Park Life 71 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) By News Editor Declan Wilkes "The Metropolitan Police are set to racially profile gig goers by asking promoters to fill out a form on what acts are playing and what ethnicities are likely to turn up. Form 696 compels licensees who want to hold live music events in 21 London Boroughs to report to the names, addresses, aliases and telephone numbers of performers, and controversially, the likely ethnicity of their audience. Failure to comply with the eight page long form could result in fines or imprisonment. It was quietly introduced in 2006 but is now coming under legal attack as its use may be extended. 'Targets black music' Fergal Sharkey, the head of umbrella group UK Music, which campaigns for musicians, is set to deliver a judicial review into whether local authorities can make the 'Risk Assessment' form part of a publicans licence application. In a letter to the former Met chief Sir Ian Blair he wrote: "In explicitly singling out performances and musical styles favoured by the black community we believe the use of Risk Assessment Form 696 is disproportionate, unacceptable and damaging to live music." The form has been referred to the Equality and Human Rights Commission as the initiative may unfairly target black and Asian youths. The form asks if the night is "bashment? R'n'B? Garage?" Another question states "Is there a particular ethnic group attending?" http://www.thelondondailynews.com/racially...out-p-1896.html Edited December 3, 2008 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccermom 0 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 By News Editor Declan Wilkes "The Metropolitan Police are set to racially profile gig goers by asking promoters to fill out a form on what acts are playing and what ethnicities are likely to turn up. Form 696 compels licensees who want to hold live music events in 21 London Boroughs to report to the names, addresses, aliases and telephone numbers of performers, and controversially, the likely ethnicity of their audience. Failure to comply with the eight page long form could result in fines or imprisonment. It was quietly introduced in 2006 but is now coming under legal attack as its use may be extended. 'Targets black music' Fergal Sharkey, the head of umbrella group UK Music, which campaigns for musicians, is set to deliver a judicial review into whether local authorities can make the 'Risk Assessment' form part of a publicans licence application. In a letter to the former Met chief Sir Ian Blair he wrote: "In explicitly singling out performances and musical styles favoured by the black community we believe the use of Risk Assessment Form 696 is disproportionate, unacceptable and damaging to live music." The form has been referred to the Equality and Human Rights Commission as the initiative may unfairly target black and Asian youths. The form asks if the night is "bashment? R'n'B? Garage?" Another question states "Is there a particular ethnic group attending?" http://www.thelondondailynews.com/racially...out-p-1896.html FFS, somebody musta needed a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Bit racialist to assume it's to target blacks. Might be to keep track of the likes of this twats fans... Edited December 3, 2008 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 *Starts Muslim Grindie band* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 Bit racialist to assume it's to target blacks. Might be to keep track of the likes of this twats fans... Haven't read all of it, but I guess it means some bands won't be given licenses to play live etc.. Wtf is going on??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 *Starts Muslim Grindie band* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4355 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 It's usually pretty obvious anyway - why would they need to ask? I have to say I always just shrug when there's another shooting/knifing at some hip hop/rap/R&B gig - it's sad but reflects the culture of London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 It's usually pretty obvious anyway - why would they need to ask? I have to say I always just shrug when there's another shooting/knifing at some hip hop/rap/R&B gig - it's sad but reflects the culture of London. It's about not gibbing da license......Surely? SOON v SOON...."It's coming like a Ghost Town"...etc...etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13760 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I once got "randomly" searched at a gig once for knives because I was wearing a hoodie so I, for one, am glad to see that they're targetting others meaning I can sneak my instruments of death in unhindered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 I once got "randomly" searched at a gig once for knives because I was wearing a hoodie so I, for one, am glad to see that they're targetting others meaning I can sneak my instruments of death in unhindered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 'Fergal Sharkey' btw in the context of this thread. You couldnt make it up etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 'Fergal Sharkey' btw in the context of this thread. You couldnt make it up etc etc. Fucking hell man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 One has to ask why they want to know so much about the actual musicians themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 "remembers the security guard who got into the mosh pit for rage against the machine - killing in the name of"think its on youtube if you look for rage Oxegen guard, you just seen this loan hi-vis jacket disappearing under a sea of people lol stupid headline maker this, why don't they have a bash at picking people up for drugs at a dance style gig, be a lot easier. i'd say the areas gigs are held in has a bigger influence than who is attending them tbh Aye, because they've never targetted dance venues before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 "remembers the security guard who got into the mosh pit for rage against the machine - killing in the name of"think its on youtube if you look for rage Oxegen guard, you just seen this loan hi-vis jacket disappearing under a sea of people lol stupid headline maker this, why don't they have a bash at picking people up for drugs at a dance style gig, be a lot easier. i'd say the areas gigs are held in has a bigger influence than who is attending them tbh Aye, because they've never targetted dance venues before. more likely to be successful again though than racially profiling an RnB gig What in gods name are they upto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 "remembers the security guard who got into the mosh pit for rage against the machine - killing in the name of"think its on youtube if you look for rage Oxegen guard, you just seen this loan hi-vis jacket disappearing under a sea of people lol stupid headline maker this, why don't they have a bash at picking people up for drugs at a dance style gig, be a lot easier. i'd say the areas gigs are held in has a bigger influence than who is attending them tbh Aye, because they've never targetted dance venues before. more likely to be successful again though than racially profiling an RnB gig I wouldn't say I agree with what they're doing here Ant but information gathering is a totally different thing to busting clubs for drugs. Also, when the rave movement first started right through to when the dance scene was at its peak, clubs, raves and all-nighters and so on were continually targetted by the authorities, whether that be by raids or legislation. Now it's pretty much on its arse, has gone underground again and, apparently, is no longer considered a threat by the powers that be. I would imagine drug consumption hasn't changed all that much but people are doing it in different locations to what they were, say 10 years ago. Not that I think there's much point in criminalising young people who aren't doing a great deal of harm (at least to others). Plus, the police have enough to do with piss-heads in city centres across the UK on a weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 "remembers the security guard who got into the mosh pit for rage against the machine - killing in the name of"think its on youtube if you look for rage Oxegen guard, you just seen this loan hi-vis jacket disappearing under a sea of people lol stupid headline maker this, why don't they have a bash at picking people up for drugs at a dance style gig, be a lot easier. i'd say the areas gigs are held in has a bigger influence than who is attending them tbh Aye, because they've never targetted dance venues before. more likely to be successful again though than racially profiling an RnB gig What in gods name are they upto? Seems completely pointless like. And I thought they were always moaning about excessive red tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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