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Didn't read Jimbo's post properly there, I almost agreed when really the bit I agree with is that IF they play in England they should start at the bottom. That means the Conference. I don't like the bigotry surrounding those 2 clubs and wouldn't like to see either of them playing in England.

Is that something to do with the war? 54985[/snapback] 1937, 1973, and whatever year it was that Alan Sunderland won the FA Cup with Arsenal. 55058[/snapback] Nah, it's Sunderland AFC and it's nowt to do with the war. To give you a clue, it's calendar years rather than seasons. 1937 & 73 are right, obvioulsy. 55146[/snapback] Ahhh. What year was it they were in the old Third Division? I'd assume they'd started in the FA Cup First Round so may have been unbeaten from November to January or whatever upto the start of the FA Cup Third Round? 55188[/snapback] Aye, they were relegated in 87, lost before the third round in 87-88 before Xmas. They got promoted that year and went into the third round the following year so they never actually played in the cup in for the whole of 1988. 55193[/snapback] That's a lot of knowledge about the dirty, stinking filthy mackems, Alex.

As I said to Alex. You got a problem with me ( don't know why like ) go to PM. Surprised you're up and about at 2154, school tomorrow like. 53694[/snapback] Cos you're a prize twat. Ooops, sorry, i'll send you a PM like a real man would. No school, just graft, got a life see, don't go on forums looking for fights. 54129[/snapback] Who does? Apart from you that is, unless you think calling a stranger a 'twat" to their face might not start a fight, like. Why don't you go out tonight and call a stranger a twat, just to test whether this might start a fight or not? How ironic your comment is. All I want to talk about is football. It would be nice if people would accept that being asked why they have an opinion is not abuse, but that being called a twat, cunt, bastard, or anything else you lot find acceptable, is abuse. 54523[/snapback] You have an incredibly selective memory htl! 54633[/snapback] You're running out, aren't you? Some people have posted stuff about football, why not respond to that, mate? 54647[/snapback] Running out of what? Insults? Not a chance mate when it come to hypocritic numbskulls like yourself who believe their opinion is the be all and end all. I'll post in my own time, mate. 54735[/snapback] Sigh Personal insults in your post toward me, caused by what exactly? I don't see any insults from me toward you. As for believing my opinion is the be all and end all, I certainly don't believe that, but if you want to think my opinion is the be all and end all, that's upto you. As far as I'm concerned my opinion is worth no more than yours. I think you need to be reminded that you're the one who implied your opinion was more worthy on the basis you sit in the Gallowgate and people around you think the same way you do. Otherwise why mention it? Anyway, as I said to the last bloke, why not let this fade away? I'm not that bothered, mate. Unless you have a reason for not wanting to drop the subject like? 54989[/snapback] OK HTL lets bury the hatchet. Tell me more about formations not mattering much. Not sure a professional manager would be on your wavelength, not even Gazza! 55006[/snapback] Well ok. Formations matter up to a point, but I think it's best to use your players to their strengths. If you have a group of players able to successfully play 4-3-3, then go for it, but I think it's more important to use the players at your disposal correctly, than to doggedly stick to a formation because a manager prefers a certain formation. An example is that Souness tried to change our formation last season, it failed because he didn't have the right players for it. He had the players for 4-4-2, which was why we improved when he went back to it. It wasn't because 4-4-2 is always better than 4-3-3. Bottom line is you need a quality manager organising a group of quality players correctly. 3 at the back could work here, but only if you have a team full of the right players, so it's not really a cack formation. I don't think those players are easy to come by in England, which is why that way of playing has never really worked here.

I don't think formations matter too much, just quality players managed well by a quality manager. Apart from 3 at the back, which is cack. 54992[/snapback] Wasn't that employed by the great Dutch teams, and West Germany to great effect? 54995[/snapback] Aye, but they don't play in the English Premier League. I don't think any team has won the league championship or either of the cup competitions in England using 3 at the back, certainly not the league championship. I may be wrong, but I'd be interested if someone can mention a team that has. As I understand it, in Germany 3 at the back is employed as routine through all levels of football, just as 4 at the back is in England. So, through childhood to turning pro', lads throughout a team are used to the 3 at the back system in Germany, but for English players it's a completely different way of playing, and not just for the defenders either. I don't think it's easy for players, even though they are pro's, to adjust to the different requirements of that system. Hence it doesn't work over here and never has really. Do you have an example of a successful team in England using that system?

I don't think formations matter too much, just quality players managed well by a quality manager. Apart from 3 at the back, which is cack.

