Park Life

Someone needs to look at all the decisions that go Liverpools way in Europe it's getting to be a joke.

Can you spell out why it is abusing a right? The banners as stated in the article would be distasteful imo, but that is about it. If you have freedom of speech (and demonstration) it has to apply to all to work.

"Cruyff then spent many years away from FC Barcelona as a player and manager, until finally returning to the club as manager in 1988. When he returned to Barcelona, Cruyff brought with him the so-called "Dream Team". This elite squad was composed of Spaniards Jon Andoni Goikoetxea, Jose Mari Bakero, Josep Guardiola, Txiki Beguiristain, along with international stars Romanian Gheorghe Hagi, Bulgarian Hristo Stoichkov, Dane Michael Laudrup, Brazilian Romario, and Dutchman Ronald Koeman. Under Cruyff's direction, the Dream Team went on to win four consecutive La Liga titles from 1991 to 1994. They won the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1989 and the European Cup in 1992 at Wembley Stadium with a famous free kick goal courtesy of Ronald Koeman. In 1990, the Dream Team won a Copa del Rey, the European Super Cup in '92, and three Supercopa de Espana. Cruyff remains FC Barcelona's most successful manager to date, with eleven trophies to his name. He also has the distinction of being the club's longest serving manager. He continues to be an advisor for FC Barcelona president Joan Laporta, whom he openly endorsed during the elections. To this day, he is still revered by FC Barcelona fans, who call him "El Salvador" (The Saviour) for his successful run as both player and coach at the club."

Title says "Fantasy manager showdown. Does it not young man?"

"As a player, Brian Clough is remembered as a goalscoring phenomenon with Middlesbrough, scoring 197 goals in 213 league matches for his hometown club. But his progress towards similar fame in the top division was cut short by a knee injury which ended his career when he was 27, so now he is far better known as the iconoclastic manager who revived two ailing clubs. Clough led Derby County to the league championship in 1972, then repeated the trick with Nottingham Forest in 1978 and topped it by winning the European Cup in successive seasons in 1979 and 1980. At the height of his managerial career, Clough's was the most imitated voice in the land. "Hey, young man!" ... Everybody was at it, from public bar to press room to the television screen, where impersonator Mike Yarwood got the nasal whine off pat. Michael Sheen, who plays Clough in the new film of David Peace's novel, The Damned United, about Clough's 44 unhappy days in charge of Leeds United at the start of the 1974-75 season, is not Yarwood revisited. He has the speech inflections, the facial expressions and even looks a bit like the thirtysomething Clough of the early 70s - but the mix of humour and acerbity is not quite there. The real Clough was easy to know but harder to really get to know. He was never aloof but he could be distant, and you were never sure how seriously he was taking himself. After Derby had played at Leicester City one night, Clough had a stand-up row about press relations with the man from the Daily Telegraph, and stalked out in apparent high dudgeon. But on catching up with him in the car park, he was laughing and joking and bidding one and all a cheery good night." Out of these two who would you have taken to manage the toon? A young Brian Clough or an emerging Johan Cruijf?

An issue which can hide all manner of abuses, the same justification can be used to allow spying on anyone at any time, forced use of lie detectors, or even torture (makes the police's job VERY easy ). But that doesn't make any of it right. And that not is just not correct, although it's a bogeyman Government's love to use to get dodgy things through (much like "Lord" Mandelson himself ). The dark Lord.

Winston Smith scurried away from the inner sanctum worried and confused if not drained of the will to live: "The statement said: "BCS believes strongly that the process being used to introduce Information Sharing Orders as part of a much larger Bill concerned with other matters precludes sufficient public debate, discussion and Parliamentary scrutiny of proposals that involve novel and very general - some would say draconian - powers of great significance to every UK citizen and organisation." Ian Ryder, BCS deputy CEO, said all the responses received from members agreed on one thing: "These proposals are far too ill-defined and general for their stated purpose, and are as a result potentially dangerous, and will do more harm than good." Ryder added that the laws, used wrongly, "would permit the restriction - and ultimately the destruction - of the right to personal and corporate data privacy". The British Medical Association has also criticised the bill, and asked what problem the law was trying to solve. "The BMA is not aware of any problems with legitmate information exchanges to which this clause would be the solution." The doctors' group said that clause 152 of the bill "could potentially allow any Health Secretary access to individual health records. And it is very worrying that this Bill would allow a Secretay of State to strip patients and doctors of rights in relation to the control of sensitive health information."

Preparations grow apace for the arrival of the dark one.

"This theory is very much based on Phillip K Dicks novel VALIS, where he speaks of an Apollo character and Hologrammetric space*" Yes.

not seen that, is it a sequel? mad genius? Might watch it again tonight. With a few less monkeys obviously.

