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It's going to be the footballing equivalent of the greenhouse scene in Scum

That's fine by me if they still went to the Metro centre or maybe the match or for a meal in town. I'm sure that some do but as I say having their own schools, rarely marrying outside their group and erecting a sort of fence around them is wrong imo. No need to have a pop at the Jews like that. The thing is I have great admiration for Jewish pride in their culture and their loyalty to thatr notion but at the same time looking back on history I think their "insistence" on living seperately has done them no favours when it comes to the obvious persecution. I realise on some occasions they won't have had a choice of course. You've only got to look as far as DannyB, he won't even post on his own forums

Has it though? Would you really prefer to live in the 60's, 70's, 80's or 90's than the 00's? We may be on the verge of recession but quality of life for the vast majority of people in the country is fantastic compared to what it has been in the past. We're hardly turning into a third world country. Are you not mistaking quality of life with standard of living? I'd much rather be in the 60s! Rose-tinted nostalgia for a time you never knew imo. I'd imagine it was pretty grim in comparison to now. Good music and good drugs. Apart from those I don't think the 60's was that good

I think the "Muslim country in 60 years" is obviously shite but the underlying fear behind that is as you say reasonable. However I think the constitution both you and I would like to see is a long way off linked as it is to the monarchy. Having said that I'm hoping the idiocy of the jug-eared twat might open up a debate when he finally gets in which might see progress. I have to say I like the idea on mulitcultarism in principle - I would hate to see a homegenised society where everyone is "English" (whatever that really means) but the isolation of some communities is a stumbling block. It's not just Muslims on this btw - there are communities as far ranging asas orthodox jews and Scottish highlanders who I think lead very insular existences. I wouldn't force openness on theme but I'd certainly encourage it Jewtown in Gateshead is a good example. You can't get moved round there for skullcaps and beards.

Has it though? Would you really prefer to live in the 60's, 70's, 80's or 90's than the 00's? We may be on the verge of recession but quality of life for the vast majority of people in the country is fantastic compared to what it has been in the past. We're hardly turning into a third world country.

The irony here is that you support ID Cards, which frankly make issues like that (both governmental control and disallowing and data theft and publication) much easier. Danny B supports ID cards? Ooooh, we can have a brilliant 'discussion' about that. I'm shit hot on erosion of civil liberties at the minute Bet he supports the 48 day terror detention an'aal.

The focus of the BNP, and all far right wing political organisations for over a century was against the four be's. Now there are even jews in the BNP, they are no longer the target, the target are muslims, which suggests that there'll always be a non-white English target. However....I repeat SOME of the targets and values of the BNP are not bad at all. I mean muslims are here to stay now, they've been here 60 years and there's fuck all we can do now, but proper integration is not too much to ask and coming here for the right reasons. I agree completely, but the BNP are opposed to intergration.

Kraut women > British women but I think our blokes have the edge on the Germans. Far too much leather and too many mullets for my liking.

I live in a LibDem council area and they're wank. I thought you only voted for the BNP as a protest against the Tories and Blue Labour? Why use your vote as a protest if they're not in power?

Lets see now. Where exactly do you think the immigrant [anti English] percentage of the population is going to stop growing ? 20% ? 30% 45% Where is it suddenly going to hit a brick wall ? Logic isn't your strong point, I can see that Which brainwashed hippy taught you at school ? Hippy? Oh dear. I went to a comprehensive school the bowels of deepest, darkest Washington. If this list is anything to go by then I went to school in the BNP's fucking heartland Brainwashing me to become a left leaning type probably wasn't high on the agenda. According to a BBC survey only 7.5% of people in the UK were born abroad. We've got a very, very, very long way to go before we get anywhere near your figures, especially as a fair number of immigrants are moving back to their home countries, the vast majority coming from Western Europe. I've had cunts tell me that what Enoch Powell said is coming true. Well, it isn't as Enoch Powell was talking about the influx of Afro-Caribbean immigrants to the country which back in the day were seen as the scurge of white Britain. Very unsurprisingly this wasn't the case and now 40 years later we've got people still pointing to the Rivers of Blood speech only this time referring to immigrants from the Middle East. Okay, places like Bradford and Luton may have large amounts of Muslims living in the area but i'm yet to see any Islamic Party of Great Britain councillors elbowing their way into power in those areas. This is the part where you justify your dodgy views by saying you've been around and seen what X, Y and Z has done to this country. Yer kna, that experience argument.

