indigo 0 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 (edited) it would be better if he could do it by democratic means and not by holding mass rallies, breaking contracts etc etc More Mussolini than Lee Kwan Yew I'm afraid Sorry, but that's bollocks Rob, 7 elections/referendums since 1998 proves that, as you will be aware, the UK has had 3 since 1997. An ongoing political crisis in Venezuela culminated in August 2004, when Venezuelans went to the polls to decide whether to keep or dismiss President Hugo Chavez, who subsequently won 59 percent of the vote and whose term ends in December 2006. For two years before the vote, the Organization of American States and The Carter Center worked with the government and the opposition to help resolve issues between them, including terms for a presidential recall referendum. Since June 2002, the Center supported the efforts of the OAS secretary general to facilitate dialogue and worked at the highest political levels as well as intermediate social levels toward reconciliation and peaceful resolution of conflicts in Venezuela. After a May 2003 agreement between the government and opposition pledging to work toward a peaceful resolution, the Center, together with the OAS, observed all the steps leading to the referendum, including the collection of signatures to petition for a referendum, the verification of signatures, and the referendum vote itself. On Feb. 25, 2005, The Carter Center released its final comprehensive report of its observation mission for the presidential recall referendum in Venezuela since November 2003 and a separate report on its efforts to provide facilitation, mediation, and reconciliation in Venezuela since June 2002. The observation mission report includes additional studies conducted by the Center in light of allegations of electronic vote fraud and the findings of an independent panel of statisticians and computer security experts who reviewed the allegations but found no evidence of such fraud, confirming the Center's conclusions. Source: http://www.cartercenter.org/news/documents/doc2023.html Edited January 19, 2007 by indigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Wor lass was pointing out the similarity in the ending of "The Last King of Scotland" with "Year of Living Dangerously" In both a cocky white bloke gets way out of his depth in Third World politics, gets beaten to a pulp and just escapes on a plane atthe end and a worthy local - the doctor in LKoS and his PKI ofice assistant in YoLD - are left to be killed by the local govt. and neither white guy is a hero - they're actually rather unpleasant little shits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta_Toon 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I do like a bloke who spends money on Migs for the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 but the British Medical Association probably defend the gifts of open topped Mercs to doctors just out of training.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36183 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Wor lass was pointing out the similarity in the ending of "The Last King of Scotland" with "Year of Living Dangerously" In both a cocky white bloke gets way out of his depth in Third World politics, gets beaten to a pulp and just escapes on a plane atthe end and a worthy local - the doctor in LKoS and his PKI ofice assistant in YoLD - are left to be killed by the local govt. and neither white guy is a hero - they're actually rather unpleasant little shits Rob spoiling two movies in one post there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 woops.................. tho year of living dangerously HAS been out for about 20 years...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 woops.................. tho year of living dangerously HAS been out for about 20 years...................... Mel Gibson isn't it? Quite good iirc. Haven't seen it for years though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Gibson, Sigourney Weaver, Bill kerr and Linda Hunt - who got Best Supporting Actress in 1983 for playing Billy Kwan It was quite realistic - I knew a guy who'd lived thru that period in jakarta and he reckoned it was bang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 it would be better if he could do it by democratic means and not by holding mass rallies, breaking contracts etc etc More Mussolini than Lee Kwan Yew I'm afraid Pissing on your own bonfire there, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 it would be better if he could do it by democratic means and not by holding mass rallies, breaking contracts etc etc More Mussolini than Lee Kwan Yew I'm afraid Pissing on your own bonfire there, Rob. que??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Gibson, Sigourney Weaver, Bill kerr and Linda Hunt - who got Best Supporting Actress in 1983 for playing Billy Kwan It was quite realistic - I knew a guy who'd lived thru that period in jakarta and he reckoned it was bang on It was on 1 Xmas, at least 15 years ago. Might have to give it another watch. Great name for a film anarl imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 it would be better if he could do it by democratic means and not by holding mass rallies, breaking contracts etc etc More Mussolini than Lee Kwan Yew I'm afraid Pissing on your own bonfire there, Rob. que??? He gained power by democratic means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 so did A Hitler IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Gibson, Sigourney Weaver, Bill kerr and Linda Hunt - who got Best Supporting Actress in 1983 for playing Billy Kwan It was quite realistic - I knew a guy who'd lived thru that period in jakarta and he reckoned it was bang on It was on 1 Xmas, at least 15 years ago. Might have to give it another watch. Great name for a film anarl imo. a couple of years ago it was on BBC2 one night and Channel 4 the next - and the Times gave it completely different writeups for each one - th effirst was "marvellous atmospheric film etc etc" and the next one was "overblown Mel Gibson......" The name is from the book - the film stays very very close to it - but it was shot in Manilla and so is nowhere near crowded enough in the street scenes. If you were ever going to java I'd say it would be a very useful introduction............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 so did A Hitler IIRC Aye, but after 9 years in office Hitler had already started a mass cull of certain ethnic minorities and a World War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Lacking in ambition is Charvez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigo 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 so did A Hitler IIRC That's fighting talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 yesterday he announced he was nationalising a teleom company "but we will not pay the international price - we wil nationalise it first and then discuss the price we will pay" not surprisingly the Stock Exchange is in free fall and any Venzualan business has stopped investing it all sounds great yelled from a platform but in the real world these decisions bite you in the bum eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3323 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 yesterday he announced he was nationalising a teleom company "but we will not pay the international price - we wil nationalise it first and then discuss the price we will pay" not surprisingly the Stock Exchange is in free fall and any Venzualan business has stopped investing it all sounds great yelled from a platform but in the real world these decisions bite you in the bum eventually Capitalism over rated in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 booking a ticket to N Korea soon then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigo 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 yesterday he announced he was nationalising a teleom company "but we will not pay the international price - we wil nationalise it first and then discuss the price we will pay" not surprisingly the Stock Exchange is in free fall and any Venzualan business has stopped investing it all sounds great yelled from a platform but in the real world these decisions bite you in the bum eventually Worked out pretty well for the UK, they can flog them off for billions a few years down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3323 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 booking a ticket to N Korea soon then? No think I would prefer Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 booking a ticket to N Korea soon then? No think I would prefer Cuba. thats going to be sold back to the yanks once fidel pops his sandals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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