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All the rocket tech and nukes they got from Germans. The first road cars were also invented by Germans, Benz if I iirc..I thought Konrad Zuse (yes Renton not an american name ) the GERMAN invented the first computer in 1936... Soooo, I'll give you consumer goods. Is there really any point of the likes of you and tooner posting in this thread, it is beyond doubt you are both ridiculously knowledgeless... Peace. Virtually all Americans are basically immigrants anyway though so that's why you can argue idea 1) 2) or 3) originally came from x, y or z but it says a lot about the country that those ideas were able to flourish in America. Don't think Benz was an immigrant mate. Nazi Germany was light years ahead of the rest of the world in terms of hi tech stuff hence Von Braun and the rocket programme and the heavy water plants in the mountains. America on the other hand history records wiped out the native Americans and followed it with the use of mass slavery.

cos they could afford it. we couldnt as we'd just given them all wor cash (in a manner of speaking). How had we just given them all our cash if they'd just given us massive loans? Don't think too hard about that one btw. well duh! hark at you. at that point we were massively in debt to them. therefore they were flush (lots of assets you see) and we wernt. i was always told that the loans were in the form of material goods anyway, not cash. ie they then gave us material goods (tanks, bullets, food etc.) and we paid them back over the following 50 odd years. Still means they were solvent and we wernt. basic finances, you should try it sometimes! The previous post re: the dishwashers etc. was a flippant one but that doesn't alter the fact that the US made us financially better off after the war than we would have been had they not supplied the loans etc. They were richer than us, aye, but we were skint because of the war, not because we'd just given America all our money, which was what you said. They actually supplied us with stuff we needed at a fraction of its true cost. It was stuff we needed as well. As an aside, I think a lot of the problems with post-War Britain was a resistance to modernisation. This stretched well beyond the immediate post-war years into the 60s and 70s. You have to wonder why so many other countries even more devastated by war were able to cope so much better in this period. Personally I put it down to the ruling classes clinging onto power, land and so on. That would be the same ruling classes who organised the war.

All the rocket tech and nukes they got from Germans. The first road cars were also invented by Germans, Benz if I iirc..I thought Konrad Zuse (yes Renton not an american name ) the GERMAN invented the first computer in 1936... Soooo, I'll give you consumer goods. Is there really any point of the likes of you and tooner posting in this thread, it is beyond doubt you are both ridiculously knowledgeless... Peace.

Course it is. There's no arguing with people who are willfully ignorant. Pointless to even try. ...CID....all due respect, I hope you don't count me in that number for anti-amercan drivel, I was just trying to point out to Stevie/Barrack that contrary to his belief, you guys DID swing the balance in WW2 Course I'm not counting you, man. And Stevie's never going to believe we swung the balance any more than he'll believe that a club like Everton could possibly ever be important because of their support. That's why I'm saying it's pointless to try. Maybe you hastened it, but it was an inevitability. We have the Russians to thank in the war for splitting the German war machine, as we would've been in major trouble if we were the only one fighting them long term, but we weren't preparing for war for 10 years like Germany, we don't have America to thank for anything, we gave them technology 40 years in advance of what they had for nothing, and what did they give us in return? A 50 year debt burden for arming us. I know plenty of people who respect America less than me as well. Embarrassment of a nation, ultimately our creation so you could say we have no one to blame but ourselves. Who's asking you to thank us for anything? You're the one who brought America up in the first place in this thread. It's like a lot of your other posts in general chat where you crowbar in some somewhat random opinion on a topic, then when people ask you for proof regarding your seemingly controversial stance on said topic, you change the subject. In this thread you've said that England didn't need the Americans to win WWII, but you seem like you're bent out of shape because we sat on the sidelines too long. Which is it? We should have helped out sooner or you didn't need the help at all? Not that it really matters of course, because all this really boils down to another vehicle for you to bitch about America and Americans. You hate America (Russia, et al), embarassment of a nation, bunch of cunts, etc., etc. and just like all your other opinions, nobody is going to change your mind. We get it. Now, how about that Landon Donovan? Well it might have helped if you weren't finacing both sides.

