Rayvin
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36 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said:Why we may never know the full story of Covid-19
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I thought you knew it was a Chinese government conspiracy? That's some climb down mate...
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It's done now either way though. May as well just see where it takes us.
Quite looking forward to the independent Scotland moment tbf. 58% of Scots now want out according to a poll yesterday.
At some point it will hit a number that will be hard for Westminster to ignore. I personally think we're about 2% off that.
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16 hours ago, Renton said:A Canada deal is shit for us man. Why are you hoping for something that will do fuck all for us but that Johnson can sell as a win? I think the best thing for this country is to suffer a disaster unfortunately.
I don't I guess, maybe you're right.
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31 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:Depending on your definition of Britain that might not be very long.
Here's hoping!
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I wonder, probably more with desperate hope than anything else, if the EU have privately acknowledged that they would be willing to compromise on something small, and that Johnson has asked them to tee him up for a bit of grandstanding in order to sell it on the home front.
Barnier travels to London tomorrow, agrees something minor, Boris gets to claim that the EU came grovelling back to the door and he had them over a barrel as the great mastermind he is, no one cares about the details, the EU go home happy to have gotten everything they wanted minus one very small thing, and the UK believes the whole thing was an example of British strength.
That's the only play I can imagine.
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Just now, Renton said:Surely he was always ahead? He's our Trump.
Cameron starting all of this in the first place was one of the greatest acts of incompetence that I've ever witnessed, politically speaking. Including everything Chris Grayling has ever done.
Boris has only been PM for about 18 months, he hadn't racked up a fiasco quite on that level (IMO) in that time - even with COVID which, again, is at least partially at Cameron's door for underfunding the NHS for a decade anyway. He now has. I cannot imagine ever again in British history will an elected official do as much damage to the country as Johnson has now managed, even allowing for Cameron having ultimately started it.
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Is Boris Johnson now, finally, surpassing Cameron as the shittest Prime Minister in history?
He's an irresponsible trainwreck of a human being before we ever get close to his abilities as a minister.
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Incredible.
Predictable, inevitable, but still incredible.
Johnson is a cunt.
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25 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:Can you tell me what the current thinking among SNP types for what might happen on a future Anglo/Scottish border where one state may well be an EU member and the other definitely won't be? sorry to spring this on you mate but I often ask cyber Nats on Twitter and usually get blocked immediately
It's the same as Brexit...no fucker mentioned the Irish border in 2015/16...in fact the more one eyed Indy supporters sound exactly the same as Brexiteers, it's just a different cause..
Far better off with KCG answering that one, I'm a recent convert. If I had to say, I'd imagine that a hard border would be worth the price to many Scots. I'd be ok with it personally.
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Did he actually say that?
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Just now, ewerk said:A single tear rolls down Rayvin's cheek.
I agree with everything he's saying here and think it's smart that he is writing it in the Telegraph
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5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:i think you're still still in the depression stage of grief. don't worry: acceptance is coming
I think I'm just done with democracy as you said further up and as I have said myself repeatedly. Gonna join KCG with the SNP vote though, an independent Scotland can't come soon enough.
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2 minutes ago, ewerk said:Steve Wraith is booked to hold a funeral procession for Rayvin's Labour vote at noon if anyone is interested.
Resigned membership as well but didn't want to mention it earlier because you'll doubtless be on at me again for flip flopping
and tbf I did say I was going to quit after voting Starmer but i never got around to it.
This is now twice I've resigned from the party due to their EU stance though. Once under Corbyn and now under Starmer.
Fairly consistent on this point
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4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:i don't blame CT for brexit anymore than i would blame you for choosing not to vote labour. i felt the same way after iraq so i lent my vote to the greens. depends on what kind of seat you're in, i suppose. mine has always been safe labour. i wouldn't ever protest vote if i lived in a marginal.
but while i understand your disillusion over brexit - i share it - i also think we have to accept it is happening. i'm at that stage of grief now: leaving the EU has a democratic mandate. the last GE was essentially a second referendum. it's shit, but no political party is going to win power on a rejoin platform any time soon.
Don't really disagree with any of that, but in the end this is a deeply held issue for me and one that I can't find it in myself to budge from. I mean it does affect me quite directly which is perhaps partially why.
Either way though, I can't follow the party into this particular direction. And from the party's point of view, they have weighed my loss against the gains of the redwallers. They want them, not me. There's not all that much more to it.
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1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:in case the sarcasm was lost again, i was poking fun. i don't blame you for anything
I'm struggling to see it in the initial post, especially since the two statements it's couched between are both quite possibly accurate. Yes Starmer may set the foundations for a return, and yes I have given up on democracy.
