wolfy

Fine and correct.

Your theory is flawed.I'm not talking about TWO divers in water, I'm talking about ONE rocket or ONE person pushing against themselves, it's impossible.

I'm fine.

Find it yourself inspector.

It proves that you don't.

I've proved myself no such thing.What you meant to say was, you and a few others have somehow proved I'm a liar based on your own assumptions of nothing. There is a difference.

The balloon experiment which I've already explained in this thread. It's the only proof you need to show why rockets cannot work in a vacuum but it got dismissed by those who haven't tried it because they want to hang on to what they are told and that is, a rocket pushes against itself... You cannot push against yourself...go on try it. Stand still in the middle of the floor and push yourself over. You can't for exactly the same reason a rocket or anything else cannot push against itself, unless it is pushing against something. You can push yourself away from a wall because you are pushing against a solid object (yes I know it;s a "duh" statement but it's relevant when people can't grasp the lies they are told) The Newtons law people hang onto of equal and opposite reaction is fine on Earth, it's no good in a vacuum. To try and make this as simple as possible, imagine on Earth you tied a sheet of 8x4 ply board to your back and sprinted forwards...the air resistance would slow you down and create drag on you, making it hard to run against it. Now imagine doing the very same thing on Earth, if Earth was a vacuum. You would do the same run, yet you would run much easier and faster because there is NOTHING acting on the wide board to create any drag. If you were to drop the very same board flat to the ground on Earth, it would fall to the ground yet not slam into it because the air pressure created under the board will cushion it from heavy impact, I'm sure most people have seen this effect, whether it's a sheet of glass on a table or anything flat. It's because as we all know, compressing the air under it. Do the same thing in a vacuum and the board would simply smack into the floor because there is no air resistance under it to arrest it's fall. Now, instead of looking at some magical rocketry mathematics, just look at a rocket for what it is, which is simply the rocket over coming it's own weight by burning fuel, which on Earth, pushes against the atmosphere and expanding it , propelling it upwards. Just like a plastic bottle filled with compressed air and water. The compressed air is trapped inside but wants to escape, yet to escape, it has to expel the water which pushes against the air in the atmosphere...propelling the bottle upwards until the air and water are expelled. Do that in a vacuum and the vacuum swallows it immediately, creating no lift at all. Everyone has seen a fireman use a hose at some point. If the water pressure is built up in that hose, yet the lever stays shut...that fireman can stand with that hose in one hand because the pressure is contained inside it. If he opens the nozzle, he will be fighting to stop the water from pushing him backwards because the water pushing against the air is creating resistance against him. If he was to do this in a vacuum, the water would be expelled against nothing, meaning, it would not push him back because the vacuum would just swallow what he was expelling, meaning he could stand there all day. For anyone that's interested; try the balloon experiment I mentioned somewhere in this thread. If you are having trouble finding it, just ask RENTON to find it, as he seems to be able to tell anyone, which blogs and forums anyone has been on.

They're great with a dippy egg.

Of course none are my own theories...many thousands of people will have theorized well before I did and it's looking at different theories of things which can make up a person mind or at least make them look at another angle. I've done an experiment to show why a rocket cannot work in a vacuum, so I know in my mind that no rockets have went into space but even before they would get through our atmosphere, they would simply burn up anyway, so there's your satellites, ISS, lunar landers and every other piece of man made garbage rendered useless. I think you've already decided on the drugs, so my answer of no, would be pointless really, so go with your gut feeling.

Aye.

You are still failing to grasp my stance. The onus is not on me to prove anything. I'm happy in the knowledge that many things are not what I have been led to believe. Now I don;t need to go out and prove that to people...they can make up their own minds. I have no desire to walk about with a sandwich board proclaiming I know this is crap and that's crap. I will leave people to decide for themselves whether they feel it's worth thinking about and is it worth a deeper look. You see...I've been on the other side all my life...brainwashed into believing anything sold to me from the media, so I know how people think...we are all taught to think this way. Most people will never question very much when it comes to things like this because they see their phones/sat nav's/sky TV etc and assume it's satellites. I'm willing to bet that you could tell most sensible people that if they fill their car tyres full of helium, their car will go up steep hills much easier and they would actually tell you their car actually did go up the hill much easier......it's easy to brainwash anyone into believing anything no matter how outlandish it seems...it just needs enough people in official attire to sell it.

First of all, I don;t think I'm the only person who questions things...howay Fish man, where did you rustle that up from? You are correct Fish, I've been told about the ionosphere and I do believe it because it makes a shit load more sense than a big chunk of metal stuck in space bouncing signals about. Satellites are not up in space nor is any other man made object and you know my reason for this.... I probably do blindly still believe stuff and have done all my life and I'm now sifting through the shite that was stamped into my mind and sorting the wheat from the chaff and there is a lot of chaff as far as I'm concerned.

I think I'll wear that sexy little number I wore to the baco foil party.

