wolfy

What direct evidence is there? You keep telling me there is, so what is it?

My negative wave spectrum does cover it. Once they converge the black overcomes the light, it gets absorbed. It's one circle of one spectrum cancelling out another circle of light by absorbing into it. Nobody will perceive the black spot because it reflects of nothing. It cannot reflect it will only absorb all colours it moves into. Your globe is 24,900 miles in circumference, so 4 people stood equally apart on half of that are not going to see the same shape of moon if you think about it. Your cement like moon is not going to light up like a beacon in the sky due to any light placed upon it, unless it was a luminous moon. Is it a luminous moon? because the supposed moon rock brought back doesn't light up like a beacon. It makes no sense at all for the moon to be lit up like it is in how we are told on a rotating globe of Earth.

Fair enough, we can just let that one float by. No evidence against what I'm saying and no direct evidence to prove a rotating globe. I think that's a fair assumption.

No. But I get what you are saying, so do you mind answering my question.

So half of the disc can see the moon exactly the same. Is this what you are saying? If it is, what makes you think that? Are you going by half of a globe? If so, then tell me where half of that globe at 4 positions evenly spread will see the moon as you say?

The more players of his quality coming in will show the quality we already have that we are heading in the right direction, albeit a lot slower than we would have wanted. Players like him attract other players, just like Cabaye did. Of course we will lose the odd player but who doesn't? I mean very few clubs keep everyone happy, except those in champions league contention. I have a great feeling about this summer. I think there's another 3 or 4 additions to come.

Can you elaborate on the 4 people seeing exactly the same shape on the disc, please?

Light is wavelength of primary colours, right? There are two sets of primary colours. Your first set (red/green/blue) when converged through the crystal prism will produce a white light or the sun from your view high in the sky. As those converged lights move away from you they show you less covergence of colour wavelengths, so you see a yellow sun or a red/yellow type and so on. The negative spectrum of colours like cyan/magenta/yellow. When they all coverge, they make black, or for more clarity, they cancel out all the colours like they do with the moon and an eclipse. You can call this a black spot or a black sun for instance. It's the same size because it's the same source. There's a hell of a lot more to it but hopefully you'll get the gist of it.

They won't to anyone who doesn't understand them, I'm well aware of that.

You try them also. It might open your eyes.

Negative colour spectrum dissolving the light from your vision.

I can't prove it to anyone. It's up to each individual to look at it all and decide what they think or if they have alternatives. It's a thought process not a full on provable scientific process that is up for peer review from mainstrean science. The globe model is glued on tight, it's going no-where. I know this, you know this and many other people know this. Anything I say will be ridiculed. Even a geocentric global Earth is ridiculed. Just use this as a lesson in thought, nothing more. I'm not here to argue and get bitter or to tell anyone they must listen to me. Just use your own minds. Don't even think about my dome or whatever. Just use it as one thought to question what we have been told to believe. If you stick rigidly to what was told to you after weighing up the odds, then go with that. I have absolutely no qualms about people believing we live on a rotating oblate spheroid with gravity pulling us to the centre somehow and the airless moon with one sixth gravity, as we are told, that manages to also pull at the huge oceans despite us being told we are four times bigger than it and it being 240,000 miles away. It just so happens that the moon to our view is exactly the same size as the sun. How convenient. Obviously it has to pan out this way, this is why they tell us the sun is 93 million miles away and is over 1000,000 km in diameter. They have to do this or people would ask how the moon can eclipse the sun. It just so happens that it's a virtual perfect match in size. Very few question why we see the same face of the moon. How do they account for this? Easy, they have the moon rotating at 10 mph....ten mph, the opposite way to how Earth supposedly spins. It's all shoehorned to fit and is swallowed up without question. Gravity makes things fall and stops us being shoved into space - we are told, because we are constantly being pulled into the centre of the spinning ball. Things can orbit the spinning ball because they fall around it because of gravity and centripetal force, which they tell us is like a swing ball, where you hit it and it whizzes around the pole but never flying off into space, because this imaginary string stops it. Gravity keeps pulling at the orbiting craft but it's speed around the Earth stops it falling, as they tell us. What is gravity? They don't know what gravity is. It's just an unknown force. Geniuses aren't they. Why question the person in a white overall with letters after his/her name? Why question the geniuses that have been pushed into our faces with this space stuff? If Hawking tells you the universe started from nothing, just accept it. If Einstein tells you that E=MC2, then just accept it, as he knows what he's talking about. If they tell you that warped space time is a springy net with Earth in , then accept it as it all makes sense, right? Don't try and make sense of it all by saying things like, air pressure behaves like their gravity because you will be called a nutter. Hahahaha.