Batman Begins is my fav Batman film of all time.

aye he is technically very good and has a ferocious shot - would probably do well alongside a runner/tackler in the midfield like nolan - doubt he would come to us like

In 21 monkeys is the Brad Pitt character actually mad or a genius?

I dont drink Why? Cos ive got no interest in it anymore. the idea of spunking £30-£60 on a single night out and then a day recovering just doesnt appeal. at one time getting completely spackered was very important to me but i kinda got out of the habit of going out every other day and started spending my money on other things (like buying 7 copies of the same film on dvd ). You used to drink, so that doesn't count. You can be trusted. Nearly always when I come across someone who doesn't drink, some light delving soon reveals you have a nutter on your hands.

You see, that is why you can't be trusted.

I dont drink Why? Cos hes cool Its always the first question people ask me when they find out I dont drink. Like im some sort of freak cos i dont get mingning every weekend. They expect me to be a recovering alcoholic or have some sort of medical reason. They cant quite fathom that I just dont want to But why? You don't like the taste? You don't like the feeling? You want to stay in total unabated robotic control of all things at all times? What?

I dont drink Why?

That's one of the major issues you don't have to. What do you think they baby did? Lord Ewerk before the next election. What I mean is, If my DNA were ever to be put onto a database i dont plan on giving the police an excuse to use it. The database is there to feed in evidence from murders, rapes, robberies etc. They arent going to be swabbing crisp packets youve dropped on the street. I dont see why law abiding people would have an issue with having their DNA kept by the police. If it means they are more likely to catch the next twat that breaks into my house or the next bloke trying to bomb the tube then all the better i say Miurphy's Law?

That occurs in a few places, but I don't think it's any more successful in general at getting people off it than methadone is (and methadone is basically useless as breaking the addiction, just ok at swapping it). I mean there are odd cases of functional heroin addicts, but that doesn't mean most are, or that those that might try it if it were legal would be. And even if there were it would still go back to the "drug class" issue. Bring unable to keep drugs out a prison says a lot mind, although it's mostly about how badly any "war" is being fought. The scheme involved gradual weaning off by ever decreasing amounts being prescribed. The programme suggested the statistics were a lot better than those for methadone schemes. Difficult to say when it's just done in one area with quite a small sample etc. The point though is more about how government policy panders to moral outrage and outdated attitudes rather than what actually works or works better than what we have at present. Youre basing this theory on the fact that heroin addicts want to get off the heroin. Most of the ones I know are quite happy taking heroin and have no fancy to get off it. Say what you like, the fact drugs are illegal makes them harder to come by and therefore less people get hooked. If you legalise it and open it up to the masses your opening up pandoras box. For every normal bloke who can snort a few lines and live his life normally theres another 10 numbskulls who will take it as an opportunity to shove as much shit as they can into their system and OD or become addicted. I think you are vastly overestimating the average British man/woman today with some of the comments above. I refer you again to alcohol. Freely available and look at how many idiots abuse that and cant moderate their intake. At least alcohol tends to be longer term side effects. Ecstacy, Cocaine, Amphetamines, Heroin etc. can have catastrophic effects after just one dose It's not my theory for one thing. Secondly I already said any scheme needs the person involved to want to come off the drugs. Thirdly, point to where I've advocated widespread legalisation of drugs like heroin. In other words, try reading what I actually wrote. Well it could be worse man, imagine being sad enough to announce to everyone you're leaving a message board as you can't take the grief anymore, then signing up under a pseudo as not to be recognise. I'm so glad that my dabbling in narcotics has never meant I've done something as stupid as that. In the grand scheme of things its not really top of the sad mountain is it not like, say . . . . taking lots of drugs cos my personality is a bit shit otherwise And alex, my message was aimed at the general attitude in this thread rather than directly at you. You really haven't got the first idea tbh. I respect the fact you chose not to take drugs or alcohol, and that is your choice. What I don't respect is your patronising attitude to something you don't have the first clue about. The fact that you consider yourself better than someone who dabbles in the above. The fact that you see fit to mention all of the time that you don't do any of these. I don't push my beliefs on others, if they don't take anything I'm not going to force them to do that. Much like if I never did I wouldn't preach how wrong I think things are and look down on people for doing so. I don't really trust anyone who doesn't drink.

Fuckwitery is always highest in these threads for some reason.

Agree with much of that..'Achtung Baby' was a beautiful leap in the dark and then for me they kinda got bloated with silliness. For me 'Achtung Baby' was the album they could have stopped after. I am wondering if there is one big album left in them...Maybe not. Then again its taken me a week or so to start to connect to No Line. I suspect they need a 'mad' producer to scare the shit out of them in the studio and find what truth is left....if any...

46 Perhaps over the next 20 years he has the chance to be the best club manager of all time...? Non?

How old is 'The Special One'?

So far I like Magnificent, Ceders of Lebanon and the single.

Wish him all the best.