As I said to Alex. You got a problem with me ( don't know why like ) go to PM. Surprised you're up and about at 2154, school tomorrow like. 53694[/snapback] Cos you're a prize twat. Ooops, sorry, i'll send you a PM like a real man would. No school, just graft, got a life see, don't go on forums looking for fights. 54129[/snapback] Who does? Apart from you that is, unless you think calling a stranger a 'twat" to their face might not start a fight, like. Why don't you go out tonight and call a stranger a twat, just to test whether this might start a fight or not? How ironic your comment is. All I want to talk about is football. It would be nice if people would accept that being asked why they have an opinion is not abuse, but that being called a twat, cunt, bastard, or anything else you lot find acceptable, is abuse. 54523[/snapback] You have an incredibly selective memory htl! 54633[/snapback] You're running out, aren't you? Some people have posted stuff about football, why not respond to that, mate? 54647[/snapback] Running out of what? Insults? Not a chance mate when it come to hypocritic numbskulls like yourself who believe their opinion is the be all and end all. I'll post in my own time, mate. 54735[/snapback] Sigh Personal insults in your post toward me, caused by what exactly? I don't see any insults from me toward you. As for believing my opinion is the be all and end all, I certainly don't believe that, but if you want to think my opinion is the be all and end all, that's upto you. As far as I'm concerned my opinion is worth no more than yours. I think you need to be reminded that you're the one who implied your opinion was more worthy on the basis you sit in the Gallowgate and people around you think the same way you do. Otherwise why mention it? Anyway, as I said to the last bloke, why not let this fade away? I'm not that bothered, mate. Unless you have a reason for not wanting to drop the subject like?

As I said to Alex. You got a problem with me ( don't know why like ) go to PM. Surprised you're up and about at 2154, school tomorrow like. 53694[/snapback] Cos you're a prize twat. Ooops, sorry, i'll send you a PM like a real man would. No school, just graft, got a life see, don't go on forums looking for fights. 54129[/snapback] Who does? Apart from you that is, unless you think calling a stranger a 'twat" to their face might not start a fight, like. Why don't you go out tonight and call a stranger a twat, just to test whether this might start a fight or not? How ironic your comment is. All I want to talk about is football. It would be nice if people would accept that being asked why they have an opinion is not abuse, but that being called a twat, cunt, bastard, or anything else you lot find acceptable, is abuse. 54523[/snapback] You have an incredibly selective memory htl! 54633[/snapback] Think hypocrite is the word you're looking for S.O 54660[/snapback] Think vindictive is the word you're looking for mate. Unable to let things go, aren't you? All I want to do is talk about football, I can't help it if I find sarcasm to be an insult and you don't. Why not drop it and let the forum move onto proper discussions?

Cantona. Bastard.

Is that something to do with the war?

Dean Saunders. Fucking loser. 54534[/snapback] Him or me?? 54535[/snapback] Most difficult question yet, mate. 54536[/snapback] 54543[/snapback] What was peculiar/different about the goals the night we won the Fairs Cup in 1969? I can almost hear the scampering about as you all rush for your DVD's. 54569[/snapback] from memory mate,only got the goals on video which is now in the garage as i've tried to catch up with the modern world and got a DVD,but anyway.... ..the goals (posts) were striped,is that what you were getting at ? 54683[/snapback] That's it. You auld git.

As I said to Alex. You got a problem with me ( don't know why like ) go to PM. Surprised you're up and about at 2154, school tomorrow like. 53694[/snapback] Cos you're a prize twat. Ooops, sorry, i'll send you a PM like a real man would. No school, just graft, got a life see, don't go on forums looking for fights. 54129[/snapback] Who does? Apart from you that is, unless you think calling a stranger a 'twat" to their face might not start a fight, like. Why don't you go out tonight and call a stranger a twat, just to test whether this might start a fight or not? How ironic your comment is. All I want to talk about is football. It would be nice if people would accept that being asked why they have an opinion is not abuse, but that being called a twat, cunt, bastard, or anything else you lot find acceptable, is abuse. 54523[/snapback] You have an incredibly selective memory htl! 54633[/snapback] You're running out, aren't you? Some people have posted stuff about football, why not respond to that, mate?

