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Not at all. Not how it works. A win is a win.

No, I'm saying 17,500,000 people voting in a particular way focusses your mind.

I never said it did

No, a separate tax or something that is specifically for the NHS. Should be a cross party thing set in stone.

Na, the EU's shit mate. We're well out. One day they'll have marches where us Brexiteers are honoured.

Proofs in the pudding..... And if there's one thing I'm an expert on.

Not my thinking. The nursing profession has been crying out for more home trained nurses for years. Personally I think making it a degree profession has caused a lot of problems as well. Basically we should have some separate way of funding the NHS and sort the mess out properly.

The EU hasn't stopped it. The desire hasn't been there to stop it. Now it very clearly is. Not a chance the Tory party will fight the next general election without immigration in our own hands. The people have spoken.

I think it's just all part of the sea change going on where the average worker feels a bit short changed from a country's overall success. Whether that's to do with nursing, zero hour contracts, low wages etc. I'm not suggesting you can go from one to the other overnight, but you have to start addressing the problems. I think there's been little desire there from any party previously, but now I think we are at the start of it. I'm not saying it's easy either as any government only has so much money to go around. But as we are seeing with the living wage and what's happened at Sports Direct, it's a lot easier to start with the private sector. Viva le revolution

See above. We were talking about getting immigration down to 10's of thousands. That includes all immigration.

It costs a lot more to train a nurse than it does to pay for a plane ticket. Training numbers are kept low, thousands can't get on course and we make the self imposed shortfall up with immigrants.

Yes.

It's to do with overall immigration numbers you miserable horror of a man.

People power. You know, the thing that's got us this far As we are seeing today with sports direct, a bit of pressure works wonders. Immigration isn't working when we are stopping young women training as nurses and are instead shipping in immigrants to save money.

A break won't be politically acceptable here. Won't happen. I have a feeling we are going to be very tough on what we demand and can't see the Germans accepting export Tarrifs on cars etc. We are a massive economy, have a lot of clout in the world and are in a very strong position. They'll see sense.

I think on the run up to 2020 it will be a given that the spotlight will be on previous Tory promises to get it down to tens of thousands.

Government

Vast majority of leavers.

Sounds like there's a lot more to come out on him yet. Not sure how his wife is sticking by him.

Not sure where you get that from. Article 50 gets pressed in Jan 17 starting the two year clock ticking. All done and dusted Jan 19. Over a year before the next election. No second ref. As for the points based system, just another bit of rhetoric from a leave campaign that was a campaign, not a government. I think the vast majority will be happy to be out of the EU and have "control" over the immigration system.

Very nice.

Ignoring all the tosh in this post..... It will all be done and dusted by the next election.

I don't see that at all. It's pretty clear that our goal is free access, control over immigration and laws, whilst also being able to have free trade agreements with whoever we want. In the immediate aftermath of the vote the "willy waving" was very loud that we won't be getting all that. It's still there but a lot less audible. What is going on now is a very sensible consultation process across the country involving business, universities, city services, etc to identify the very important nuances to the different sectors. At the same time legal eagles are identifying how we untangle the decades of law making. This is probably the most important process in the whole Brexit so that we go into negotiations with every possible angle and wiggle room covered, all geared to get as close to the best deal as possible. I watched the full Brexit statement and debate today and overall it was pretty positive stuff from all sides. As I said during the Brexit campaign, I just can't see a scenario where the Germans and others are going to get into tit for tat Tarrifs.