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"Concern over the issue of civil liberties will be further amplified by news yesterday that commuters using Oyster smart cards could have their movements around cities secretly monitored under new counter-terrorism powers being sought by the security services, and that children would be automatically enrolled on the DNA database should they exhibit normal childish misbehaviour." The good old Oyestercard.

Put young children on DNA list, urge police · 'We must target potential offenders' · Teachers' fury over 'dangerous' plan Mark Townsend and Anushka Asthana The Observer, Sunday March 16 2008 Primary school children should be eligible for the DNA database if they exhibit behaviour indicating they may become criminals in later life, according to Britain's most senior police forensics expert. Gary Pugh, director of forensic sciences at Scotland Yard and the new DNA spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), said a debate was needed on how far Britain should go in identifying potential offenders, given that some experts believe it is possible to identify future offending traits in children as young as five. 'If we have a primary means of identifying people before they offend, then in the long-term the benefits of targeting younger people are extremely large,' said Pugh. 'You could argue the younger the better. Criminologists say some people will grow out of crime; others won't. We have to find who are possibly going to be the biggest threat to society.' Orwell will be turning in his grave. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/mar...ustice.children

Without an expensive chance making production line around him he adds very little value to the side.

sometimes he deserves it, Ive not been on RAWK for a while but Im guessing they're laughing their little scouse tits off at that comparison. Tbf that will be how the article has been spun though. Keegan is saying Viduka can score goals out of nothing like Torres did the other night (which is true), not that Viduka is as good as Torres or that he will be as succesful as him. The media are scum, but they're clever scum, as demonstrated by the number of people leaping to 'OMG Keegan is deluded' after reading that headline. There is some delusion about him I can feel it.

Even better than when Phil Stamp first came through the ranks at Burra? Better than Gazza imho. Gazza's still quicker than him. Parrot on shoulder or not.

I love calling people on their flaky commitment to a point of view like. The most ironic I found from Rico's over that couple of days wasn't this one though.... http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...st&p=427667 It was this one... http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...st&p=428067

Bang on. The last thing we can be accused of as a failing is patience. What about all of those chanting Big Sam for England etc when we played Liverpool earlier on this season? Was that not impatience? Turning up at a football match with a shirt on is just a ritual. Supporting a club is a whole other thing. There are people who post here and other places where that shines through. You probably know who they are better than me.

You live in outer space? The furthest point away from the toon is 12,480 miles away. If you dug a hole down through the centre circle of SJP and kept going through the earths core and through the other side, you would come out in the South Pacific Ocean, about 200 miles south of New Zealand. Just being pedantic. You in Buenos Aires like? Could well fancy going to the Superclasico at La Bombanera sometimes. Are English people treat well in Argentina, or are they still moaning about us sinking that ship? You make it sound like we accidentally left the tap running

It's all relative. I don't remember us ever being 2 points from the drop. I do remember a manager being slated for bigging up smith, dropping zog, excluding enrique, targetting scottish league players and talking endless shite. I also remember making the point, if Keegan came in, was shite and left, what then for NUFC? We might well find out soon. You're a cunt....end of End of what? As if anyone ever starts a thread waiting for a worthwhile reply from your little dwarf fingers. 'Jog on' as they say, or rather, shuffle off. "Shuffle off"...Made me chuckle anyway. Must say Ringo you're a game little fighter the natives still haven't found the killer weapon.

Fuckin ell Nicos is on the case guv.

And then taking a huge dividend to boot. Let's not get started about storage space leasing arrangements.

Oh please just be quiet and go watch lost or better still clueless! If you want to show me other fig go ahead. He's invested his money in HIS asset the club. He hasn't significantly invested in the first team (not even paying the debt counts). My point being the papers like to dress it up in a kind of language that makes our situation look more comical/dire. ie "He's invested £250m"..etc. He hasn't he has bought an asset the team hasn't directly benefitted. However I think there is enough ambition in MA and hopefully we'll see it in the summer.

Fuck off he doesn't. The useless prick spent 26m buying 8 players that became his first choice. If you couldn't see the shite he was churning out then you obviously weren't looking! No denying the football wasn't great I totally agree. And his vision was flawed. He spent £8m net and we lost a couple of goodish players in Solano (semi-creative) and Dyer (pace). We also sold Parker who's worth is debatable but no less a loss to an already weakened squad. Two/Three (not sure if some money changed hands for Geremi) of the eight were free transfers on their last legs. I wish people would stop dressing up that transfer window for something it wasn't. It was cautious (for whatever reason) and SA had to fill holes at the back to begin with as you'd probably agree. In saying that I was disappointed in his approach on many levels, but he did have a very low base to begin with and seemed to be building things up regarding the infrastructure of the club. Beye and Faye were solid buys and Enrique would have turned out to be if long term imo.

