Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[wykikitoon 28577]

6 minutes ago, strawb said:

Rather have a pint with Bruce than Klopp, Bruce would get all the drinks free cos he knows the owner and end up in a lock in.
 

Klopp would expect you to pay for his red wine, tell him how great he is and talk about fucking liverpool all night. The toothy cunt

[aimaad22 6009]

1 hour ago, LondonBlue said:

 

fair enough. is that also the case when auditing a company that is accused of fraud?

 

 

They can't assume that when UEFA and others are struggling to prove anything right? Imagine a EY/KPMG partner walking up to the City board with all their connections, and saying "Erm, you're in the news for being dodgy, so we're going to conduct a forensic investigation and charge you a couple of extra mil this year". Completely unfathomable even for lower profile companies than City and it's owners. 

 

Most large companies have a number of open cases they're fighting at any given time, auditors give them a cursory glance to the extent they are likely to affect the financial statements. That's mainly it.

 

Let's say the situation was more clear cut, with City fined and being looked into by government authorities, in that case the firm would have protocols based on risk, from withdrawing completely to amending scope and limiting liability to cover their arses. Very rare.  

[aimaad22 6009]

Chelsea btw  I was just thinking the other day that they could be a problem for us next season too if they're smart in the summer window. This is a brilliant move and hopefully resets the progress of the last 6 months, 

 

Please please let Slot be a clown too. Can't wait for next season  

[Andrew 7487]

4 hours ago, ackas said:

 

Trips really shouldn't be anywhere near that squad.
He's got more in common with Henderson and Rashford.
 

 

 

 

[Gemmill 63322]

 

 

Merson giving his thoughts with slavvers on his jumper. 

 

 

[ackas 311]

12 hours ago, Andrew said:

 

 

 

 

Second half of the season Trips is nowhere near first half of the season Trips.

[Dazzler 16218]

14 minutes ago, ackas said:

 

Second half of the season Trips is nowhere near first half of the season Trips.

 

A combination of getting caught rifling boilers in the vermont and getting tapped up by Bayern Munich plus a pretendy calf injury so he can attend marriage counselling.

[LondonBlue 1141]

16 hours ago, Isegrim said:

I think I covered this before but it does still not look very good for City that they didn’t win the UEFA case because they actually could prove not having done anything wrong but the case got list in legal technicalities and formal stuff so that in the end time was running out. Actually not too dissimilar what Trump is trying to achieve at the moment and how some FIFA officials as well as German officials got away with crimes related to the WC in 2006.

 

with all due respect as i'm on your forum, but that's misinformed bollocks

 

If you are saying that we couldn't prove that we didn't cheat? Thats not our job. It's UEFAs job to show that we did cheat.

 

Essentially City put forward a legitimate set of accounts. UEFA essentially said the accounts were lies. CAS looked at UEFAs case and said there is no evidence of wrong doing. Case thrown out. It really was that simple. 

 

Time plays no part when there is no evidence. UEFA presented no evidence for the time barred charges and no evidence for the time, er, not-barred charges.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[PaddockLad 22520]

 

 

[LondonBlue 1141]

15 hours ago, aimaad22 said:

 

They can't assume that when UEFA and others are struggling to prove anything right? Imagine a EY/KPMG partner walking up to the City board with all their connections, and saying "Erm, you're in the news for being dodgy, so we're going to conduct a forensic investigation and charge you a couple of extra mil this year". Completely unfathomable even for lower profile companies than City and it's owners. 

 

Most large companies have a number of open cases they're fighting at any given time, auditors give them a cursory glance to the extent they are likely to affect the financial statements. That's mainly it.

 

Let's say the situation was more clear cut, with City fined and being looked into by government authorities, in that case the firm would have protocols based on risk, from withdrawing completely to amending scope and limiting liability to cover their arses. Very rare.  

 

I get that. I do. Along similar lines I used to do equity work. When you're looking at an oil that straddles boundaries deciding what percentage belongs to whom is worth many millions. So if we didn't maximise our clients percentage they don't come back. But there are limits to how far you can go given that ultimately your reputation is on the line too.

 

 

 

You're entitled to your view on this specific case of course, but i personally don't believe that those companies are going to risk there reputations for little old city.

 

I also don't believe that an investment company like silverlake would have bought in if their due diligence on these charges didn't show that city are above board.

 

there are other considerations too. khaldoon, for instance, has a reputation to uphold. he isn't going to oversee dodgy deals to the tune of a few million at city and risk jeopardising his standing with world leaders and world business leaders via mubadala  ( His Excellency Khaldoon Khalifa Al Mubarak | Mubadala ). CFG is worth millions, Mubadala is worth billions. 

