[Man Utd vs Newcastle United]

10 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

The only way we lose this game is if the players’ minds aren’t right, or if we get done by a dodgy decision. Look at their current 11 and compare it to ours. How many of their players get in our side? Amad Diallo instead of Murphy, maybe?

 

Neville just said this, Diallo for Murphy and possibly Onana for Dubravka. Not sure about the second swap mind, but tbf neither was he. 

[mackem messageboard gold]

You can tell when they lose. They need another Mag wearing toon tops threads. So on average 3 or 4 of these threads a month. 

 

[What's Currently Wrong With You]

Just now, Gemmill said:

 

Sounds like we've all got a great 2025 to look forward to.

 

I'm sure these will sort it, cheers. The thing with my hands and feet has all but resolved itself too. 

When I was in them, for the same thing, I developed a strange tic, sudden jerky movements of my limb and neck. Cleared up as soon as I stopped and I went on a penicillin based antibiotics iirc, which worked. 

[What's Currently Wrong With You]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

Came off the last antibiotics cos they gave me pain in my hands and feet - as if I'd been out having a bare hands snowball fight for an hour, that sort of hot, itchy palms feeling but in the soles of my feet too. Lovely. 

 

So I'm now on a different kind. Not as strong and, on the doc's advice I left it a couple of days to see if symptoms returned. So I'm not exactly back to square one, but definitely no longer feel fixed. 

Quinolones are nasty like. Hope the next lot agree with you better and your prostate gets sorted!

Thats another thing on my list to get looked at. Oh joy. 

[What's Currently Wrong With You]

2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

I’m not trivialising anything. My life and the lives of many people close to me have been touched by addiction. Google alcoholism - it doesn’t just mean physical addiction, which is the absolute worst form of the disease. Problem drinking that leads to destructive outcomes is also a form of alcoholism  

 

I think your both right tbh. Physical addiction means withdrawals. When I ended up in hospital I was certainly close to that. Or I felt I was, but I wasn't. My electrolytes were shot to shit and my heart wasn't functioning properly, it was horrific. Mainly potassium depletion. The docs told me even then though that I was definitely not physically dependent - you need more than 2 weeks for that, and need to drink a lot more, I had just basically abused my body and a lot of my symptoms were starvation. I hadn't eaten in 2 weeks. Almost at all. Insane dangerous period of my life when I fell apart completely. 

They were brilliant fixing me up but ateod not interested or equipped to do the MH stuff I later needed and didn't get. Later had all the scans and blood tests and I'm okay. Better than average I fact as one poster once said.

Physical dependency is terrifying, from what I've read. I really pity those souls.  Behavioural problems/psychological dependence/addiction are also truly bad, though imo not in the same league. Those (physically dependent) people have to drink to live, if they don't, they might well die in agony. Fucking hell. Seizures, delirium tremors, strokes, brain haemorrhage. Lives completely revolved around acquiring drink so you don't literally die. And death through liver failure is coming for you anyway. And stopping in that state is nigh on impossible with the lack of service here. 

But in the binge state, you can end up dead pretty quickly if you do something stupid and still otherwise wreck your life. And worse, others. And that's where I am at. 

It's an interesting discussion anyway. I'm okay for now I think, I'll repeat I don't want to be having this discussion (personally I mean) in 2025. I think Smart recovery might be my next port of call. Seems to be the best option from what I can make out (for abstinence or professional moderation). I'll keep an occasional update on here. 

 

 

[What's Currently Wrong With You]

16 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

@Renton

Naturally, you’re beating yourself up because you’ve had a slip. 
 

Thinking about it another way though, it’s some fucking achievement to only have had two blips in the time you’ve been staying off it, I’d say. 
 

So many people can’t do it and end up utterly wrecked by it. 
 

You’re doing more than ok mate, give yourself a little slap on the wrist then don’t dwell on the negatives- it’s done. 
 

Your next period of sobriety starts here. 

 

 

Well that depends on what you call a blip. I had beer on my summer hols most days. It was intentional and no problems. Felt in complete control, never felt ill, 3 or 4 max over an entire night. Was that a blip? Had the odd beer or wine other times too, no issue. But then I started 3 days with good intentions this Xmas and disaster. 

