Rob W 0 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Nasty..... but flying a Tu-154 into a Russian airport in the fog ...... very risky......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35362 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawan 0 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8613165.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share Posted April 11, 2010 Sounds as if he was desperate to get in and "ducked" under the flight path looking for the ground..... and found it Happens all the time to light aircraft in the USA but it's pretty rare for a jet these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 The entire Polish leadership wiped out after telling the IMF to fuck off.....Hmmmm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share Posted April 11, 2010 they didn't go into recession so they never needed the IMF and the story at lunch time is that the Polish President threw a real hissy fit last year when he wasn't delivered to his destination in Georgia by the pilot.................... Take it from me Parky, a pilot under pressure is much more lethal than organised crime or the CIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) they didn't go into recession so they never needed the IMF and the story at lunch time is that the Polish President threw a real hissy fit last year when he wasn't delivered to his destination in Georgia by the pilot.................... Take it from me Parky, a pilot under pressure is much more lethal than organised crime or the CIA There is the list this is it: Said no to the IMF when offerred cheap loans. Declined Euro Zone till 2015 Only country in Europe not to buy H1N1 vaccine. In talks with Usa to put missile shield in place. Was getting ready to devalue currency to increase trade. = Death to leadership. We have never been at war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia. Edited April 12, 2010 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 you sure about that? It's your anti-Stein hoof showing again comrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 you sure about that? It's your anti-Stein hoof showing again comrade Nah it was the Ruskies this time IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3993 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 you sure about that? It's your anti-Stein hoof showing again comrade Nah it was the Ruskies this time IMO. So on the way to a memorial to acknowledge the massacre of Polish leaders of one kind by the Russians, the current Polish leaders were wiped out by the Russians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 you sure about that? It's your anti-Stein hoof showing again comrade Nah it was the Ruskies this time IMO. So on the way to a memorial to acknowledge the massacre of Polish leaders of one kind by the Russians, the current Polish leaders were wiped out by the Russians? They love to roll like that..These events are like inside jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9191 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 No one else getting a King Ralph vibe to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 GDP real growth rates for 2009.... Just noticed Poland are alone in the northern hemisphere for avoiding the crisis. The Polish leader was blatantly making the leaders of every other northern hemisphere nation look like idiots. He had to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 (edited) Exacetedly. They did and were doing a number of things as I mentioned earlier, which made them super-competitive and strangely acting like a soverign country...MUST BE DESTROYED!!11 It was deemed intolerable that they didn't want more EU voodoo till 2015, that was as good a death warrant as there is. The EU is another top down elitist bueaurcracy which is self-serving and more out of the reach of democratic tools. WE NEED TO GET OUT. It is a myth that we benefit from it, far from it we lose money cause we're in it. Billions are wasted by this supra-tier of meddling by the pen pushing classes. Poland resisting 'coronation' of EU Council president In this section » ARTHUR BEESLEY in Brussels EU LEADERS remain deadlocked over the nomination of the first full-time president of the European Council as former Soviet bloc states resist a “coronation” of Belgian prime minister Herman Van Rompuy. Mr Van Rompuy emerged as a leading compromise candidate last week following the Socialist group’s rejection of former British prime minister Tony Blair and French and British resistance to Jean-Claude Juncker, Luxembourg’s long-serving prime minister. Other mattters.. "With about three-quarters of Polish banking assets now foreign-owned, it will keep two big state banks under Polish control, partly to finance projects and sectors favoured by the government. It may scrap talks with a UK group for control of the Gdansk Refinery, Poland's second largest oil concern, and merge it with PKN Orlen, the country's leading refiner - possibly as soon as this week. From telecommunications to insurance, it is the same story. Poland, which is hosting this week's U.N. climate talks, joined forces with Italy and threatened to veto the European Union's climate and energy package last year, arguing it could not afford to meet its requirements. Germany, some of whose companies have a financial stake in Poland's utility sector, has been a key ally. The goal of the EU is to destroy the EU. War is peace. Edited April 17, 2010 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 big book - really boring movie 'naalll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk is set to seal a key gas deal with Russia’s Gazprom days after the death of opponents to the contract — including Polish President Lech Kaczynski — in a mysterious plane crash in Smolensk, Russia, reports Polskaweb. Under the contract worth an estimated 100 billion dollars – the biggest business deal in the history of Poland – Poland is to increase its imports of Russian gas. The contract to buy gas from Gazprom until 2037 will make Poland 100% dependent on Russian gas for the next 28 years in spite of the announcement of the discovery of huge gas reserves in Poland in April just before the memorial service in Katyn, Smolensk. Poland could have 3 trillion cubic metres of reserves of shale gas, enough to satisfy domestic demand for more than 200 years. Europe’s