BalarnyStone

Well it had the desired effect no? It stopped the BAE thread being derailed by stupid questions about condiments or whatever the fuck it was. I'll bump it if that shit starts up again in here....

He comes across as if that would actually be a shock to him though....

On the topic of 5 Live, I'm pretty pissed off that most of the time I've tuned in this week, they've been giving oxygen to the nutjobs from Republic. The group has 1 paid employee, and a measley 20,000 registered members (their claim). That's not balance, that's well into the realm of undue attention.

LOL. It's fucking killing you lot isn't it? The idea that someone could register on the forum for the first time, and either a) post opinions not totally in line with the downtrodden Thatcher hating north east socialist class warrior stereotype, or not find Gemmil funny. I accept I'm probably in the minority on a), but seriously people, if you find something interesting in anything Gemmil says, then you're wrong in the head. He's a tedious cunt who is probably as addicted to unfunny one liners in real life as he is in here, which is probably why he's always in here - who's going to class him as a friend on the outside world? (nee offence to anyone in here who miguidedly does).

Again with the funny. Stop. No. My sides......I preferred it when you (pretended) you weren't interested in reading what I posted, less boring all round. Seriously, you're making Rolf Harris look like an interesting alternative to reading this shite right now.

And you almost came across as funny with this.

What she must do infact is weep that she bothers for a country whose population includes turds like you. She's got no fucking power whatsoever, and she's got no fucking choice to go here there and everywhere, even if it consists of just waving, which has to be the most ingorant thing that's ever said when people talk about what she actually does. That's a level of ignorance that's on a par with someone who says all that Pardew does is pick a team once a week. I bet she puts in more fucking hours than you'll do in a lifetime that's for sure. You're the kind of prick who probably doesn't realise that most of the time she's going somewhere it's at the behest of the government to boost trade or something else that has more to do with benefiting the lot of cunts like you than it ever would be of benefit to her, or that when she's opening some new building in some random town somewhere, it's only possible because she's slept on the royal train in some miserable siding somewhere. I bet you'd fucking moan your tits off if you had to do her schedule for just a month, and you're probably a young bloke and she's a fucking 86 year old granny!!!!!. If I was her, reading the opinons of people like you, then you'd soon know just how much of a selfish embarassing leaching cunt of a monarch I really could be if I was given free reign. Accident of birth? Life fucking sentence more like. In a country full of the likes of you, I'd be living it up every minute, and fuck the lot of you oiks.

No argument from me, I'd vote for any party proposing that. But it's never been proposed though, in all the years of government sinc eincome tax was invented, including the most die hard socialist ones, so either the Illuminati really do control everybody, from Harold Wilson to Margret Thather, or there's some other reason we're both missing. Well, for this leap you have to buy into the Parky fantasy land view that the only people who pay tax in this country are the poor saps on 20%. I'd say there'd be many rich people who'd love the chance to pay at the rate most of the people do, as their 'fair' share.

What scare stories was I telling? President Mary is fine, she's hardly a draw on the world stage though is she, but I'm glad the Irish had the sense not elect a terrorist as their next President. That's a fine democracy that where a bomb planting child killing bastard makes the short list eh? Puts some of our ex-African colonies to shame. As for the rest, well you really are a fantasist. The Queen has the power to send us to war? MPs own all the land, and only get elected so they could legislate their own tax breaks? It's pure unadulterated fantasy land stuff, it bears no resemblance to reality whatsoever. It's garbage.

I think there's been plenty of Lords sent to jail, no? There's certainly been plenty of common traitors who've never been sent down, for one reason or another.

We'll have a monarchy for the forseeable future if Republic is anything to go by - every time I've heard them this week, they've opened with the ridiculous claim that we don't live in a democracy, with the more ridiculous members trying to compare our freedoms with those in North Korea and the BBC to Pravda. Fucking delusional tools the lot of em. Only this morning they were saying how we would elect some President wonk to represent the people, yet the twat soon jumped down Kelvin McKenzie's throat saying it couldn't be him of course. They've kind of missed the point of an election there, no? They weren't having any of the argument either that, conter to their wild claims, the miserable turnouts in all the elections we do have shows that nobody's really that fucked about who represents us in the council/govt, so why the hell would they turn out to give some power hungry Blair type arsehole an 80% yes on whether or not he gets to represent us on the world stage?