Aye that's what my David Icke book says. I spose you could snack on yer geeetar.

Let's put the wars aside a minute the criminal, fraudulent and destructive american banking system is single handedly fucking up the financial viability of 3/4 of the planet. It is the worlds biggest polluter bar none, it is the first worlds most undereducated country by a mile....IT IS A FUCKING BASKET CASE. I can only think some people in this thread are watching Top Gun round the clock.

What loans are these? http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodg...loan-2009-3..... how does 12 zeros grab ya? They're treasuries, highly unlikely that China can call them in at will. They cashed some just recently actually.

Correct. It's ironic I'm having to defend America so much considering how much certain posters have accused me of being anti-American or even a 'hater of the West'. Crazy that some people can't see the enormous contribution the Americans have made as well as the occassional balls up. If it carries on American will certainly do one thing and that is fuck up the whole planet. And they are well on the way there already...

ok, let me preface this with hearty "i'm not sympathetic to the american war machine" however south Korea wouldn't exist if the Americans had been pasted in Korea if anything it was a draw, as for Vietnam they lost but it was a lot like last year for us, the team they/we had in Vietnam/the PL was good enough to win, but the dumb fekkers in charge had no fucking clue so they/we lost/were relegated. When Chinese tank divisions started lining up on the Korean border Uncle Sam hi tailed it outta there quick time styleee. FACT. Btw I'd have gone all the way in Korea and S Korea would never have existed...Americans were lucky they caught a deal imo. Let's see what happens with Taiwan...ho ho.. If China invaded it tomorrow america would do nothing.

I would advise anybody with access to growing land to start utilising it...Food prices will continue increasing. Stuff you grow yourself is infinitely better for you.

Whenever America has actually fought anybody who can fight back (Vietnam, Korea) they have taken an almight pasting. Even with the Japs they had to drop the bomb in the end the level of bungling involved in taking tiny 3 coconut tree islands that was going on...

Cheers Rob. The Parkenstien bit is tongue in cheek. You should know me by now fella. **Gets back to timetable analysis.

And what would be the point of that?? To teach the smug fuckers a lesson You can't fight love my friend.

Growing of food should be taught at schools.

She looks very fuckable in a Janpanes school girl kinda way. Good luck to the fella.

You should look into is Steven, perhaps start a seed bank.

These are the ones I have just sewn yesterday in a propagator. Will then transplant them into pots in the conservatory before planting out. Im sure there are loads more you could plant depending on your tastes. Bean Chereoke Trail of Tears Cauliflower Romanesco Ottobrino Lettuce Mix Mange Tout Oregon Sugar Pod Peas Climbing Telephone Raddish Mixed Easter Egg Sweet Peppers Yollo Wonder Sweet Peppers Banana Sweet Corn Dolce Lettuce Iceberg Great Lakes 118 Lettuce Little Gem Peas Petoi Pois Waverix Tomatoes Tigerella Which are the ones where I can just chuck the seeds into the soil without too much aggro??

And what would be the point of that??

Peace and Love to all. P.

Aye.

What veggies should I be planting in April??

I'd think that was rubbish Parky. Americans (on average) are amongst the biggest consumers of healthcare in the world, they spend twice as much as their GDP on healthcare as we do (with no better results). I would think rationalizing their system to something resembling the NHS or most other European countries would result in massive job losses. Not that that would be a bad thing, particularly for the middle men. Seems a bit strange you're advocating this anyway giving your views on medicine? They spend more on healthcare as per gdp cause they don't know what they're doing. Nah, we spend more on healthcare because there are too many hands between my wallet and the doctor's. See the Graph. Americans get much less bang for their buck than any comparable country, and ironically this is down to your shunning of social medicine and your love of the free market. It simply doesn't work for healthcare. Yeah that as well.