For the record we won't be relegated.

You're picking on me as usual cause you love me.

So whats changed since the Blackburn game to raise your concerns? That game was our best this season BTW Well, I'm just a bit worried that the teams below us are making more of an effort, I really didn't expect Reading to get anything from Man City for example. Maybe I'm just having a dip in optomism, I know on paper we should theoretically have an easier run in than some but it's deffo a squeaky bum moment for me at the mo. I wasn't surprised to see Reading beat Man City. Reading will be safe I reckon. As has been said a few times now, if we want to get out of trouble, we need three points from Birmingham. We might lose to Birmingham. But we need to win those 2/3 home games against weaker sides.

Bang on. The last thing we can be accused of as a failing is patience. Loads of fans are dead impatient though. Loads of fans are dumbasses as well.

Very much so. I mean what part of "You saw Fernando Torres the other night score a goal [for Liverpool] when a lot of players would have taken another touch, and Mark comes into that category, too. He doesn’t need a lot of space, he can do the unexpected.” says he is as good as Torres? Like you say, people bitching for the sake of it. Id have Viduka ahead of Smith up front any game. Id also prefer a fully fit Viduka/Owen than Martins/Owen and Viduka has strength up front. For the record I'm not having a pop at KK. Oh, my mistake then. Across the many boards I roam I'm still sticking up for him as you well know.

Bang on. The last thing we can be accused of as a failing is patience.

Very much so. I mean what part of "You saw Fernando Torres the other night score a goal [for Liverpool] when a lot of players would have taken another touch, and Mark comes into that category, too. He doesn’t need a lot of space, he can do the unexpected.” says he is as good as Torres? Like you say, people bitching for the sake of it. Id have Viduka ahead of Smith up front any game. Id also prefer a fully fit Viduka/Owen than Martins/Owen and Viduka has strength up front. For the record I'm not having a pop at KK.

The entire country for a start. I think it really is mostly the media. Big hype big fall stylee...The old formula. We're not that important in the scheme of things.

Well he's not going to the press and say he thinks he's a lazy, worthless piece of shit is he? He's always been good at motivating the troops man. Yeah but this is just delusional. What has he exactly said that's delusional though? Viduka patently can't be anything like Torres 99% of the time. If he's saying that in that one moment he can do the unexpected that's fair enough I guess. I don't want to be too hard on KK. Motivating players only makes sense if the player themselves can believe it. Worth a go I guess. If he's saying that? But he isn't really saying that. He's saying that on the whole they have similar assets which is patent bollocks. I've watered it down cause I like him - as you would do for you mate when he starts rambling in the pub. I must have missed the part where he said Viduka had Torres' pace combined with his movement then and a desire and hunger that he has. On the whole indeed. Ask yourself why make such a dumb comparison in the first place? It's embarrassing. We both realise he meant that both can score the odd unexpected goal in the box....At the end of the day so what? I'm sure as you are clearly aware this is a motivational workout, but my god has it come to this? How is it a dumb comparison? He only mentioned Torres due to that goal the other evening, that's all. Viduka can score out of nothing, he's proven that plenty of times over his career. Ok.

The 'winnable games' will soon be here no worries mate. That was aimed at PP and the thread in general, not you. If I remember correctly, people were saying exactly the same thing about Allardyce after twice as many games as Keegan's had. It's not a Messiah complex in the least bit, just common sense that a bloke that's had 8 games, 6 against top 7 opposition shouldn't even be questioned on why he hasn't 'turned it around' yet. Get a grip and "stop posting shite". Just trying to get rid of some tension before I watch 'Lost'.

Well he's not going to the press and say he thinks he's a lazy, worthless piece of shit is he? He's always been good at motivating the troops man. Yeah but this is just delusional. What has he exactly said that's delusional though? Viduka patently can't be anything like Torres 99% of the time. If he's saying that in that one moment he can do the unexpected that's fair enough I guess. I don't want to be too hard on KK. Motivating players only makes sense if the player themselves can believe it. Worth a go I guess. If he's saying that? But he isn't really saying that. He's saying that on the whole they have similar assets which is patent bollocks. I've watered it down cause I like him - as you would do for you mate when he starts rambling in the pub. I must have missed the part where he said Viduka had Torres' pace combined with his movement then and a desire and hunger that he has. On the whole indeed. Ask yourself why make such a dumb comparison in the first place? It's embarrassing. We both realise he meant that both can score the odd unexpected goal in the box....At the end of the day so what? I'm sure as you are clearly aware this is a motivational workout, but my god has it come to this?