Mackems

I agree about covering options on the bench and there is a value to a striker with physical strength (rather than say pure aerial ability), but if you're good enough you don't have to have that option all the time. Arsenal have the likes of Henry who's shite in the air and he's played alongside and with other players who aren't exactly dominant in the air like Reyes, Bergkamp etc. Meanwhile Chelsea have shown with Drogba the value of having a physical presence, so it depends what you are working with and how well your team is playing and what style of football they're playing. And just to be annoying, i would have loved to see Owen/Bellamy up front as any defence would struggle to handle those two playing together and if you had Dyer in the same line up we would be lethal on the break! 51807[/snapback] I think the only thing you need really, is an outlet. To keep the ball. Whether this is to a strong player who can hold the ball, or a fast player who you play it into space for, doesn't really matter. The point is you can get the ball, keep it or get to it first, and move up the field and attack. Owen and Bellamy would have been fantastic. Owen is a penalty box, Bellamy would have played as he always did, and Owen would have benefited from his partner like Shearer, or more like Shearer if he had been in his prime. Meanwhile, it never ceases to amaze me why teams bring everyone back for corners etc. You should always leave someone up. If you have 2 players like this standing near the halfway line, every team we play would be forced to keep at least 3 players of their own. Take the initiative, put them on the back foot. Turn them, make them worry about your pace in that situation. 54582[/snapback] Wow! A football comment to reply to. Whatever next....... Well here goes.... Aye, but you need the pace. Which is why it's even more galling what Mr Souness has done.

So Newcastle vs Sunderland isn't a derby? 54575[/snapback]

Fair enough, but I can't see them finishing 3rd like we did in our first season. Good luck to them though. 54375[/snapback] I agree with you there, 3rd would be a tall order. Thinking back to those days it makes me feel great inside, it was just a total joy to watch and it made you feel so proud. This is how we started the 94-95 season: Leicester 1 NUFC 3 NUFC 4 Coventry 0 NUFC 5 Southampton 1 West Ham 1 NUFC 3 NUFC 4 Chelsea 2 Arsenal 2 NUFC 3 NUFC 1 Liverpool 1 Villa 0 NUFC 2 25 goals in 8 games fanfu--ing tastic!!!!!!! 54426[/snapback] and then Bilbao 54436[/snapback] And finishing a disappointing 6th..... But you're right. Those first 3 seasons in the PL were practically the best in living memory. 54478[/snapback] Though, who cares about enjoying football. I've learnt a couple of days ago that these seasons were not good because in a couple of games Newcastle weren't able to defend a lead... 54487[/snapback] Total manipulation of a point - no wonder you work in law Isegrim! 54496[/snapback] He made a perfectly valid point from what I've understood of posts in recent days.

Pardon, but how do you conclude the players were performing above themselves when we came back up? Many of the players Keegan signed, notably Venison, Beresford, Lee, Bracewell, Sellars and Beardsley were all top flight players already. Who thought Beardsley was past it? I don't recall anybody believing anything other than this was a tremendous signing at the time it happened, I don't recall hearing anyone claiming it was a gamble because he was past it. Wasn't he banging in the goals the season before?

Dean Saunders. Fucking loser. 54534[/snapback] Him or me?? 54535[/snapback] Most difficult question yet, mate. 54536[/snapback] 54543[/snapback] What was peculiar/different about the goals the night we won the Fairs Cup in 1969? I can almost hear the scampering about as you all rush for your DVD's.

Dean Saunders. Fucking loser. 54534[/snapback] Him or me?? 54535[/snapback] Most difficult question yet, mate.

Dean Saunders. Fucking loser.

Here's a clue. He plays for Newcastle, I think. 54527[/snapback] Steve Harper. 54528[/snapback] So what happens now? Can anyone pose a question, or is it yours next?

Here's a clue. He plays for Newcastle, I think.

As I said to Alex. You got a problem with me ( don't know why like ) go to PM. Surprised you're up and about at 2154, school tomorrow like. 53694[/snapback] Cos you're a prize twat. Ooops, sorry, i'll send you a PM like a real man would. No school, just graft, got a life see, don't go on forums looking for fights. 54129[/snapback] Who does? Apart from you that is, unless you think calling a stranger a 'twat" to their face might not start a fight, like. Why don't you go out tonight and call a stranger a twat, just to test whether this might start a fight or not? How ironic your comment is. All I want to talk about is football. It would be nice if people would accept that being asked why they have an opinion is not abuse, but that being called a twat, cunt, bastard, or anything else you lot find acceptable, is abuse.

We should play great against Chelsea then. 54087[/snapback] We'll murder them for the first two minutes. 54089[/snapback] Can't agree with that, total load of bollocks! I reckon 1 minute max.

We should play great against Chelsea then.

I'd be much happier if we signed a top striker to go straight into the team with Owen, and another good quality striker for backup. That would be it for me. I don't want the club to over stretch and am wondering if FS already has iibafh.