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Red hot favourite for the Forest job now. Would be a very good start for him this, middle sized Championship club who could probably sustain Premiership football if they came up.

If we got 23,000 in any league we'd absolutely pilloried, despite a smaller catchment area, that's all my point is.

Better than kipping in a phone box though. I couldn't remember how mad it was when Isidro Diaz and Roberto Martinez came from Spain to play for Wigan in Division Four. It's almost the norm now.

What I'm saying is, 23,000 isn't a disgrace for a club that's been in the old 3rd division recently. If anyone thinks it is then fair enough, but I personally think that's a daft view to hold. Stoke get 27,000 and are playing at the absolute extent of their potential (way beyond it in fact as they are bankrolled). I'm not disputing their relative league positions as obviously that would be absurd. They were amongst the promotion favourites though, we got 44,000 down there in the ccc, and there was no evidence to suggest they'd go any lower. I think 23,000 is abysmal for a club within a city of their size regardless what leagues they've been in. Man City even did better than that, and look at Norwich their grounds been sold out for years, and they stayed down in league one for a while. 23,000 for a club that's been in the third division is really bad evidence to say they're a nonentity club iyam. We've done comfortably less than that and we've never even been in the third. We're bigger than them by a good margin, but they're not a small club. Aye in one season when football wasn't popular, and we were being mauled by the directors. At the same time Leeds were averaging 13,000. It's never been a football town, never averaged over 40,000 in its' entire history since 1921. Incredible stat for a club some regard as big.

Isn't there a large Catholic enclave in Sunderland? Not sure tbh but someone was telling me about it once and also reckoned the Catholic / Protestant divide is more noticeable there. He was a (Catholic) mackem btw. I don't know but it shouldn't matter. I'm catholic by birth and they're about as significant as AFC Bournemouth to me.

What I'm saying is, 23,000 isn't a disgrace for a club that's been in the old 3rd division recently. If anyone thinks it is then fair enough, but I personally think that's a daft view to hold. Stoke get 27,000 and are playing at the absolute extent of their potential (way beyond it in fact as they are bankrolled). I'm not disputing their relative league positions as obviously that would be absurd. They were amongst the promotion favourites though, we got 44,000 down there in the ccc, and there was no evidence to suggest they'd go any lower. I think 23,000 is abysmal for a club within a city of their size regardless what leagues they've been in. Man City even did better than that, and look at Norwich their grounds been sold out for years, and they stayed down in league one for a while.

That's just ignorant on so many levels. They've won 1 league title and 1 fucking FA Cup. Their European Cup wins were against Hamburg and might Malmo all within a 12 month period. Whereas NUFC up to 1972 (joint with Arsenal) were the most successful club in English footballing history. Were you not aware of that? Sammy Wakefield is 7 miles from Leeds, that's like saying Whitley Bay and North Shields aren't our areas, while the pop. of the city of Leeds is 815,000 alone, that's like the whole of Tyneside in the actual city.

Their history began in 1966 and ended in 1975 though largely speaking, apart from a title win in front of 25,000 supporters in 1992. It's a rugby/cricket town. Being the self proclaimed biggest club in Yorkshire they should have 80,000 people wanting to see them play, their local fanbase should be on paper as big as Man Utd's. It shouldn't like, because they've got Bradford on the doorstep and that's a bigger population than you think (without getting into the ethnicity of Bradford and whether it's a 'football' town). Leeds are clearly a fair sized team that have matched a large northern city status to a good few trophies. Can hardly knock them on that score. For me it's just about the fact that their fans are dickheads (to the extent that lots of their own fans acknowledge this). You're right about their historical peaks though being a relatively brief window, which appears even more stark given they changed their home colours during this period as though they had no history worth preserving. That bit would be absolutely unthinkable to us (and most clubs tbf). Leeds and Wakefield together is about 1.3m and that's not even including Bradford which is half asian anyway. Manchester and Salford together isn't even that, and they have Man City there too. Leeds on paper imo should've been historically one of the biggest clubs in the country, when the reality is but for the countries perception of their rivalry with Man Utd (some type of wanky war of the roses pish) they're not even the size of the mackems.

