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I think it would, but I suspect a lettuce and tomato sandwich (white bread? ;) ) wouldn't meet their criteria anyway.

 

As a former chef, The risk of infection from correctly prepared salad is negligible.

White bread per se is not unhealthy, it's usually what it's eaten with that bumps up the calories.

To satisfy the stringent "experienced in subject" criteria demanded by certain fellows on this very thread, I can supply a full C.V. with references from my catering days. :icon_lol:

cue 4 day argument over merits of white bread.( is that racist btw, shouldn't it be "bleached flour bread")

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I think it would, but I suspect a lettuce and tomato sandwich (white bread? ;) ) wouldn't meet their criteria anyway.

 

As a former chef, The risk of infection from correctly prepared salad is negligible.

White bread per se is not unhealthy, it's usually what it's eaten with that bumps up the calories.

To satisfy the stringent "experienced in subject" criteria demanded by certain fellows on this very thread, I can supply a full C.V. with references from my catering days. :icon_lol:

cue 4 day argument over merits of white bread.( is that racist btw, shouldn't it be "bleached flour bread")

 

 

In the take away van they probably just use their hands to toss it.

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I think it would, but I suspect a lettuce and tomato sandwich (white bread? ;) ) wouldn't meet their criteria anyway.

 

As a former chef, The risk of infection from correctly prepared salad is negligible.

White bread per se is not unhealthy, it's usually what it's eaten with that bumps up the calories.

To satisfy the stringent "experienced in subject" criteria demanded by certain fellows on this very thread, I can supply a full C.V. with references from my catering days. :D

cue 4 day argument over merits of white bread.( is that racist btw, shouldn't it be "bleached flour bread")

 

 

In the take away van they probably just use their hands to toss it.

So Long as they've washed em', fine.

Anyway, tossed salad in a takeaway van- you must live in Jesmond :icon_lol:

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I think it would, but I suspect a lettuce and tomato sandwich (white bread? ;) ) wouldn't meet their criteria anyway.

 

As a former chef, The risk of infection from correctly prepared salad is negligible.

White bread per se is not unhealthy, it's usually what it's eaten with that bumps up the calories.

To satisfy the stringent "experienced in subject" criteria demanded by certain fellows on this very thread, I can supply a full C.V. with references from my catering days. :icon_lol:

cue 4 day argument over merits of white bread.( is that racist btw, shouldn't it be "bleached flour bread")

 

Aye, but have you ever seen that in one of those vans?

 

White bread is pretty bad, both in the context of fibre, often salt and that it spikes your metabolism.

 

Never mind when you get into the salad cream/coleslaw issue (both bacterially and calorie-wise - and likely to be the issue in most "dodgy kebab" experiences).

 

 

 

The fried stuff comparatively is usually pretty safe.

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so long as the prepared salad is stored in a cool container, it's fine.

Hot food must be stored above 64C for safety, served at 75C if reheated.

the crucial factor in all is the length of time any foods are stored.

Lettuce, washed and stored correctly, will usually keep for 2-3 days.

 

and yes, most vans that bother with fresh salad, in my experience,can and do prepare it correctly.It ain't brain surgery ffs.

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Here we go.........

so long as the prepared salad is stored in a cool container, it's fine.

Hot food must be stored above 64C for safety, served at 75C if reheated.

the crucial factor in all is the length of time any foods are stored.

Lettuce, washed and stored correctly, will usually keep for 2-3 days.

 

and yes, most vans that bother with fresh salad, in my experience,can and do prepare it correctly.It ain't brain surgery ffs.

Yep those maybe the rules, but are they followed? (and I shudder to think how long supermarket prepare salad has been stood as that can be rotting before you get it to the checkout)

 

And the coleslaw and salad cream/dressing?

 

 

 

Plus that then all goes back to the cost issue.

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Here we go.........

so long as the prepared salad is stored in a cool container, it's fine.

Hot food must be stored above 64C for safety, served at 75C if reheated.

the crucial factor in all is the length of time any foods are stored.

Lettuce, washed and stored correctly, will usually keep for 2-3 days.

 

and yes, most vans that bother with fresh salad, in my experience,can and do prepare it correctly.It ain't brain surgery ffs.

You used to be a chef though. What would you know about it? ;)

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Here we go.........

so long as the prepared salad is stored in a cool container, it's fine.

Hot food must be stored above 64C for safety, served at 75C if reheated.

the crucial factor in all is the length of time any foods are stored.

Lettuce, washed and stored correctly, will usually keep for 2-3 days.

 

and yes, most vans that bother with fresh salad, in my experience,can and do prepare it correctly.It ain't brain surgery ffs.

Yep those maybe the rules, but are they followed? (and I shudder to think how long supermarket prepare salad has been stood as that can be rotting before you get it to the checkout)

 

And the coleslaw and salad cream/dressing?

 

 

 

Plus that then all goes back to the cost issue.

 

How do you assure that they have followed the rule for meat preparation?

 

A bit of salad costs fuck all so it's not a cost issue.

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Here we go.........

so long as the prepared salad is stored in a cool container, it's fine.

Hot food must be stored above 64C for safety, served at 75C if reheated.

the crucial factor in all is the length of time any foods are stored.

Lettuce, washed and stored correctly, will usually keep for 2-3 days.

 

and yes, most vans that bother with fresh salad, in my experience,can and do prepare it correctly.It ain't brain surgery ffs.

You used to be a chef though. What would you know about it? ;)

Have you ever seen most "chefs"? :D

 

I dare you to get a look at most kitchens and then still eat the food that comes out. :icon_lol:

 

 

Here we go.........

so long as the prepared salad is stored in a cool container, it's fine.

