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Immigration wasn't a big issue for me during the vote. I made that perfectly clear several times. However it was a big issue for a lot of voters. We limit immigration in a few different ways. Stopping free movement from the EU and more foresight on training for what we actually need (as with nurses), would be a good start.
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Cheers
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Not at all. Not how it works. A win is a win.
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No, I'm saying 17,500,000 people voting in a particular way focusses your mind.
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I never said it did
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No, a separate tax or something that is specifically for the NHS. Should be a cross party thing set in stone.
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Na, the EU's shit mate. We're well out. One day they'll have marches where us Brexiteers are honoured.
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Proofs in the pudding..... And if there's one thing I'm an expert on.
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Not my thinking. The nursing profession has been crying out for more home trained nurses for years. Personally I think making it a degree profession has caused a lot of problems as well. Basically we should have some separate way of funding the NHS and sort the mess out properly.
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The EU hasn't stopped it. The desire hasn't been there to stop it. Now it very clearly is. Not a chance the Tory party will fight the next general election without immigration in our own hands. The people have spoken.
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I think it's just all part of the sea change going on where the average worker feels a bit short changed from a country's overall success. Whether that's to do with nursing, zero hour contracts, low wages etc. I'm not suggesting you can go from one to the other overnight, but you have to start addressing the problems. I think there's been little desire there from any party previously, but now I think we are at the start of it. I'm not saying it's easy either as any government only has so much money to go around. But as we are seeing with the living wage and what's happened at Sports Direct, it's a lot easier to start with the private sector. Viva le revolution
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See above. We were talking about getting immigration down to 10's of thousands. That includes all immigration.
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It costs a lot more to train a nurse than it does to pay for a plane ticket. Training numbers are kept low, thousands can't get on course and we make the self imposed shortfall up with immigrants.
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Yes.
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It's to do with overall immigration numbers you miserable horror of a man.
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People power. You know, the thing that's got us this far As we are seeing today with sports direct, a bit of pressure works wonders. Immigration isn't working when we are stopping young women training as nurses and are instead shipping in immigrants to save money.
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A break won't be politically acceptable here. Won't happen. I have a feeling we are going to be very tough on what we demand and can't see the Germans accepting export Tarrifs on cars etc. We are a massive economy, have a lot of clout in the world and are in a very strong position. They'll see sense.
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I think on the run up to 2020 it will be a given that the spotlight will be on previous Tory promises to get it down to tens of thousands.
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Vast majority of leavers.
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Sounds like there's a lot more to come out on him yet. Not sure how his wife is sticking by him.
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Not sure where you get that from. Article 50 gets pressed in Jan 17 starting the two year clock ticking. All done and dusted Jan 19. Over a year before the next election. No second ref. As for the points based system, just another bit of rhetoric from a leave campaign that was a campaign, not a government. I think the vast majority will be happy to be out of the EU and have "control" over the immigration system.
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Very nice.
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