Can we ban Danny for bring a right wing knobber instead of just being a cockney WUM, Mods? Cheers.

Depends what your basis is. I have no opposition to EU worker migration or skilled immigration of any kind. I am opposed to Asian immigration of "peasants" by extended family/arranged marriage because I don't feel they come here for the right reasons which benefit the country. I think in those terms any debate is fine. If on the other hand people start talking about too many Poles taking our jobs or too many blacks moving in then I think using the racist label is fair enough because people who cry about being called racist never seem to object to the huge numbers of Aussies etc who come here. The 'Poles taking our jobs' argument has kind of fell flat over recent months since there are more immigrants go back to Western Europe than coming in

Are you saying someone could join the BNP and not realise what they are all about? That person would be a moron to an incredible degree - as Skol said if you have very strong ideas on immigration then the UKIP is a lot less nasty UKIP? A party that is drafting in foreigners, a Spanish woman to tell us not to join the EU. I am not saying it is right but the PC lefty leanings of this country doesn't leave much choice for those who are opposed to immigration. Just because UKIP doesn't discriminate against it's members on a racial basis doesn't mean it's any less the national party you crave. The alternative to UKIP is the English Democrats which is a growing party but again it doesn't simply want to boot wogs, spics and chinks out our country so you probably won't be in favour If you're a racialist then just admit it. I'd have much more respect for you if you laid your cards on the table rather than played silly buggers by defending the BNP and not committing to anything. Christ, even Stevie has managed to come out and say he votes for them albeit on as a 'protest' (If I had a penny for every time i'd heard that).

I disagree with western military presence in the middle east and the unwavering support of Israel at the expense of Palestinians. Seems the organisation that best represents my views is Al Quaeda. Pathetic, I suggest you do a bit of reseach. On what? You should clearly be joining Hamas

Fucking hell. I never thought i'd like Russell Brand but I dee The dandy, Victorian cunt is spot on. Bunch of teenagers in Ben Sherman shirts with trying to explain their affiliations with a load pseudo-intellectual chod. Working class? Fuck off. I'm working class and proud but i'm not going out and joining the BNP. "Dis cuntry is gunna be extinct cos of da Muslims, innit!" Cockends. There will never be an Islamic government in the UK. Why? Because it's a fucking secular country. I hate wankers like that. I respect, but don't entirely understand, nationalism however I hate racism. The two seem to have been thrust together over the past few years and it's just not on.

Does that include the "I've been a member for 20 years!!" bloke? Aye, a member when the were openly Nazi. That's something to shout about Id does undermine Danny's point that when asked if the BNP was racist, its deputy leader Richard Edmonds said, "We are 100 per cent racist, yes" IIRC a fairly prominent member was caught on telephone by Sky News saying black people had smaller brains than white people.

Does that include the "I've been a member for 20 years!!" bloke? Aye, a member when the were openly Nazi. That's something to shout about Also, those who say they support the BNP, why? Their policies are suicidal. Fiscally they're completely irresponsible, saying that they're going to kick out immigrants (which will raise taxes) and pay the immigrants they kick out as well as there countries (more money down the drain). Not only that but they're going to keep open all post offices, put more money into hospitals, put more bobbies on the beat etc. Unless they have access to some of that Nazi gold Channel 5 keep making documentaries about then I think they're talking bollocks.

You're wrong. The BNP was create and is maintained by those who have a small minded, small town fear of other nations. May I remind you that the BNP used to say that their bible was Mein Kampf? If you're worried about immigration, crime and discrimination then join either UKIP or the English Democrats. Two parties I don't like but have respect for because they're nationalist but not racist.

Yes it does. Racism pervades their every policy and viewpoint. "concerned about immigration" my arse - their repatriation of british citizens based on skin colour is about as racist as you can get. Myth. Do you really think the repatriation will include Aussies, Kiwis and South Africans? A. No mention of skin colour B. voluntary C. Incentivised. You sum up the reactionary bullshit that surrounds the party IMO. Voluntary basically means that we'll allow you to move out before we kick you out. Also, even if they don't mention skin colour they are in opposition to interracial marriages so I doubt they'll be kicking out the Oirish, Aussies and Yanks. Just the blacks, browns and yellows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__DdFiV7aT8 Just a nationalist party? I suggest you watch that documentary and see the type of fuckwits we're dealing with here. Remember, this is the party that used to claim Mein Kampf was it's bible.