So aye, what J69, Gemmill etc says is right. Clearly I need complete sobriety. But that isn't easy. Cos I do like a drink when Im in control. Not so much when I'm not. And in 3 occasions now I have completely lost control which is actually scarey. But not drinking again ever makes me feel a bit down tbh. 

 

New Years eve will be very hard. January almost certainly guarantees depression for me, that's just a fact, although at least drink will not be a temptation. I've tried antidepressants with disastrous results, withdrawal was horrible. I've tried talking therapies and ended up much worse. The only thing that helps me is walking and listening to stuff. But I'm doing 20000 fucking steps a day now, wearing out my shoes and basically just dont have the time! I guess running is the next step but I don't like running much. And despite all I've said, honestly I think for me drink is the symptom not the cause (although obviously it's a bit of both), because not drinking doesn't cure me (but of course spares me this) 

 

It's just mental health at the end of the day isn't it? I know a lot of us struggle with this, I'm not alone. Hence why Im minded to share my thoughts. 

[What's Currently Wrong With You]

Update. Just had a amazing shit. Perfectly formed paper saver. Given the state of my guts this was some surprise I can tell you. 

Off to get the train to Edinburgh where we are seeing the botanical gardens light show. Will endeavour to stay out of bother, not easy in that city admittedly but will stick to cafes and restaurants. As AH said, new day, new start etc. My problems are minor in the grand scheme of things. So many people have it worse than me. Genuine thanks. New year resolution - go a full year without another post like these. 👍

[What's Currently Wrong With You]

1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I'm not sure if you're trying to convince us or yourself buddy, but it seems fairly clear you just need to knock it on the head permanently. Happy to share some literature with you if it helps 

Difficult to disagree. I know how it goes. Today was a tough day. I was in places people were drinking, knowing that just one drink would cure me- for now. Resisted the temptation, felt sick all day, could hardly eat. Tomorrow will be easier. Except I'm staying in Edinburgh which is the worst place possible for the peeve.Typical.

I'll get through it though, by New year the cravings will start. Then they’ll go after 2 weeks and then the fucking boredom will kick in which is nearly as bad.

Want to sink a couple with your mates? Just soft drinks for you lad. I don't fucking care that there is a great choice nowadays, I will miss the buzz. Its not the same but logically the alternative is clearly worse. Maybe not immediately but somewhere down the line my brain will explode and I'm back on here blabbing to you guys for support. And you have all been a great support, I mean it. 

I'm writing this as therapy for myself but also hope it may help people with their own demons. I think back on my life and that first time I drank to relieve a hangover was me fucked. No going back from that moment. Please don't do this. 

So I'm in bed early dosed up on omeprazole looking forward to feeling better tomorrow and the familiar battles ahead of me. Starting with insomnia and anxiety.I hate this time of year.

 

 

 

 

[What's Currently Wrong With You]

I guess I'm not fully committed to. complete abstinence yet. Sometimes I am fine. Most the time. On holidays somewhere hot I just have the odd beer and enjoy it, no problem.Normally I have nowt in the house and can have a couple of drinks with a meal, and that's it. It adds to my enjoyment But sometimes I just flip. Today I'm just hungover really, will stay off the drink without much bother. But in July I literally went on a bender for no reason, I lost 4 days out of my life and don't even know why. Can't remember it. And of course 2 years ago I ended up in hospital for a week I was so bad with it. Nearly died I was so fucked up. 

 

I know I need to stop. I don't want my kids seeing me like this. But sad as it sounds I don't have a lot of other pleasures in my life. I'm tempted just to say one day at a time. And I won't drink for a few weeks, maybe months. Then I'll be sensible. And then won't in time - in maybe 6 months or a year I self destruct and I'll hate myself. 

 

Anyway, cheers, writing this down has convinced me I need help.I can't pretend I can do this on my own anymore. I'm ill. 

 

 

[What's Currently Wrong With You]

Alcoholism. Fallen off the wagon big time , need to get on it again. Absolutely sick of this shite. Feel mentally ashamed and physically awful. 

 

Watching a panto this afternoon on the dry heaved ain't going to be fun. 

So tempted just to have the one. Will make me feel better right? And then I will be sick again tomorrow. Why can't I drink in moderation like every other fucker? Maybe 2025 will be the year I shake this monkey from my back. I doubt it like. 