Ah bless. First off, it's my user name. I spell it how I want. Second, I get perfectly well that in your mind every single really rich person in the UK is trying to avoid tax, just like you think that every single really rich person in the UK is a non-dom. The fact remains, whether your fragile ego can take it or not, whether you've got enough neurons in that brain to understand this point or not, both of these simpleton like beliefs of yours can be proven to be false very easily, by anyone. They are as dim-witted and unintelligent as points of argument as when the average knuckle dragging talking chimp in the street claims that every immigrant in the country has stolen a native person's job. At minimum, both of you deserve castration to prevent the furtherment of your genes.

Only in your own swiss cheese brain is what he said equivalent to what you said.

It's a DWP 2010/11 figure. Although that's a govt. department, which is half made up of Conservatives, soo....... This all sounds very Illuminati really, and thus not very credible. Like it or not, tax avoidance in the main is simply a product of complexity, not evil plots. Exploitation of it is of course easier for those with the resources to do so, but if you've invented a system of government or wider society that eliminates that inherent unfairness in life, then the Nobel Committee would definitely like to hear from you.

The idea that your model of assessing other's work ethic only applied to 'rich' people wasn't a revelation. Quite why you exclude foreigners isn't clear - they are in the list because they are part of this country's economy and theoretically contributing to it through tax (although Parky would have you believe they are 100% non-doms). As for landowners, well, you can go all Mugabe on their asses if you want and reposess their 'weatlh', but I don't see that producing paradise either. It didn't really work for the Soviets did it.

Hardly. I think it's more disgraceful that it's legal to charge someone a higher percentage of income tax just because they earn more, and call that 'fair'. Perhaps there would be less avoidance among the rich if there was a genuniely fair system of a flat rate. Maybe then the envious people frothing their knickers in jealousy would pay more attention to the people who really are stealing from the country while contributing absolutely nothing to it.

So that's at least 1, possibly 2, out of 10, that could be considered lazy bastards who simply inherited their wealth, and thus can be justifiably taxed at a higher rate than the rest of us.

The cost to the treasury of fraudulent sickness benefit claims alone last year was £1.2 billion. To reach the same amount of cost, you have to assume that at least 270 of those 400 people earning £10m+ are using illegal measures to avoid paying tax (paying a lawyer to point oiut loopholes is of course, not illegal). Quite clearly, it's not just the tax-avoiding rich who are holding the UK back form being a utopia of fairness and equal opportunity.

Have I fuck. I pointed out that it's beyond stupid for communists like yourself to claim that having rich people pay a higher percentage of income tax was somehow fair. You've countered with this with some absolute bollocks about how the really rich in the UK don't pay any tax AT ALL, based on your fucknutted idea that these people are all to a man non-doms - which is just factually wrong.

As I suspected, in your ignorance you thought the two were the same. This was a nice try at covering this up though.....

Are you for real? The best player in that position in the country asking for £60k a week from a supposed EPL title challenger? About 5 or so years after the likes of Roy Keane had been demanding £50k? If you're not just opposed to high wages generally, then that is no point at all. Call him a greddy cunt all you want, he's the one with the CL medal, and Arsenal are the permanent also rans. I've no idea what the Henry thing refers to, but it sounds like a quote from a book giving his opinion on whether or not he got the same level of recognition as Henry. I'd need ot know more before I commented, but if you don't want to hear his opinons, then don't buy the book. It's hardly the same as sticking your mush in a camera and slagging off your fans live just after you've given a completely shit performance. As for the faithfull partner, I don't recall saying he was one (even though the key word there is allegations), but the despicable thing I was alluding to was shagging one of your team-mates exes, not just shagging around behind the wife's back (which is according to polls, something anywhere up to half the country does).

It certainly sounds like you're letting your shit do your talking, that's for sure. If when you said "The really rich in the UK PAY NO TAX.", what you actually meant was, "in the UK non-doms PAY NO TAX", then for one, you're a fucking screwball if you think that was a revelation to me (it's fucking GCSE economics that for fuck's sake), and for two, you need to prove that all the really rich in the uK are all non-doms. so, over to you you meth-smoking fruitbat.

I don't have a clue? You're the tool who just claimed the super rich don't pay any tax at all, you utter buffoon.

I think you'll find that's total bollocks.

Income tax is there to fund the government. The rest is a pretty fanciful wishlist, which no government of any kind on the planet has acheived, whatever their tax policies.