wolfy

Just doing my regular stuff and flitting about my usual forums. Mainly FES and Newcastle mad forum.

Fisherman tend to do stuff like that, as well.

I'm giving out my thoughts on why I believe what we are told on many things, is not entirely legitimate. You mention accepting criticism of their claims and scrutiny. From who? The reality is, anyone who goes against official lines is touted as a conspiracy nut or just simply a controversial nut if science teaching is opposed.

What is the point?

What?

Because that's the truth. It's a truth because that's all I can do. I do not have the means to explore to find the full on reality. Having said that, scientists are doing exactly the same thing about Earth. Theorising. So the question is simple but the answer is far from simple.

It might well be a waste of effort to you. That's your thoughts. I bet there's a lot of what you do in life that other people would deem as a waste of time and effort, just as much as me or anyone else. That's what makes people different and what actually makes society work.

My honest answer is, I don't know for sure about what and how many reason there are for hiding the truth. I can make some guesses but that's all they would be. Look at what we're told about history. We were all brought up with all kinds of belief's and yet many of us find some of them a tad too far out. Basically we know that there are many religions and we also know that politics produces a variation of gobbledygook. Imagine what it was like in earlier times? People worship the sun and believe lights in the sky are gods in heavens and ...well, the list goes on and on. I'm not here to argue that. That's up to each person's thoughts and belief's. Getting back to why they lie. It depends on where the lies stem from and how many are sitting on the lie, as opposed to how many are simply following protocol for reasons that can be, to keep decent jobs or to not upset the apple-cart. So those at the very top (whoever they may be) may be keeping people from knowing the full on reality of what we are living on/in and do not want us exploring or gaining knowledge of it for whatever reasons...good or bad. I could go on and on but the list is as long as it wants to be in terms of potentials.

It has a sort of Italian look about it. A Juventus like look. I like it.

I don't pay much attention to godlike productions or ATS. As for shills; I imagine they're everywhere with everything, not just alternate theories to the science we are coaxed into accepting. The way I see it is simple. I leave it up to each person to decide for themselves, either in the comfort of their own surroundings or as a group, depending on where they find themselves when viewing/debating topics that are deemed conspiracies. As for the pressure issue you mention. It's not like a balloon and doesn't expand continually. It expands and retracts due to energy build or drop, wherever it happens on Earth. The atmosphere is stacked and is built from the bottom up and from centre to as far as it can finish up to create effect for life to exist. The rest is simply a break down of frozen ice from dense to less dense the further out it goes , leading to the dome ice skin of the lightest frozen elements we know of. Basically hydrogen and helium. At sea level with a balloon, you are blowing up the balloon directly against opposing pressure and reliant of the balloon skin stretching to push away the atmospheric pressure that surrounds that balloon, which in effect is trying to crush the balloon back to equalised pressure but is stopped by the pressure build up that you provided internally of that balloon. The Earth dome builds by push up and out of energy but each time it happens, it creates a skin at the dome due to molecules being allowed to expand more and more as they are stacked up. Those molecules at sea level are under extreme pressure from the above stack but those above are under much less pressure due to expansion higher up, meaning less molecules per area and less pressure. The whole lot are vibrating from bottom to top but the bottom (sea level) are vibrating under extreme pressure meaning more friction, meaning more heat generated. Higher up we have much less vibration and so, much less friction, meaning much less heat generated...which is why you see snow covered mountains, etc. This is how I know we do not live on a spinning globe moving around some huge ball of fire in a vacuum and all the rest of what... I believe... is much more nonsensical that many other theories out there.

Be back later.

I think they are on par with the ford transit for capacity.

You have to remember that I'm only hypothesising. I obviously can't arrogantly state what I'm saying is a truth, but it is my thoughts based on how I see things panning out in nature. And yes, in my thoughts, all cells are connected. As far as a vacuum is concerned; it's not quite as straight-forward as just being a so called vacuum in terms of absence of all matter, because absence of all matter means just that. Let's call it extreme low pressure compared to the pressure we survive under.