It's worth noting though that Starmer appears to me to be pragmatic above everything else. He isn't going to push us back towards the EU on principle, only if there are votes in it. Therefore it makes sense for me to hold my vote ransom if i ever want to see this happen.
Not that I actually matter at all, but you get the idea.
I stuck with him through a number of abstentions that made my stomach turn based on taking a pragmatic view myself, but if they stop being a pro-EU party then that really is the end of it for me.
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14 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:probably not, but then no party capable of winning power would. so if those are preconditions for your vote, it looks like you've given up on democracy - well done, we can blame your for more tory rule just as we can blame brexit on CT.
what starmer might do, as a remainer, is lay the foundations for a possible future return
I mean this in the nicest possible way, but i don't give a fuck who you blame - the idea that you think I can be shamed into voting labour based on this feeble logic is kind of hilarious.
Blame me if it helps you sleep at night though.
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41 minutes ago, Renton said:Would you settle for a Norway type deal? I would, tbh rejoining fully would be a disaster for at least 20 years. Half this country are thick as whale spunk brexiteers. They'd continue to be represented in the EU parliament because of PR and continue to disgrace us. Why would the EU even want us?
Norway however is perfect. All the benefits and no say. No Farage to embarrass us in Brussels. Also we could keep our precious fish. Its definitely what I would aim for if I was Starmer.
I would tbf.
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12 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:exactly. win power first - and to do so make some compromises along the way - then reveal your true colours with policies that help deliver social justice.
So you think that Labour will win power and then take us back into the EU?
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3 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:Dumfries is good and a lovely area. I have been here for 17 years now and it's great.
It genuinely is - having been in a pretty difficult place for the past couple of years, I can say that being up here has helped me immeasurably. I'll be reluctant to go back, if the time ever comes.
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Just now, Dr Gloom said:you have to vote for the least-worst option. i held my nose and voted for corbyn last time - i also like my local labour MP.
Yeah I did it with Miliband, I remember what you're "meant" to do. But to some extent the party still has to represent you.
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1 minute ago, Gemmill said:Remain is over. I mean wtf sort of policy stance in 2024 is "let's talk about the argument that we lost 9 years ago".
So my voting position becomes 100% "I hate the Tories". Because atm at least, Labour don't appear to stand for anything whatsoever. Again, pragmatism I'm sure, but apart from deciding they support Brexit, they've abstained on pretty much everything else. I get it, they're working out how to position themselves - but it's clear that this position is going to be over to the red wall voters. And great, I hope that works out for them, but my vote is not guaranteed, I've compromised more than I ever wanted to and at some point it has to stop.
I mean it makes no difference anyway, I'm "radically left wing" so I'm not representative, Labour are ahead of the Tories in the polls by being a vague, bland colour of politics, and if they're going to "win" they'll do so with or without me. But we have now reached a point where me voting for them is actively voting against my own interests and making my life more difficult, so I think that's the point where I give Starmer the finger and we part ways.
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Just now, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:Whereabouts?
Between Dumfries and Glasgow, one of the little villages down there. Slightly nearer to Dumfries tbf.
I'll be moving soon but still in the area. I'm here in part because my Mum needs some support atm (as did I when I went, I suppose), and in part because coronavirus has sort of stopped me going back for what was supposed to just be a few months
Ultimately I'm just rudderless right now but I do prefer living up here to being in England, I can say that very readily.
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Just now, Renton said:I thinknsaying they are pro Brexit is a stretch personally, maybe its just recognition it has already happened and cannot easily be reversed. I'm fully with you. I am massively pro-European and would love us to be fully in, adopt the Euro, be part of a United Countries of Europe. But I recognise its a minority view which is unachievable. You always have to compromise in politics, nobody fully represents you.
I've compromised enough. I've compromised all the way from basically supporting the vast majority of the Corbyn program to whatever watered down versions Starmer is going to put out, but I'm not stepping over the line on Brexit.
“I wish we weren’t in the situation we are in now. But I think that trying to reopen those debates and those old wounds, I don’t think it will help the country move on and I don’t think it will help the Labour Party move on.
“I don’t see that we’re going to be in a position that in the next election we’re going to be campaigning to go back into the EU… I think we need to accept the result of the referendum and the last election and move on.
This is a pragmatic and sensible position for Labour to take but it's very clear as well. They're pandering to the fuckheads who voted for this. They are therefore taking my vote for granted - I've just had enough of it, I really have. I'm not voting for any party that isn't full on Remain, it is now my defining political position because it's about the only one I have left.
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Just now, Dr Gloom said:what is it the point in being principled in opposition? ideological purity doesn't win elections
What is the point in voting for something you don't believe in? This isn't rhetorical, I'm genuinely wanting an answer to this.
What are you playing
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RL is a better football sim than FIFA IMO.
Takes about 100 hours to master the basics though...