In life Fish, there's such a thing (even in the modern technological age) as being able to think for one's self and using simple basic logic derived from stuff you have been told to accept. Sometimes by using this and being influenced by no direct in your face crowd of people, you can make up your own mind without falling at the peer pressure hurdle of just going with the flow because it's easier and less hassle. I'm one of these people that isn't influenced in my thinking by people trying to use ridicule to try and prove a point. I cannot prove the Earth doesn't spin as you know and you cannot prove that it does, as you well know. My logic tells me that it's still and everything goes around us. I think this because I do not feel any movement or anything at all to tell me otherwise...but I do see the moon and sun moving in the sky. I also don't believe in the light years stars we are told to believe as in seeing them as they were thousands of years ago and we only just see the light. Now I don't give a rats arse who mocks it because I know that those who mock it, cannot prove otherwise, yet they can sling a shit load of mathematics at me and drawings which could very well be absolute clap trap. Fish: If you are 100% happy about satellites working for you, then great. All I'm saying is, you are only going by what you have been taught.

I cannot prove satellites don't exist.I cannot prove that nuclear power doesn't fission like they tell us. I don't have to prove to you anything about this though because the onus isn't on me to prove anything. You can decide for yourselves on what you know or believe as I am doing on that I don't believe these things are what they say they are. You can sit there all day long and tell me that they do exist , yet I can ask you why you know and you will say, because only a dick would think they don't or because you are smart and I'm a tinfoil hat...you know, stuff like that. Now basically that's all I've mostly had slung at me, except a few that have told me they are experts in their field of work and yet haven't seen these things working directly, just in theory. So therefore, as much as you can go on about you know for a fact there's satellites and nuclear power works how we are told...then equally you would have to convince me it does and as to why I'm a stupid tin foil hat nut case. You certainly cannot use the answer of...."but most of the world knows it's real, it's just crazy bastards like you with silly conspiracy theories that doesn't" If you believe it's all 100% legitimate, then I have no issue with that as it's what you go with. I just don't share it that's all .

Without doubt you were the better side and on a better day you could have won the game easily. Yet as you know. COULD and SHOULD don;t always get you what you deserve and all teams suffer this, except maybe Man Utd haha. Your team looks very good and Steve Clarke has got you playing good football. We couldn't quite get to grips with your teams desire to not let ours have any time on the ball.

Can't you see where you are going off course here? Rikko has already admitted that he hasn't seen nuclear fissioning occuring, so what makes him an expert? He might be a good engineer, he might know the equations and theory on how nuclear power is supposed to work but that doesn't mean dense metals are fissioning miraculously for years on end. The Fish sits at his screen or whatever and tracks whatever vehicles he tracks.....he's never seen a satellite go into space or seen a satellite in space, other than what he believes are satellites which could be a number of things, including meteorites. Nobody is producing evidence to me , all they are doing is telling me that these things exist...

Going to the bar, buying a pint and having your change slammed onto the counter.

Seeing people sniff up, then gargle their throat, then spit it out against a wall.

Pardew got manager of the year last year didn't he? Why do fans think they know better than the manager, especially one that's done an excellent job with the team, plus buys. Pardew sees these players in training and along with the coaches, he oversees the tactics employed in training and also who is capable of filling positions. He's done a fantastic job with Perch and has brought on many players that many fans deemed below average. 9 games into a season with a massive head start in the Europa and it's time to question his tactics ? It's all well and good people being unhappy about displays but looking at the bigger picture should be the focus and not why Pardew does what he does, because he obviously plays the team he believes will suit the game at hand, plus resting players that he believes will benefit. West Brom are a really good team and are not a team that we believe we have a right to beat, so going gung ho against them can sometimes bite you on the arse . We've got one of the best managers than we have had in a long time...a manager with no big time4 Charlie reputation, who goes about his business bringing players up to scratch and we are seeing it with a good few of them, regardless of performances not being up to some fans standard. We aren't entitled to anything, the team have to work their bollocks off to be entitled to any spoils of any match and sometimes getting up to speed can go both ways..... you either start off like a train or you get it right as the season goes on and we haven;t quite got into gear fully but we will, I'm sure of that. W.B.A have started the season like a train and could have carried it on against us but for some good fortune on our part, yet it happens and can kick start a season for us whilst also having an adverse affect on W.B.A.

Here's a picture of Mars surface, where the rover will pick up some samples. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/multimedia/pia16204.html

We have lost 2 out of 9 games this season. Both games against the top 2, I don't think there's any need to worry. Just one quarter of the season gone.

We are right up with the pack and are playing average. I'd say that's a good sign of how far we have come to be honest. If we had played average just a few years ago, we would be sat at the bottom looking grim, yet we all know that this team has a few more gears to step up to.

Just to clarify something. We aren't playing very well in games, yet we are 4 points off a champions league place. Yes I know it's daft to look at it like that after 9 games but if we can be in this position after playing badly, Imagine what we can do when we are firing on all cylinders.

We will get games where we deserve to win and don't, it's all swings and roundabouts.