Report The new manager thread in Newcastle Forum Posted Sunday at 13:05 3 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: So City and Liverpool don't challenge? They just get it Liverpool and City challenge each year, and sometimes they win it. It would be quite possible for them to challenge each year without winning it though - see us in the 90s as a reference. All I'm saying is that there is a clearly defined semantic difference between saying we're challenging for honours and that we intend to win them. Maybe that difference is too much for this guy. I would imagine West Ham see their goal as challenging for the title btw. Doesn't mean they're ever going to win it.