gas reserves could jump 47% as a result of Poland’s gas reserves, according to the Russian newspaper Kommersant. Poland currently consumes 14bn cubic metres of gas a year and imports more than 70% of it from Russia. The development of its own shale gas deposits could have allowed Poland to satisfy all its gas needs, and even export ga, becoming a competitor to Gazprom. Shale gas already accounts for up to 20% of US natural gas production. President Lech Kaczynski and many other opposition party politicians, who were killed in a plane crash in Smolensk, had opposed the Gazprom deal. Earlier this year, Russian energy giant Gazprom and Polish gas monopoly, PGNiG, signed agreements extending gas deliveries until 2045. Under one of the agreements, Gazprom gas supplies to Poland will increase from 8 to 11 billion cubic meters per year and the current agreement will be extended by 15 years, through 2037. But the deal was put on ice after the opposition party had threatened legal action over the contract which was so disadvantageous to Poland’s economic and energy interests, alleging „lobbying“ (bribery?). Kaczynski said that he was „deeply worried“ about the contract which would have made Poland even more dependent on Russian gas for 28 years. It was also argued that Poland already had a contract with Russia until 2022, and there was no need to rush into a 30 year contract. In addition, customers in Germany could face higher gas prices because of an expansion of Gazprom’s and PGNiG’s monopoly of the production and transport of gas. US energy companies such as Exxon have also been given generous incentives by Tusk to develop the shale gas reserves – when Polish companies could use the new technology. A verbal agreement between Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and was struck at the Katyn memorial service in Smolensk just days before the death of Kaczynski and other opponents to the deal, and formal documents are soon to be signed, says Polskaweb, asking whether Kaczynski was murdered over the gas. Gazprom has also just begun construction on the Nord Stream pipeline, designed to pump Russian natural gas to Europe and running through the territorial waters of Finland, Sweden, Denmark and Germany. It is easy to see how Gazprom, Exxon and other energy companies could benefit from removing the main obstacles to their exploitation of the gas reserves in an engineered plane crash, though investigations have yet to be concluded and are unlikely to yield results as they are in the hands of Russian and also Polish prosecutors widely believed to be in the hands of the government. The sound of four gun shots on a video suggest members of the crew of the crashed plane were murdered. The same video was shown, however, on Russian TV shortly after the accident without shots, raising questions about which version of the video is authentic. This is the video of the gunshots with translations etc: It has also emerged the allegedly dead pilot stopped Kaczysnki from flying to an EU summit in Brussels by reporting sick at short notice. No trace of the dead pilot’s body has been found at the scene of the crash. It has been speculated another pilot was in the plane. This raises questions about which voices are on the black box and whether the voices are authentic or not. Photos posted by Polskaweb show the sun shining on Smolensk airfield just 40 minutes before the crash, which was allegedly due to dense fog. Photos taken one hour later show the runway lamps being changed – also in sunny conditions." Pilot was fluent in Russian btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 "in spite of the announcement of the discovery of huge gas reserves in Poland in April" - you mean al oad of companies saying they're thinking of looking for gas in Poland "The sound of four gun shots on a video suggest members of the crew of the crashed plane were murdered. " what video is this then?? On the plane or was it so Hidef it was picked up on the ground as the plane flew over?????? "US energy companies such as Exxon have also been given generous incentives by Tusk to develop the shale gas reserves – when Polish companies could use the new technology." There's not a single company in Yurop who knows anything worthwhile about shale gas technology - there are only 2-4 rigs in the whole of Europe capable of drilling shale gas wells and maybe 1 fraccing unit - in Texas there ar 4000 rigs and about 800 fraccing units alone the Poles couldn't find oil or gas in a petrol station TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 "in spite of the announcement of the discovery of huge gas reserves in Poland in April" - you mean al oad of companies saying they're thinking of looking for gas in Poland "The sound of four gun shots on a video suggest members of the crew of the crashed plane were murdered. " what video is this then?? On the plane or was it so Hidef it was picked up on the ground as the plane flew over?????? "US energy companies such as Exxon have also been given generous incentives by Tusk to develop the shale gas reserves – when Polish companies could use the new technology." There's not a single company in Yurop who knows anything worthwhile about shale gas technology - there are only 2-4 rigs in the whole of Europe capable of drilling shale gas wells and maybe 1 fraccing unit - in Texas there ar 4000 rigs and about 800 fraccing units alone the Poles couldn't find oil or gas in a petrol station TBH Love the way you fell for the initial misinformation ie 'Pilot didn't speak Russian' and now suddenly you're an expert on Polands affairs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 well I 'll always bow to a Jorman on that subject......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Non-crew members were in the cockpit of a plane that crashed killing the Polish president and more than 90 others, an investigation has found. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/10125435.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Told ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 aye it was the Head of the Polish Air Force.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 aye it was the Head of the Polish Air Force.................... WHO ARE YOU? WHO DO YOU WORK FOR? SOMETHING IS GOING ON!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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