it won't be no more unbelievable than Greece winning it like. When you look at Trapattoni's CV, it's more or less the best management CV I've ever seen. Fair enough Mourinho has been amazing in a very short space of time and obviously SAF, but he did it with one club, Trapattoni's done it for 40 years all over the place.

I think dyslexia must be kicking in with my age here like. I've been reading David Silva as David Villa.