 

[SOB ON THE TYNE]

3 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Their forums were a funny read tbh, They absolutely hate playing us. Several suggesting they should forfeit this fixture each year to save against injuries and suspensions since they only get walloped either way.

 

We've known each other some time now Rayvin. Let me impart this piece of wisdom on you. Birmingham is a shit hole. Villa fans are complete cunts. That is all. 

[Newcastle United vs Aston Villa]

On 22/12/2024 at 11:56, Renton said:

 

To be fair we were fairly dog shit early in the season and got some points we scarcely deserved. Great we have come back into form in time for Xmas though.

There you Gaan. Smashed the beige cunts all over. Enjoy your eggs benidict tomorrow lads then fuck off back to your brummy concrete hell hole you fucking bell ends. 

[Merry Christmas!!!!!]

Some of them. 

 

[Merry Christmas!!!!!]

5 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

This is literally me today. 

 

Anybody coming to the lovely Tynemouth on the Metro have a look on the foot bridge. Chris Donald has done a great job. 

 

[Merry Christmas!!!!!]

17 hours ago, Gemmill said:

The antibiotics are working straight away tbf which is good. On the downside, the doctor literally used the following words to me: "these antibiotics are actually notorious for making people's tendons explode".

 

He obviously thought the ice was sufficiently broken by his finger for him to get into the jokes. They are genuinely antibiotics that can fuck you up though. But his choice of words were interesting. 

 

Quinolones. They can also cause seizures, from personal experience. Merry fucking Christmas! 

[Newcastle United vs Aston Villa]

1 hour ago, PaddockLad said:

Them taking the piss out of any regional accent displays a lack of self awareness verging on the astonishing  

 

Al Murray did a routine about it….

 

 

 

[What mood are you in and why?]

2 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Thanks all. He will be fine. The chemo will hopefully make him feel better indefinitely and we can get a bit of normality back. The main bit I'm struggling with is the pair of them feel like they've aged 20 years on the last 12 months. 

 

On the positive side at least hopefully you yourself are over the worst of the flu, which is really important just for coping with family, young and old.  

I'm in the Fish boat today. Done literally fuck all. Just monitor e-mails, nudge the mouse occasionally so the green status light comes on, and get paid, all the while having the excuse not to do the family Xmas things. 

Finally getting in the Xmas mood, 8 days off after today. 🥳

[Ipswich Town vs Newcastle United]

34 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Ah, come on. Why not? It’s Christmas after all.

 

 

I read that in this voice. 

 

[What mood are you in and why?]

15 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

I'm working this week because I'm a contractor so if I don't work I don't get paid. Also I'm really tight and don't like losing money.

 

Lived in Scotland too long. 👍

[Newcastle United vs Aston Villa]

Had some interesting games with the beige cunts over the years. The first home game when we were promoted we humped them 6-0 with Caroll getting a hatrick. Humped them twice last year. OTOH, Robson's last game, the time above when they relgated us and were small time. Or the ridiculous home game where Bowyer and Dyer had a scrap and a sniper shot and killed Taylor, think that was Villa although we were our own opposition that day. 

Think we'll muller them again tbh. 

[Vladimir Putin and Russia]

On 20/12/2024 at 18:04, Gemmill said:

Same. Not worth the energy of worrying about it. Seems like we've passed a tipping point and we might be terminally fucked. I'm just gonna play with my Digitakt and let the world burn. 

 

Late to this thread update. I forgot what that was so googled it and fuck me the cost! 

Congrats to HMHM for hopefully improving your life work balance and massive respect for PL for doing voluntary work. As for the rest, well, thought I was supposed to be the miserablist of this board? I'm minded of George Harrison's "All things must pass" at this point. Things are cyclical. Looking shit at the moment but history tells us ultimately they will get better at some point. Maybe. 

[What mood are you in and why?]

I sympathise with wykiki here like. I'm working because my a/l allowance is frankly shite in this Americanised job, feels like everybody else is just out to take the piss. 

[Other Games 2024-25]

1-5. Spurs is another match I'm hoping for 3 points from. They're dogshit. 

[Other Games 2024-25]

Just now, Howmanheyman said:

 

 

Why did I turn it over?

 

 

 

 

For the same reason we need you to work when we play. 

[Other Games 2024-25]

Hammered by Bournemouth at home. 

Out match on the 30th looks more than winnable.