 

 

 

 

[PaddockLad 22520]

Furthermore…  Frankie Boyle

 

 

 

 

[ewerk 39295]

Antti Niemi at the end  

[Gemmill 63322]

 

 

 

Binning Poch and replacing him with Kompany would be (do the next bit in a Kenny Everett American accent) SO TODD BOEHLY! 

 

Also wtf are Bayern sniffing around Kompany for? 

 

[ewerk 39295]

Because everyone in world football aside from Steve Bruce has knocked them back.

[Gemmill 63322]

Seems like they've treated Tommy Toucher pretty shabbily

[Dazzler 16218]

16 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Because everyone in world football aside from Steve Bruce has knocked them back.

There were rumours they were in for Howe and he knocked them back because we're fucking massive.

 

Also, I think they wanted Tuchel to stay (again from random rumours), but he was after getting his massive forehead clean out of dodge.

[Ayatollah Hermione 17238]

21 hours ago, PaddockLad said:

I got the point, just thought I’d try and drag you back into reality rather than the warm-take hypothetical nonsense land you tend to reside in 

[PaddockLad 22520]

20 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

I got the point, just thought I’d try and drag you back into reality rather than the warm-take hypothetical nonsense land you tend to reside in 

AND VERY FUCKIN HAPPY I AM THERE TOO ☺️

[Isegrim 11896]

8 hours ago, LondonBlue said:

 

with all due respect as i'm on your forum, but that's misinformed bollocks

 

If you are saying that we couldn't prove that we didn't cheat? Thats not our job. It's UEFAs job to show that we did cheat.

 

Essentially City put forward a legitimate set of accounts. UEFA essentially said the accounts were lies. CAS looked at UEFAs case and said there is no evidence of wrong doing. Case thrown out. It really was that simple. 

 

Time plays no part when there is no evidence. UEFA presented no evidence for the time barred charges and no evidence for the time, er, not-barred charges.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am not going to get involved in an argument especially concerning legal stuff and as you totally twisted what I actually said.

[Guest MrRaspberryJam]

Vincent Kompany new Bayern boss. Bellamy as assistant?! 😀

[Howmanheyman 43980]

Six Serie A teams in the CL next season I think? Roma sneak in because of Atalanta win the Europa league. 

[toonotl 4698]

Am I missing something? Why is Vincent Kompany considered hot property? He's proven capable of getting a Championship yo-yo club promoted and proven incapable of achieving anything close to keeping them in the PL. I get the point that he has some credit as a disciple of Pep but really (on the basis of current results) has he done much to separate himself from other high-profile former players turned managers?

 

Plenty of bang average managers have been promoted out of the Championship on less resources than Burnley have at their disposal.

[wykikitoon 28577]

1 hour ago, toonotl said:

Am I missing something? Why is Vincent Kompany considered hot property? He's proven capable of getting a Championship yo-yo club promoted and proven incapable of achieving anything close to keeping them in the PL. I get the point that he has some credit as a disciple of Pep but really (on the basis of current results) has he done much to separate himself from other high-profile former players turned managers?

 

Plenty of bang average managers have been promoted out of the Championship on less resources than Burnley have at their disposal.

He will end up in Saudi with Steeeeeeeeeeeeeevie Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[The Fish 12582]

6 hours ago, toonotl said:

Am I missing something? Why is Vincent Kompany considered hot property? He's proven capable of getting a Championship yo-yo club promoted and proven incapable of achieving anything close to keeping them in the PL. I get the point that he has some credit as a disciple of Pep but really (on the basis of current results) has he done much to separate himself from other high-profile former players turned managers?

 

Plenty of bang average managers have been promoted out of the Championship on less resources than Burnley have at their disposal.

I can only think that his preferred style works with a dominant side, that's why Burnley did well in the Championship. But he didn't evolve it to work when they're not the biggest fish in the pond. 

[LondonBlue 1141]

15 hours ago, Isegrim said:

I am not going to get involved in an argument especially concerning legal stuff and as you totally twisted what I actually said.

 

mate that's fair enough. also i hadn't realised i twisted (or misunderstood) what you said. so i apologise for that. it's obviously a touchy subject for us blues. i will leave it there too. 

 

i do though suspect we both agree that playing an extra game at the end of a long season on the other side of the world seems like utter madness. at the start of the season i get, but the end wow.