The richest club in the world and they have Peter Ramage playing for them

One of your funnier ones, Shinton

Too right. People walk around with fucking fidel castro t shirts and all that lefty bollox as though it is something to be proud of. Just because you are BNP (I am not) it doesnt make you hitler. No, it just makes you a fucking idiot. No it doesn't it makes you someone with different ideologies that support a perfectly legal British Party. You can join the communist party and no one bats an eye lid. Be in the slightest bit nationalistic and you are hung out to dry. Disgrace IMO. It makes them an idiot because if they knew even the slightest bit about politics they'd realise straight away that the BNP's manifesto is pie in the sky and their policies are completely unworkable. It's more madcap than the average shite put out by the main political party to coax in the floating voters. If people join the party knowing this then you've got to ask what their real motivation is. The BNP is a fascist party with racist policies masquerading as a nationalist party. Where as communism is a proven hit. Of course it doesn't fit with today's society but it is peoples right to join a part without having their identity revealed by some lefty trouble maker. If someone on this list gets a letter bomb the owner of that blog should be complicit. Did I say communism was workable? Why do you assume it's the work of a lefty when even the BNP have blamed it on an annoyed former member? The BNP and NF use a website called Redwatch to promote attacks on 'Reds' so they had it coming to them. All Im saying is that all extremes are unworkable. As for redwatch, they only go after the top bods, not everyday members. You clearly weren't. You were having a go at the left while bemoaning the fact nationalism gets you named and shamed. You were very close to defending the BNP. Redwatch is full of images of everyday people who do something which they judge slightly Marxist. They've got the pictures and details of some students from Northumbria University who's only crime was selling some copies of the Socialist Worker. Top bods my arse so fucking what if he's defending the BNP, if thats what he wants to do [which he isn't and what you say is nothing other than the usual rabid anger of an obsessed left winger]. Typical left winger, believe in freedom of speech but only if you agree with it. If you think the extreme right are tosspots, then the extreme left are too. At the end of the day, we don't have a duty to look after the rest of the world and give them a home to our own detriment. If they want to come here, but not observe our laws, cultures and instead want to enforce their own on us they can fuck off. Correct, and we're not. Only in the eyes of the Daily Mail and Daily Express are we doing that. If they're going to come here, sit on benefits and contribute nothing then we should ship them out. The same goes for the British citizens who do exactly the same. If you're not going to pay your way then i've no time for you, it doesn't matter whether you're brown, black, yellow, white, green, orange or purple. But this thread isn't about multi-culturalism. It's about the BNP being fascist bigots, which they are. If you want to support a nationalist party then go UKIP or English Democrats. If you want to support a rascist party then go BNP.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=32...681785381908982 My heart fucking bleeds

Too right. People walk around with fucking fidel castro t shirts and all that lefty bollox as though it is something to be proud of. Just because you are BNP (I am not) it doesnt make you hitler. No, it just makes you a fucking idiot. No it doesn't it makes you someone with different ideologies that support a perfectly legal British Party. You can join the communist party and no one bats an eye lid. Be in the slightest bit nationalistic and you are hung out to dry. Disgrace IMO. It makes them an idiot because if they knew even the slightest bit about politics they'd realise straight away that the BNP's manifesto is pie in the sky and their policies are completely unworkable. It's more madcap than the average shite put out by the main political party to coax in the floating voters. If people join the party knowing this then you've got to ask what their real motivation is. The BNP is a fascist party with racist policies masquerading as a nationalist party. Where as communism is a proven hit. Of course it doesn't fit with today's society but it is peoples right to join a part without having their identity revealed by some lefty trouble maker. If someone on this list gets a letter bomb the owner of that blog should be complicit. Did I say communism was workable? Why do you assume it's the work of a lefty when even the BNP have blamed it on an annoyed former member? The BNP and NF use a website called Redwatch to promote attacks on 'Reds' so they had it coming to them. All Im saying is that all extremes are unworkable. As for redwatch, they only go after the top bods, not everyday members. You clearly weren't. You were having a go at the left while bemoaning the fact nationalism gets you named and shamed. You were very close to defending the BNP. Redwatch is full of images of everyday people who do something which they judge slightly Marxist. They've got the pictures and details of some students from Northumbria University who's only crime was selling some copies of the Socialist Worker. Top bods my arse