Their history began in 1966 and ended in 1975 though largely speaking, apart from a title win in front of 25,000 supporters in 1992. It's a rugby/cricket town. Being the self proclaimed biggest club in Yorkshire they should have 80,000 people wanting to see them play, their local fanbase should be on paper as big as Man Utd's.

Average height of Barcelona's team is 5ft8.

Read the link on RTG, and it strikes me how passionate Sunderland fans get about Celtic and Rangers, sticking up for them, holding opinions, and actually displaying sectarianism. Why is that? Almost to a man we just don't give a fuck about them, and look down our nose at them as an insignificance, the same as many of us do about Sunderland.

From Ashington too, due a good player from Ashington.

Two nothing clubs. Leeds have never and will never be a big club, regardless how many people tell you they are. They are incomparable to NUFC as a club.

Nothing you wouldn't expect. Complete scumbags, like they'll die scumbags.

There's times in their history when Gateshead have been a much bigger and better supported club than Grimsby. Aye and Grimsby v Wolves in the FA Cup Semi final is the biggest attendance at Old Trafford, they're still fuck all compared to Man Utd like. Grimsby get 3k in the Conference, and had 9/10k average attendance like 10 years ago, it's a fucking disgrace what happened to the club. So fuck between 1976 and 2000 Blyth's 44,000 crowd in 1978 beat anything Newcastle could do....and no they didn't average 9/10,000 10 years ago. That's what i'm saying, it's clear Grimsby are a much bigger club than Gateshead regardless of one or two times Gateshead may have had better attendances, I mean Grimsbys average away following last year was the same as Hayes and Yeadings average home following. They got 9k on many occasions 10 years ago and in 02/03 they even averaged 6k... a year where they got absolutely humiliated in the league. Saying Gateshead are a bigger side than Grimsby would be like saying Burnley are a bigger side than Newcastle purely based on 2009/10 season. Especially not even breaking into average attendances in the 1000s in the BSP, that's a shambles Much bigger clubs than Grimsby in the BSP.

One of my mates lives near to where the Academy play and goes to just about every game. He's mentioned this kid, Adam Campbell a few times, he's just turned 16, he;s 5ft5 and he really believes he's that good he's going to be the English Messi. I'm always like aye, aye, aye whatever, but I've just read the nufc.com U18 match report and he certainly seems to have something. Anyway we've got a £100 bet on that he won't start a toon game by 4/10/13, he says he will I say he won't cos I'm a cynical cunt. Has anyone else seen this kid? Look at the match report, scored from his own half too.

Stopped reading after 2 paragraphs as it screamed I am a yank writing about football at me.

There's times in their history when Gateshead have been a much bigger and better supported club than Grimsby. Aye and Grimsby v Wolves in the FA Cup Semi final is the biggest attendance at Old Trafford, they're still fuck all compared to Man Utd like. Grimsby get 3k in the Conference, and had 9/10k average attendance like 10 years ago, it's a fucking disgrace what happened to the club. So fuck between 1976 and 2000 Blyth's 44,000 crowd in 1978 beat anything Newcastle could do....and no they didn't average 9/10,000 10 years ago.

There's times in their history when Gateshead have been a much bigger and better supported club than Grimsby.

That'll be the finish of them nuw. Gateshead 1 Wrexham 4 the neet

There's nee way DEADMAN is real it's deein me head in now. Will someone come clean.

See the mackems are moving away fans from their South Stand to the North West Corner up a height like we used to. Will sound like a home game for us up there when we go.

One of his best mates was Fidel Castro and when he was at Napoli all of his Neopolitan mates were mafia bosses. He was nee David Platt, and no one from this current generation of players will usurp him including Messi. Zidane, Matthaus or Gullit greatest European players ever, all for slightly different reasons.

Look like the mafia are so ingrained in Italian society they even have played a massive part in the judicial system ethic as well.

Nah, you're right. Both would scrape in to the "they'd dee" category though.