Hot food must be stored above 64C for safety, served at 75C if reheated.

the crucial factor in all is the length of time any foods are stored.

Lettuce, washed and stored correctly, will usually keep for 2-3 days.

 

and yes, most vans that bother with fresh salad, in my experience,can and do prepare it correctly.It ain't brain surgery ffs.

Yep those maybe the rules, but are they followed? (and I shudder to think how long supermarket prepare salad has been stood as that can be rotting before you get it to the checkout)

 

And the coleslaw and salad cream/dressing?

 

 

 

Plus that then all goes back to the cost issue.

 

How do you assure that they have followed the rule for meat preparation?

 

A bit of salad costs fuck all so it's not a cost issue.

 

 

Like I said they way it's cooked and to some degree stored after takes out a lot of the risk. Where as something like coleslaw you're possibly better eating your kitchen dishcloth.

 

Have you seen how much salad has gone up recently? Not talking about more per gram than fillet prepared salad either.

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The cost can be reflected in the price. No one is going to be ordering it anyway.

 

That's Chezzy economics. ;)

The extra cost of paying lip service will be paid for by the price of something no one will likely buy anyway and certainly not for the extortionate price you have to charge to pay for it..... if anyone bought it in the first place. :icon_lol:

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The cost can be reflected in the price. No one is going to be ordering it anyway.

 

That's Chezzy economics. :icon_lol:

The extra cost of paying lip service will be paid for by the price of something no one will likely buy anyway and certainly not for the extortionate price you have to charge to pay for it..... if anyone bought it in the first place. :D

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Have you ever seen most "chefs"? :D

 

I dare you to get a look at most kitchens and then still eat the food that comes out. :icon_lol:

 

 

And the coleslaw and salad cream/dressing?

 

 

Like I said they way it's cooked and to some degree stored after takes out a lot of the risk. Where as something like coleslaw you're possibly better eating your kitchen dishcloth.

Good job I'm a Pacifist really, cheeky twat.

Where was the last pro kitchen you inspected then?

Have you any idea what you're on about .I would rather eat my own shit than eat a kebab. Whilst the outer 2-3 cms of 'meat'on a kebab is cooked, the inner is raw, with the core often still frozen.

As you are clearly the next Gordon Ramsay, I don't need to explain in how many ways the above is so wrong. Do I?

Salad any day.

btw fillet is overpriced and over-rated. Sirloin, or rump ;)

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You used to be a chef though. What would you know about it? ;)

What indeed? :icon_lol:

Fop > Expert in field > Everyone else. That is the accepted hierarchy on here. Fop will now confirm this by quoting my post and saying "You're so right :D". :(

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You used to be a chef though. What would you know about it? ;)

What indeed? :D

Fop > Expert in field > Everyone else. That is the accepted hierarchy on here. Fop will now confirm this by quoting my post and saying "You're so right :(". B)

I shall bow to his Michelin Stars....

or is that Nectar Points, never could tell :icon_lol:

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Have you ever seen most "chefs"? B)

 

I dare you to get a look at most kitchens and then still eat the food that comes out. B)

 

 

And the coleslaw and salad cream/dressing?

 

 

Like I said they way it's cooked and to some degree stored after takes out a lot of the risk. Where as something like coleslaw you're possibly better eating your kitchen dishcloth.

Good job I'm a Pacifist really, cheeky twat.

Where was the last pro kitchen you inspected then?

Have you any idea what you're on about .I would rather eat my own shit than eat a kebab. Whilst the outer 2-3 cms of 'meat'on a kebab is cooked, the inner is raw, with the core often still frozen.

As you are clearly the next Gordon Ramsay, I don't need to explain in how many ways the above is so wrong. Do I?

Salad any day.

btw fillet is overpriced and over-rated. Sirloin, or rump :D

Keswick. :( I wouldn't rather have eaten my own ;), but it might have made things more appetising, I bow to your superior knowledge in poo-eating. :icon_lol:

 

 

So that would be badly prepared/cooked kebab then? But..... surely that never happens if salad is never badly prepared/stored? :aye:

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You used to be a chef though. What would you know about it? ;)

What indeed? :D

Fop > Expert in field > Everyone else. That is the accepted hierarchy on here. Fop will now confirm this by quoting my post and saying "You're so right :(". B)

You're not though. :icon_lol:

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The cost can be reflected in the price. No one is going to be ordering it anyway.

 

That's Chezzy economics. ;)

The extra cost of paying lip service will be paid for by the price of something no one will likely buy anyway and certainly not for the extortionate price you have to charge to pay for it..... if anyone bought it in the first place. :icon_lol:

 

Lettuce from Tesco: 47p

Tomatoes from tesco: 66p

 

It's not exactly bank breaking stuff.

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You used to be a chef though. What would you know about it? ;)

What indeed? :D

Fop > Expert in field > Everyone else. That is the accepted hierarchy on here. Fop will now confirm this by quoting my post and saying "You're so right :(". B)

You're not though. :icon_lol:

Does that mean I'm even more wrong than you usually think I am? I'm so foncused. B)

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The cost can be reflected in the price. No one is going to be ordering it anyway.

 

That's Chezzy economics. ;)

The extra cost of paying lip service will be paid for by the price of something no one will likely buy anyway and certainly not for the extortionate price you have to charge to pay for it..... if anyone bought it in the first place. :icon_lol:

 

Lettuce from Tesco: 47p

Tomatoes from tesco: 66p

 

It's not exactly bank breaking stuff.

It is eventually if no one is paying for them, or at least you've got to pass to cost on via your other food sales.

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