Rayvin
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1 minute ago, Howmanheyman said:
Who's Z again?
(and who makes this shit up?)
Gen Z is anyone from late 90s to around 2010, from memory - so we're just about to start seeing the Alphas hit adulthood in the coming few years.
Z followed Millennials.
And I have no idea man, I suspect the media just throw shit around until something sticks and we all run with it.
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17 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said:
"Say what, muthafucka?"
Generation Alpha is the latest one to be defined after Z
I feel bad for the ones who grow up as Gen Beta.
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3 minutes ago, Renton said:
You're talking like the markets are some abstract thing. They're not, Truss's budget completely fucked my mortgage and my finances, and there's millions of people like me. And then there's the national debt to think about, and the interest to be paid which will push up the deficit and fuck public services even more.
Labour were actually pretty clear on what they would do, or at least what they wouldn't do, raise working taxes. They've kept their pledges and are still vilified for it.
I agree I'd like Brexit reversed. But this will have to be a gradual incremental move. And it will have to be done with agreement with all thee 27 EU countries and even some regions. Its not going to be a short process, and considering many EU countries are also struggling economically, it's also not a panacea.
It does have to be a gradual, incremental move. They could start by talking about it - might bring a few more people on board with these cuts, at least from the left.
See the thing is, I look at this and think "well, if the situation in the country was really that dire, they'd be telling the truth about it. They'd be acknowledging why we are where we are, and how urgently we need to rectify that". They're not doing that though, so I assume none of them are serious people and this is all just posturing to show they're tough on the economy.
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6 minutes ago, Renton said:
Just watching C4 news. Apparently the markets flipped when they thought she might have resigned, but calmed when Labour confirmed she was safe.
This is the issue we have now, if Labour don't do what the markets want, the bond yield rises and we're all fucked. Starmer and Reeves are constantly between a rock and a hard place here. Its easy to snipe from the sidelines but I'm just not hearing from the Tories, Reform, Liberal Dems, Greens or Labour Left what the answer is. "Wealth tax" seems to be the cry but how would this work in practice, would it spook the markets, or would it have other unforeseen consequences? None of this is easy.
I mean this in the nicest possible way - I don't give a flying fuck about the markets.
If they can survive chaos like Trump, they can survive pretty much anything.
Beyond that, whether the others have a plan or not, they're under no obligation to give any pointers to the government. Labour took the same stance when the Tories were in charge, they said absolutely fuck all about what they would do.
But I do have something for you anyway, as it goes - rejoin the EU. That's what I'd be yelling for. £36bn a year out of the public purse...
That wealth tax is coming by the way, Gen Z and Alpha are going to eat people alive at this rate. Unsure how the markets would react to several generations worth of desperate, frustrated rage - but we'll see.
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1 hour ago, Gemmill said:
Starmer made that comeback but also failed to guarantee that Reeves would remain in post. So Badenoch stands up and, with a visibly upset Reeves sat next to Starmer, says "what a shame for the Chancellor he couldn't give her that guarantee".
Oof.
Of course they've come out and said she's safe etc afterwards, but Labour are in total disarray at the minute.
It very much sounds like she might done. Politically, I won't miss her - but saying that I assume everything she's done has been with his full blessing, so I'm not sure what the issue would be here.
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35 minutes ago, Gemmill said:
It's actually taught me that I drink far too much during the day. It's cos I'm in the house by myself bored working all day, so I'll neck bottles of water and tea and coffee just as something to do to get me away from my desk. I can easily have downed 2 litres by 9am and probably 4 to 5 litres a day most days.
I am the literal opposite of you. I have to set alarms to remind me to take in water because if I don't I'll go through the entire day on one or two cups of tea.
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Apologies if people aren't ready to move on with this yet but I find this too interesting not to raise it and I'll forget if I wait a day.
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/52431-how-would-britain-vote-a-year-since-the-2024-election
This poll is really interesting to me - Labour is down 7% to Reform, but down 18% to LD and Greens combined. So again, why are we pandering to that 7%... Reform are clearly eating the Tories, not Labour.
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Can absolutely see why it scarred Israeli people. Can absolutely see how it stoked hatred. It's a perpetual cycle of violence in which both sides have hurt each other enough now that they feel that anything they do in reply is justified.
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Just now, ewerk said:
Unless the name on your passport is Rayvin then I think you’re safe enough.
I don’t have a single social media account under my own name so good luck with them banning me.
I suspect it wouldn't be too difficult to trace it all. They've got an AI doing it apparently - but yeah maybe you're right. Not sure it's worth the risk though. I keep thinking that some of my clients are US based and if I end up in a position where im banned from going out to them its a really awkward conversation to have.