Sorry about that. What is it you are referring to in particular?

And you are 100% entitled to think that way. You're also entitled to believe I'm talking nonsense. I can't ask you to alter your thoughts, just as I won't alter mine, unless I believe there's better theories to what I adhere to. It's the same as I have no right to tell people there is no god. It's a faith system with everything we cannot physically prove, with anything.

I agree. Each person can obviously adhere to whatever fits their belief system. Naturally the current belief system for the masses is gravity working on a spinning globe in a space vacuum. We get told this because we do not observe any of it and our basic human senses/sensors do not feel what we are coaxed into accepting. It is basically a religion among religions, disguised as science, as far as I'm concerned.

It's ok I'll be away soon enough.

And yet nobody knows what gravity is as a force. We get told about experiments that somehow prove gravity is real, like the Cavendish experiment. It proves absolutely nothing about gravity.

I don't profess to know all the answers but how about giving us the illusion that we cannot explore any more of it due to us being told it's a ball that is generally mapped out, with only supposed Antarctica and the north pole being a bridge too far in many cases for deeper penetration by human. What's to say that there isn't much more of this Earth to explore and maybe attached similar Earth like cells. Of course it appears crazy and complete nuts for anyone to even think of, yet how do we really know? Why do we believe oceans can adhere to a spinning ball when our senses clearly show us the complete opposite? We can be made to believe anything at all if there is some kind of official stamp attached to it.

How do you know all other planets are round? How do you actually know those things you call planets, are actually what you've been told? As for flat Earth theorists being shills. That's your opinion based on whatever you base it on. It also depends on what people think of when they think of a flat Earth. I don't follow a flat disc that water falls off or anything like that. I believe it's a cell we all live in, not on.

I personally believe the spinning globe is the biggest load of nonsense we've been coaxed into accepting.

We all have opinions on many things. I happen to have opinions on things that the majority believe is crazy, yet the truth is, we are only geared to generally follow mass opinion if it's rubber stamped as an official opinion where mainstream is concerned. To think that a man can talk to his invisible friend or a woman could talk to her invisible friend and yet be ridiculed to the point of frenzy in some cases, down to actually being sectioned. Basically classed as absolute nutcases and yet a crowd can walk into a building and talk to their invisible god and be looked upon as pillars of society. Strange world isn't it?

Ah well, Ok. You can shut id down whenever you feel. I'll make this my last post. It's a fucking shame I can't be allowed to put my thoughts forward. For fucks sake, I was even willing to pay. I can see that any topic I put up will suffer the same fate, me being me. You have your regulars and I suppose I'm upsetting them. Ok, I concede, I'll go quietly mate. I'm not happy about it but what can I do. See yeah later.

Ok fair anough. I'd have happily paid if I'm wasting space. So what you're saying is, you don't agree with my opinions so I'm not welcome to post them as this board doesn't want a bad name over the likes of me. Would this be right? If that's the case, then I won't stay where I'm not welcome. If this is your stance, just say and you can wipe my name off. It's your board and you call the shots.

Of course there's a wave spectrum. The clue is in the WAVE. Everything is attached. There are no free moving bits of matter anywhere. The answer to a lot of what you're getting at is in the observation of water. Observe the waves and what not in a pond. This is what's happening in the air and in the ground. It's just frequency and vibration of it all which is the key to how things change. Throw in a small stine and you get a small wave. Throw a big one in and you get a big wave. Fire a machine gun into one spot and you create a constant ripple. A frequency. It's all a case of pressure applied and the speed or frequency of it. You can cut metal with water. Electricity to your light in your home is coming through a larger wire that handles the friction and frequency of it. Try and squeeze that through a very thin wire, as in your filament and it glows. The amount it glows is down the the amount of energy applied.