Rayvin
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If he had done what you said, and we lost 3-0, would Pardew still be an idiot, or would you state that Benfica were just better?
I don't think anyone believes Benfica to be a better team - they just have less baggage than we do, and we made it difficult for ourselves from the first leg.
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He has made us the team that is scared and scraps for injury time winners.
Not the type of football I want to pay to watch or Im sure the likes of Cabaye, Cisse etc want to play week in, week out.
Expect a players revolt once the season is over.
Fair enough if you don't like the style, but I don't think it was different last season. We weren't blowing teams away, just comfortably doing the business and moving on. There was a period where we won 5 games in a row 2-0, I'm sure of it. That looks like a tactical plan to me.
I also really doubt they'd revolt - Cisse jumping into the crowd last week, the whole team being buoyed by the fans tonight - it almost feels like we genuinely are all in this together. Pardew has done a good job of bringing the fans into the experience as much as he can. Again, more tactical ability - using the resources at his disposal well.
I guess we'll agree to disagree; I enjoyed our campaign. I'm disappointed but am looking forward to what we can achieve next year.
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When have we ever successfully defended a lead under sustained pressure; even Villa nearly took us apart. Contrastingly, how many times have we summoned up reserves to win at the last gasp. He was playing to our strengths.
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That was Sissoko at the end - had it been Mbiwa he might have been more aware of that run in from behind. Good counter. Case in point for why we couldn't go gung-ho earlier really.
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Fighting relegation wins your trust?
We let them have the ball and play football first half and could easily have been two goals down by half time.
Don't be such a sheep and fall for the shit dished up by J69 and co.
Keegan would have had this squad fighting for Europe and would have sent a team out tonight to win, not defend for 70 mins and then get caught on the break.
Yep, cos we won every European cup on offer under Keegan. Couldn't move for the things.
Pardew has a different strategy to Keegan, last year it got us 5th. This year we were hit by injuries and board incompetence. We'd surely have been good for another 10-15 points had we bolstered over the summer.
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Bang on form at last. He's always going to be offside, we can't change that, but his movement is world class. 2 goals, 2 disallowed goals and 2 off the post in 180mins against one if the bet teams in Europe. Hope he fucking mullers the Mackems centre halves
Agreed, he looks back to being the business again. Relief.
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For what it's worth I think Pards got it spot on, apart from Shola coming on. Think I might have tried Cambell, if we'd been more attacking earlier on though they'd have nicked a couple more goals on the break. Player-wise I find Cissé our most frustrating player with the amount of offsides he has.
Shola got the assist for our goal though and played well I thought. A rarity I know, but he looked up for it.
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He's been a negative manager all season man!
If it wasn't for injury time goals we'd be down already!
Maybe so, but we're talking about just this game. Look, your opinion's fair enough - I get that his tactics aren't what you want to see. I'm reassured myself, it seemed like we had a plan at least, and one that nearly came off. He utilised the team and the mindset of the opponent well IMO.
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But we didn't !
Yes but if it was possible for tactics to always work, every team would win every game. The point is, he gave us a chance of putting them out, and it was a close run thing in the end. I don't know what you're expecting? Going out 2-5 all guns blazing? I think that sort of scoreline would be the alternative.
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I'm not worried, we should be on a relative high after that. Should carry us into this game nicely.
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Even the commontater "did you show them too much respect"?
Yes we fucking did.
Right but, if we're talking commentator words as law, they also just said he got the game plan right. If we'd got the second, we'd be hailing Pardew as a mastermind.
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If Pardew knew what he was about we wouldn't be fighting relegation.
He's a manager full of fear.
Mate, most of the team has been injured all season. I know this is a bit of a bitter pill, but Pardew has not let us down with this Europa run.
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Usual know it alls think they know best and will once again defend Pardew.
Shit tactics of waiting til last 20 before playing our best team.
Shite manager who would have us relegated if not for the very lucky injury time goals this season.
Scared football. No thanks.
Sorry but I totally disagree. We would have been overstretched and the effect would have been minimised had Ben Arfa and Marveaux played in the first half. We had to take the first half out of the game in order to minimise the amount of time we had to hold on to any lead, because, as everyone said, Benfica had a goal in them. The only thing that prevented them trying us earlier was that they didn't need to.
I think Pardew really knows what he's about.
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I don't think we could've asked any more from that. They had to go for it, and to be honest, had we been full strength, I reckon we'd have had them.
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FUCKING GET INNNNN!!!!!!
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He might hold up play though, which suggests we're going for aerial bombardment...
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Ok, the Shola sub makes me concerned...
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I'd say it's going to plan so far. I'll reserve judgement on this until the game is complete I think, the plan was definitely to contain in that half.
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Why would even say that! Knob.
I know, it was irresponsible... I'm kinda wrapping myself in knots!
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If we concede just before half time, it'd be just like us.
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Our two-pronged attack is weak as piss.
Yeah true, but looking at this. I don't think scoring this half is the plan. If we scored two they'd be all over us. As it stands, they're standing off a bit.
Bloody hell though, lucky there.
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Yeah...we need to take the edge off. Or get some possession. Shaky start.
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Come to think of it, we've got quite a defensive set up there. I wonder if the plan is ultimately for the midfield to get behind the ball save for Cabaye who acts as the link up to Sissoko and Cisse. It'd remove some of their counter-attacking potency and put less stress on our defence.
They didn't look too great either, defensively. Maybe it'd work.
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Cordoza and Rodrigo on the bench for Benfica mind... maybe they're underestimating us?
The Road To Amsterdam ArenA (UEFA Europa League 2013) - THE END
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I agree with this, Benfica are about our level even with our injuries - meaning that full strength we're likely to be a better side.
Also not particularly proud about getting to the QF. Or about losing on aggregate. What I am pleased with, is that Pardew made a decent fist of getting us through tonight (and I maintain tactically, did everything right), and that he has managed to accomplish something in the past couple of seasons that the previous 5 or 6 (I forget, but since Bobby) managers have been unable to do.
In my mind, this suggests that we are making progress as a club, and have finally halted the startling downward trend. Next year we can consolidate and shoot up the league - and the Europa run might be enough to attract a few more good players.