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I still think we should be careful talking about this at all atm. The US is genuinely banning people from entry for the smallest things now and a lot of those things involve criticising Israel. Who knows when that might affect you over the next 4 years.
And thats before we get into the nonsense of the UK government trumping up terrorism charges for acts of sabotage. Supporting that group will soon be condoning terrorism, which will also be illegal.
I dont think we are free to talk about this to the degree we should be.
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3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:
I actually think the amount Starmer can influence Netanyahu is negligible but I take your point. The issue is Trump. Netanyahu won’t stop until Trump tells him to but sadly he has his biggest cheerleader in the White House. Biden was fucking senile in his last year as president and should never have ran again but I’m convinced we wouldn’t be where we are today with a democratic president in the White House. Bibi upped the stakes before the election and doubled down after Trump started his second term knowing he’d have his support.Agreed about Starmer tbf but we could stop supplying arms. Instead we're branding the people trying to prevent planes going over there as terrorists.
I don't think any sort of genuine de-escalation is even possible anymore tbh, the hatred will span generations. Maybe if Netanyahu answered for war crimes but I don't think he values the peace and safety of his own people enough for that.
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1 minute ago, ewerk said:
Criticism of Israel does not equal antisemitism.
Chanting death of the IDF isn’t antisemitism.
Chanting death to the IDF is however most likely a crime in this country but not antisemitic. It is probably wrong and I did think of the likes of Gloom’s conscripted family when I read about it. Bibi seems to liken any criticism of the Israeli government’s actions to antisemitism and it couldn’t be further from the truth but it has worked for him.
The likes of Bob Vylan and Kneecap know they aren’t making a difference by making a stand but it keeps it in the public eye when the UK government appears to be doing fuck all about it.
It will be whatever the government decides it is in the end. I'm wondering if they might be about to use this to make a show of going after left leaning people and putting them in prison same as they did for the hotel burning fiasco.
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1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:
Yeah, I’ve seen them, which is why my position changed from where I was after October 7, where I could see why Israel needed to retaliate, to where it is today after the assault on Gaza intensified. I’m not here to defend what Israel is doing.I’ve also seen similar harrowing videos coming out of Ukraine, the forgotten genocide.
Maybe it’s my Jewish paranoia but it appears to me that some genocides matter more than others
I get that for sure. I would throw into the mix as well though that the UK supports Israel whereas it doesn't support Russia - so there's a domestic angle to it there. There's not much more anyone can do than what we're doing with the Ukraine, the government supports them and is assisting them - Russia doesn't give a shit if we protest them but Israel does actually on some level respond to international pressure. So arguably people's energy is actually better spent on Gaza than it is on Ukraine.
I think if people's feeds were full of dead and dying Ukrainian children it'd be different though, tbh.
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I think a lot of what people struggle with is that they're seeing images of children being shot dead coming from Israel's situation. I've not seen anything like that from Ukraine for a long time. I know a girl living out in Ukraine atm and life sounds horrendous but at the same time they're just about hanging on. I send her some money each month to try to help, my own personal attempt to alleviate just a little of the agony. I don't do that with anyone in Gaza as I don't know anyone personally, so I would contend that I'm more invested in that conflict than this one.
For what it's worth, I see Russia as a greater issue than Israel. But Gloom, for real man, idk if you see the videos that do the rounds coming out of Gaza... they're all over reddit, and they are beyond harrowing, sometimes involving IDF servicemen calling for all Palestinians to be murdered like animals etc. Maybe the Palestinians are just better at social media, maybe the videos are faked, dunno. But that's the context for a lot of this.
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Why on earth did a Japanese flag cause offence...
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3 hours ago, Dazzler said:
I’m willing to bet that there’s a massive dollop of homophobia involved in their pro-trans stuff.
It’ll be seen as better to be born in the wrong body than to insert yourself into someone with a similar body.
Yep that does seem to be a part of it. But still though, it's an Islamic theocracy that supports trans existence on some level
It's just wild to me. Maybe we really should regime change them tbh, their government is an anachronism relative to their people.
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2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:
caling for the death of a certain group of people or person is a hate crime. It isn’t up for debate. Those are the laws of the landI thought it had to be based on non-changeable characteristics, identity stuff - that's what google says anyway. My bad though, it's a hate crime then. I suppose I've probably committed a few hate crimes in my time with comments about the Tories... maybe I really should go back and purge my comment history tbh..
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As compassionate people we shouldn't be calling for the death of anyone. If this crime meets a threshold from existing legislation to be treated as a hate crime, then it simply does.
We shouldn't express any particularly strong views on it anyway, it's a sensitive issue and genuinely if this does become a hate crime then some of the things being said in here about the situation could be viewed that way too.
