Happy Face 29 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) Hmm, just looked into it, didn't realise we were on nearly £40mil for TV money alone! So chances are we made a loss last year, but if he can get us finishing 17th each season surely he will make a hefty profit with the wage bill at its current level? Which is what I said about him having learned nothing and jeopardising us again. I Don't see a "hefty" profit even with survival though. the profit league last year was... Man U £91.3m Arsenal £58.8m Livepool 24.9m Spurs £18.4m Birmingham £13.7m Everton £6.3m Wolves -£1.6m Fulham -£2.1m Mackems -£2.4m Bolton -£5.3m Blackburn -£6.8m Stoke -£7.8m Burnley -£8.9m Hull -£9.2m Chelsea -£11.4m Villa -£13.1m Wigan -£17m Portsmouth -£17m West Ham -£32.8m Mn City -£34.2m http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...we-1912244.html Given the top 4 have a model based on champions league qualification, the next best model Ashley could look at to try and turn a profit is Birmingham. I doubt their wage bill is significantly greater than ours. If he was able to match their profits year in year out...he might have recouped his loan to the club and be able to start turning a profit in ten years time. There's only 3 clubs there that actually turn a profit outside of the champions league. The cash cow theory is full of holes. Ineptitude is far more plausible. Edited February 7, 2011 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeForce 0 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Boring and sick of this topic. Sky have made it effectively impossible for a boycott to ever have an effect. A club can be run, with a wage structure, on tv money alone. All that will happen is if 52000 stop going he reduces the wage bill further and hopes to stay in the league. Plus, it is impossible to organise everyone not going unless you barracade the ground in which case police action will certainly be taken. He is only gonna leave if he dies or gets a silly offer. TV Money will keep him going provided NUFC stay up and he always has the club as an asset to sell. Therefore, those who claim to not be going for the good of the club, don't bother even thinking you are helping because your not and it is naive to think this way imo. He doesn't care. If people wanna ruin their saturday not going out of principle and allowing him to take away the best part of the week that is fine but I am gonna keep going simply because it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I'm convinced that he sees the fans as an annoyance and hinderance, not a benefit to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I'm convinced that he sees the fans as an annoyance and hinderance, not a benefit to the club. He's fast enough to use video of them in his tat ad's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I'm convinced that he sees the fans as an annoyance and hinderance, not a benefit to the club. He's fast enough to use video of them in his tat ad's I would imagine that's because they're free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoular 0 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Hmm, just looked into it, didn't realise we were on nearly £40mil for TV money alone! So chances are we made a loss last year, but if he can get us finishing 17th each season surely he will make a hefty profit with the wage bill at its current level? Which is what I said about him having learned nothing and jeopardising us again. I Don't see a "hefty" profit even with survival though. the profit league last year was... Man U £91.3m Arsenal £58.8m Livepool 24.9m Spurs £18.4m Birmingham £13.7m Everton £6.3m Wolves -£1.6m Fulham -£2.1m Mackems -£2.4m Bolton -£5.3m Blackburn -£6.8m Stoke -£7.8m Burnley -£8.9m Hull -£9.2m Chelsea -£11.4m Villa -£13.1m Wigan -£17m Portsmouth -£17m West Ham -£32.8m Mn City -£34.2m http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...we-1912244.html Given the top 4 have a model based on champions league qualification, the next best model Ashley could look at to try and turn a profit is Birmingham. I doubt their wage bill is significantly greater than ours. If he was able to match their profits year in year out...he might have recouped his loan to the club and be able to start turning a profit in ten years time. There's only 3 clubs there that actually turn a profit outside of the champions league. The cash cow theory is full of holes. Ineptitude is far more plausible. Chelsea recently announced losses of over 30M for last financial year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3604 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Hmm, just looked into it, didn't realise we were on nearly £40mil for TV money alone! So chances are we made a loss last year, but if he can get us finishing 17th each season surely he will make a hefty profit with the wage bill at its current level? Which is what I said about him having learned nothing and jeopardising us again. I Don't see a "hefty" profit even with survival though. the profit league last year was... Man U £91.3m Arsenal £58.8m Livepool 24.9m Spurs £18.4m Birmingham £13.7m Everton £6.3m Wolves -£1.6m Fulham -£2.1m Mackems -£2.4m Bolton -£5.3m Blackburn -£6.8m Stoke -£7.8m Burnley -£8.9m Hull -£9.2m Chelsea -£11.4m Villa -£13.1m Wigan -£17m Portsmouth -£17m West Ham -£32.8m Mn City -£34.2m http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...we-1912244.html Given the top 4 have a model based on champions league qualification, the next best model Ashley could look at to try and turn a profit is Birmingham. I doubt their wage bill is significantly greater than ours. If he was able to match their profits year in year out...he might have recouped his loan to the club and be able to start turning a profit in ten years time. There's only 3 clubs there that actually turn a profit outside of the champions league. The cash cow theory is full of holes. Ineptitude is far more plausible. Our turnover is double that of Birmingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Hmm, just looked into it, didn't realise we were on nearly £40mil for TV money alone! So chances are we made a loss last year, but if he can get us finishing 17th each season surely he will make a hefty profit with the wage bill at its current level? Which is what I said about him having learned nothing and jeopardising us again. I Don't see a "hefty" profit even with survival though. the profit league last year was... Man U £91.3m Arsenal £58.8m Livepool 24.9m Spurs £18.4m Birmingham £13.7m Everton £6.3m Wolves -£1.6m Fulham -£2.1m Mackems -£2.4m Bolton -£5.3m Blackburn -£6.8m Stoke -£7.8m Burnley -£8.9m Hull -£9.2m Chelsea -£11.4m Villa -£13.1m Wigan -£17m Portsmouth -£17m West Ham -£32.8m Mn City -£34.2m http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...we-1912244.html Given the top 4 have a model based on champions league qualification, the next best model Ashley could look at to try and turn a profit is Birmingham. I doubt their wage bill is significantly greater than ours. If he was able to match their profits year in year out...he might have recouped his loan to the club and be able to start turning a profit in ten years time. There's only 3 clubs there that actually turn a profit outside of the champions league. The cash cow theory is full of holes. Ineptitude is far more plausible. Our turnover was double that of Birmingham FYP That was at it's height. Last year our turnover would have been about the same as Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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