What curved Earth shadow is this? What about different time zones? What do you mean by rising higher. Explain all these things one by one and I'll see if I can answer them.

The ice dome is my idea in how I describe how it works. I don't see anyone with an exact one like it. I see someone who has a glass dome but i think that's concave. Mine is convex and made of frozen hydrogen/helium type elements.

Everyone who has flown in a plane or helicopter is wrong about what? Do you think they use a globe for navigation or a flat map or codes on a screen? What are they wrong about. They follow a flight pattern to a destination given. I'm not saying I'm right about it all. I know you can't see a curved horizon. It's looks level to your eye. If you want to believe it doesn't then that's ok with me. I'll just leave that up to anyone who wants to go and look. Go to the beach or in a plane and look out and see for yourselves people.

It's nothing to do with a huge plot being more logical than one man being wrong. I'm not the only person questioning things in this world. If those in power want us to believe something, they can make us believe it, or at least they know the odds of it getting believed are firmly stacked in their favour, because people are gullible. We are all gullible no matter how much we want to big ourselves up and think we aren't. Our lives are dictated by what we are told and it's as simple as that. Anything can be made up, even over centuries and followed on and it doesn't take too many people to keep up a ruse if it benefits them. All it takes is for people to follow it in a belief that what they're following is true, which people do.

I deny it because it's not true. It's a big con job. Oh and you can't see the curvature of the Earth. If you believe you can then fair enough. I know you can't. Certain cameras can make things look both convex and concave as far as horizon goes. Your horizon is straight and level and at eye level no matter where you view it from. The speed of an object falling to Earth is related to it's mass and density. It is not being pulled by some fictional force called gravity.

Prove it to who? I'm not under any impression that I'll be taken serious by the majority. Most people don't even take any notice of what we live on. they simply see a ball like marble on TV documentaries or at the start of films, in papers, etc and assume it's a ball. Ask most people much more than that and you won't get many knowing even a small portion of any of it, because in their mind it's just a ball that we live on floating in space. Mainstream science has it just about covered, so someone coming along disputing it will be laughed at. I'm simply putting my thoughts in a chat room and asking people if they have another take on things, that's all. I'm newcastle fan on a Newcastle forum and this is the chat section to air our thoughts isn't it?

No answer to that then?

If the evidence of a rotating globe is obvious, then show me how it's obvious and I might not be able to refute it. I haven't seen any evidence that nails it for me, maybe you can do it.

They don't fall to the ground at the same rate. This is a big con job that you should know is a con. Yeah, dropping them from a roof top won't show much difference but a decent height certainly will. The denser the object the more easily it displaces the air under it.

No I'm not, fish. I'm not asking anyone to take anything on faith or anything else. I'm asking people to simply think. I don't expect anyone to say, " ahhh wolfy, it all makes sense, you're right." It takes a lot more than that. It requires thinking alternatively to what's been thrown to us all, all our lives. People only have to question one thing to start with. Ask themselves if some of this stuff makes sense. To me it looks like a lot of very clever nonsense. Whether people deny this or whatever, the truth is, just about everyone has took this space stuff on face value. It's simply just accepted because the stories are well written and filled with complicated equations and formulas that people either get amazed by or simply say, "nah, I'll just accept this as legit, it's too brain numbing." It's meant to be so it's not questioned. Amaze the public with the science and baffle them with the bull shit.

Give me some physical examples of a global rotating Earth and space. Tell me what the Higgs boson is. What is warped space time? How about black holes. Special relativity. Explain what gravity is.....nobody has given me an explanation yet. Stories with movie like scripts, that's all I see, seriously.

I'm not using religion as an argument against you. I'm using it as an explanation how the masses can be made to believe in something based on no evidence at all, except stories. That's not to say they are wrong or silly for doing that. It just means that all humans can and do accept things by those they feel they trust. There's more than me that questions science, Fish and I'm not questioning ALL of science. Just the stuff that makes no logical sense and cannot be rationally explained without the use of magical made up names for forces and energies. I'm just chatting and putting my thoughts. Shall I just go with the flow even though I don't agree with it?

I'm not saying I'm right. I'm giving out my thoughts which appear to you as me saying I'm right. It just saves me from saying " it could be...it might be...maybe...possibly.2 I'm simply tellin g you my take on it all. I'm not asking you to follow it, I'm simply asking people to have a think on stuff. Basically question some of the stuff that makes no rational sense. If you don't want to do that then fine. Not all people want to just accept what's fed. Some have one question or two...or many. The problem is. When you question one thing, you have to think about otehr things, which leads to others. I'm of the mind to believe nothing and question everything, now. If it makes perfect sense then I'll accept it and not bother questioning it. If it doesn't, then I'll question it.