Isegrim 11896 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Another mass killing not prevented by the right to own and use guns... ... which rarely happens anyway contrary to the argument of the weapon industry and its cronies. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/19/guns-in-america-for-every-criminal-killed-in-self-defense-34-innocent-people-die/?utm_term=.6b9a9df3f849 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 They don't need to ban guns, they need to stop being cowards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63312 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Who said that? Mark Wahlberg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22516 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Gemmill said: Lads man. What are a few dead kids when you can retire on that sweet sweet gun lobby money. Think about that before you judge these poor, prayerful politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I think Rubio has accepted $3.3m from them to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63312 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Aye I've seen a graphic that has Trump at $30m today. Presumably they gave his campaign a shit load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28572 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 1178 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The Daily News has rag tendencies, but they are consistently and vehemently anti-gun. This is one of my favorite front pages ever: As true today as it was two years ago - more true, even. I'm a teacher and every so often I wonder if today's the day, and if it was, what would I do. Most likely get filled with bullets off a military-grade assault rifle wielded by an 18-year-old. It's a sobering thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Your country is doomed to repeat the same mistake time after time. Put restrictions in place and it might take 50 years before you’re a bit more safe. But I can’t see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22516 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/02/15/nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-democracy-commentary.html?__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Norman 4 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 From Guardian coverage: John Crescitelli, a family doctor and 15 year-old Sarah Crescitelli’s father, was shaking as he was reunited with his daughter. He feared she had been killed. “These school shootings have to stop. This is crazy. My son’s football coach died. It’s horrible,” he said. “It’s like Columbine across the street from my house.” Asked by the Guardian if the tragedy should lead to stricter gun control for people with mental health issues, he replied: “I don’t want to get into a gun debate. I really don’t. What are you going to do? Confiscate everybody’s guns? We have millions and millions of weapons … I’m a gun owner. I don’t want the government taking my gun.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63312 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Stupid cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42163 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Didn't realise Toonpack was a doctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42163 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, Gemmill said: Stupid cunt. They'll be arming teachers in some schools next, man. Because that'll end well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 They had an armed security guard at the school in Florida and that didn't work so aye, arming the teachers is the logical step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 9342 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) Banning automatic guns would be a good start but realistically it’s going to have a negligible effect on gun murders for the best part of a century. iirc there are more guns than people in America now. That’s a tough genie to get back in the bottle. How do you reimburse all the idiots that have spent tens of thousands on automatic weapons? That’s gonna cost billions. How do you stop the hundreds of millions of weapons in private ownership falling into the hands of idiots? And that’s before you get into the NRA and the politics of the gun business in the states. What’s going to happen to the companies and their workers who build guns, ammunition etc. Obama can wax lyrical all he wants but he did fuck all about the problem when he was in the power. Id be interested to see what people’s ideas are to solve this problem. It’s not as easy as “just ban guns” Edited February 19, 2018 by Kid Dynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 7485 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Ban future sales, make private selling illegal, begin reclaiming weapons over time. It'll take a while but so what? Did Obama not lack control of the senate or something (american political bodies) that would've prevented this going forward under his lead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Obama pushed for gun control and signed executive orders placing restrictions on sales. Trump case in and made it removed restrictions such as making it harder for those with mental illness to buy guns. The Dems haven’t had control of both houses since 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 It'll just go underground though - then you'll have organised crime in total control of gun ownership. Prohibition all over again surely? They might need a widespread cultural shift against guns first tbh... really not sure what the answer is. And I don't see that cultural shift coming at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Well sure it starts with restricting the sale of guns? The fact that the Florida shooting could legally buy guns but couldn’t legally buy a beer is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Aye stuff like that they can resolve without having to tackle the main issue, and it would make a significant difference. On the wider issue, I don't think it'll ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Although support for gun control is on the rise it has fallen quite a bit over the last thirty years. The problem is that those who are against it are really vocal about it and their votes depend on their candidates’ support for gun rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42163 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 At least Obama tried to do something about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 5305 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Was it Chris Rock who said they should make bullets cost 10000 dollars each? I know the diehard hunters would make their own but it might be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63312 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 34 minutes ago, NJS said: Was it Chris Rock who said they should make bullets cost 10000 dollars each? I know the diehard hunters would make their own but it might be a start. Aye. "I'd kill you...... If I could afford it!" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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