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Just now, Dr Gloom said:
it can be applied to any minority, not just jews. i wouldn't tell a person of colour, or a woman, or any minority what they should or shouldn't find offensive to them because i have zero idea about their lived experience
I think we can work to the definitions provided by the IHRA at minimum. If we can't, there's no line anywhere. There needs to be a shared and agreed basis for what things mean otherwise society just makes no sense. Not to me at least.
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1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:
It's not really for you to judge what is antisemitic and what isn't. plenty of jews found it offensive and that's all that matters on that score.
I'm seeing this get said a lot these days tbh but if you think it through it's a pretty dangerous sentiment. That could apply to literally anything. I mean for one thing, supporting Israel's right to defend itself could then become Islamophobic - not up to us to define whether it is or not, it's up to Muslims. The whole debate would just become ridiculous.
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I was reading Labour's guidelines on antisemitism which are informed by the IHRA. I don't understand how we've gotten to where we are:
13. In contrast, discussion of the circumstances of the foundation of the Israeli State (for example, in the context of its impact on the Palestinian people) forms a legitimate part of modern political discourse. So does discussion of – including critical comment on – differential impact of Israeli laws or policies on different people within its population or that of neighbouring territories. It is not racist to assess the conduct of Israel – or indeed of any other particular State or government – against the requirements of international law or the standards of behaviour expected of democratic States (bearing in mind that these requirements and standards may themselves be contentious).
14. However, care must be taken when dealing with these topics. The fact of Israel’s description as a Jewish State does not make it permissible to hold Jewish people or institutions in general responsible for alleged misconduct on the part of that State (see paragraph 9.g.). In addition, it is wrong to apply double standards by requiring more vociferous condemnation of such actions from Jewish people or organisations than from others – a form of racist treatment also all too common in other contexts, eg. holding Muslims or Muslim organisations to a higher standard than others as regards condemnation of illegal or violent acts by self-defining “Islamic” organisations or States (such as Saudi Arabia or Pakistan). It is also wrong to accuse Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
15. The term “Zionism” is intimately bound up in the history of Israel’s foundation as a State and in its role in international relations more generally. It is inevitable that the expressions “Zionism” and “Zionist” will feature in political discourse about these topics. The meaning of these expressions is itself debated. It is not antisemitism to refer to “Zionism” and “Zionists” as part of a considered discussion about the Israeli State. However, as the Chakrabarti Report advised, it is not permissible to use “Zionist” (and still less any pejorative abbreviation such as ‘zio’ which the Chakrabarti report said should have no place in Labour Party discourse) as a code word for “Jew”. Chakrabarti recommended that Labour Party members should only use “the term `Zionist’ advisedly, carefully and never euphemistically or as part of personal abuse”. Such language may otherwise provide evidence of antisemitic intent.
I would fundamentally agree on every word of that. What I'm struggling with is why the IDF are some sort of protected characteristic. It's in poor taste to chant for their death absolutely, I don't condone it and I would never say it (same as for Russian troops) - but at the same time it doesn't feel like antisemitism per these definitions.
In the end though I think we just need to make peace with this - the government has chosen a side and it's Israel/Trump. I'm increasingly concerned about being watchlisted over expressing views about this in case I need to travel to the US tbh, or indeed being charged with terrorism by the UK.-
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It fucking would have as well. Maybe not directly into the comments but on some level they'd have been seething.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70rreer004o - Parental leave and pay for new parents to be reviewed
Gammons in the comments complaining about why they have to pay for other people to have kids. I guarantee that these idiots haven't connected this to immigration and will happily crow about that at the same time. Either we have more kids, or we have high immigration - which is it, you clueless fucking muppets. You can't whine about both things at the same time.
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29 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:
Are you 100% sure about this, my reading suggests trans individuals in Iran have a horrific experience.
I'm sure they do on many levels but the actual legal situation I googled repeatedly because I didn't believe it either.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran
Not perfect by any stretch but also not what I expected personally.
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https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/money/pensions-and-retirement/scrap-triple-lock-pension-avoid-retirement-age-3782377?srsltid=AfmBOorlAA9z_DajefmuN3ocDjT-wcxP30L8_30fCrIphguGuf_RN2An
IFS has come out and said we need to scrap the triple lock or raise retirement to 74. This is due to the lock costing an extra £40bn by 2050, due to an ageing population. They won't get rid of it now though because #boomerlivesmatter
As I said before, Gen Z and Alpha will literally be tearing the country apart when they realise the degree to which they've been fucked over. Tbh I might be too at that point. As it's happening, I will ponder whimsically on how the markets might be reacting.