LeazesMag

the accountancy clown is looking now ....... maybe he can answer the post I've made to Meenzer. I think he will disappear with his head up his arse again.

stop moaning you clown. You got rid of ambitious directors, which is what you wished for.

show me where I have ever said "what if FF had stayed". Other people ask me that, you dope. And yes, I'm making a judgement on the future, just as I made one years ago that Mike Ashley would use NUFC as an advertisement vehicle for Sports Direct and would not attempt to challenge the heights seen before, settling for premiership survival to promote the company. He will sell a player to make a profit if this isn't done operationally, he will never attempt to match the clubs we used to compete with and finish above that are now attempting to match the sugar daddies. He is a retailer by instinct, he will buy and sell players like he does with his companies to try and do it, everything has a price, He will not back his managers fully as a manager of NUFC ought to be. We are competing with the 2nd rate selling clubs. As the financial whizz kids dismissed this as "nonsense", and still do, and continue to do so, you tell me what is nonsense about that. You couldn't make it up, indeed you couldn't. Then you can leave the intelligent debate to the people who know about the football club and aren't deluded fuckwits.

class is permanent

go back and support Reading, another 2nd rate club if that is the levels you understand. I'm talking about the setup and aims over 15 years, not a couple of cherry picking points. Idiot. I've posted you the facts. Only Ashley took us down, and the previous regime saved us from going into the 3rd division and got us promoted and into europe and the Champions League. Don't see what Reading have to do with owt considering i've supported Newcastle since I was 4 years old. Hell, I was a season ticket holder during the premiership yet when Newcastle played at the Mad Stad I was in the away stand supporting Newcastle. We lost both times mind. I'm also talking about the set up over 15 years. I on the other hand am looking not only at the good times but at where we were when it ended; nowhere near where we were when the club peaked. Are you enjoying this season at all? yes I am thank you, but I would be enjoying it a whole lot more if I could see the club keeping its best players and attempting to go higher, particularly by not pocketing the Carroll money and backing the manager with it. How many times does this basic stuff need to be explained to people.

yes it is No and the very fact you can't see it renders any further conversation pointless. yes it is, and the response by Brock Manson proves it.

the bigger picture is the setup and ambitions of the club, which sadly are more long term. You will see. YOU haven't answered the question, chum. It seems YOU can't contribute to an intellectual debate. Gemmill might say you're spoiling this forum. Would Shepherd have kept us up with YOUR man Allardyce at the helm? Is playing for a draw at rock-bottom Derby better than finishing 6th under Ashley? Was it ambition to hand a long term, multi-million pound contract to Mark Viduka? Once again the pseudo oracle of all things ambitious can't come up with an answer. You shambles of a man. go back and support Reading, another 2nd rate club if that is the levels you understand. I'm talking about the setup and aims over 15 years, not a couple of cherry picking points. Idiot. I've posted you the facts. Only Ashley took us down, and the previous regime saved us from going into the 3rd division and got us promoted and into europe and the Champions League.

but he didn't. Only Ashley did. "FF" along with the Halls, saved the club from administration, got the club into the premiership, champions League and europe, and was NEVER relegated. Stick to the facts. I'll stick to the facts when YOU look at the whole picture rather than picking sweetcorn from shite. FF turned the club around, almost saw us win the league (albeit almost 20 years ago) and did indeed bankroll a club that featured as a prominent European team for a number of seasons. YOU are without a doubt, 100% correct on this and not a single poster disagrees with this fact. What he also did (and what YOU refuse to accept) was utterly destroy us financially by spending far beyond our means using money that we didn't have. He hired dreadful managers after an appalling choice sacking Sir Bobby a handful of games into a season. He signed aged mercenary players who simply weren't coming for anything other than the astronomical wages on offer. He may have got us to the lofty heights of european football (all whilst ultimately winning nowt but the Intertoto Cup ) but he is just as culpable for our relegation as Ashley. He had us teetering on the edge for Ashley to teeter us over. This all happened by the way, it's not conjecture. FF's final few seasons saw us take gigantic fat waddling strides in a backwards direction because his money spunking method wasn't working anymore and he had no Plan B. Do you honestly think that FF would have kept us up with YOUR man Allardyce at the helm? Now we're battling for a top 7 finish - our highest in YEARS and you say it's a flash in the pan in terms of progress. The thing is we can only tell if that's for sure if we aren't in a similar/better position both points and squad-wise at the end of next season. the bigger picture is the setup and ambitions of the club, which sadly are more long term. You will see.

I don't think he'll agree with an awful lot I say, why should he, being an NUFC fan an all? Your post doesn't really say anything does it, just a 'oh fuck, I'll have to put this down, I won't comment on anything he's said because it sounds right, I'll just see if I can be clever enough to mock it' you're not. You don't need to be clever to take the piss out of a scouser or Leazes. You're both giving it away. Still think Dalglish got the Suarez thing right, you dopey sheep? indeed, what a shame the forum accountancy clown can't explain what he has been calling rubbish for the last 5 years.

Not sure what we're even arguing about then. We have almost a squad of players out of contract.... Danny Guthrie Peter Lovenkrands Alan Smith Ryan Donaldson Ole Soderberg James Tavernier Tamas Kadar Phil Airey Michael Richardson Conor Newton Brad Inman Samuel Adjei Stephen Folan Jeff Henderson Patrick Nzuzi They've played little between them anyway, so drop them out of the equation. Harper, Forster and Xisco seem to be done too, without any iinvolvement this season, so drop them out. Considering all that, out first team squad is down to 19 bodies. We can all agree, the players on the books are too many, but you have to say the players pushing the first team are too few as well. If our plan is to lose all of the above deadweight, but just replace them with a few slightly better players, to flesh out the reserves that's desparately disappointing. I agree with everything you've said, however I've not seen anything to suggest the highlighted bit will happen. I think they could bring in 4 or 5 quality players over the next 2 summers, get rid of 10 and we would improve drastically.

you mean trophy players Unfortunately, some would prefer a kid kicking a ball around a park in Angola for a fiver.

They had a man over as well. Simpson was apparently injured and couldnt get back. We had 4 players at the end of the pitch. Suicidal play. thats a load of shite imo laughed when Pardew said it after the game, if you're injured the last thing you do is go that far forward to take a throw in, unless you're a complete moron. that is right. Although they were the best team, we could have easily got that point with a little more discipline, and discipline and shape are probably the most important thing where defending is concerned as a unit. Simpson ought to have stayed back and held his position. These things happen, but it cost us a point.

So basically you like him mainly because he doesn't mock Liverpool like the rest of us do. I take everybody on face value. Fool.

Basically, Ashley is a retailer by instinct. Everything has a price, so he will sell anything, and keep making changes, selling and buying. Where you come unstuck is if the money is trousered or wasted. And in football, this happens rather a lot. And its not the way to build a successful football club.

it says something, when a supporter of another club makes a post superior in every way to anything you have ever posted. I see now, lavish Leazes with praise and he's as nice as pie. What a star, and 100% right about everything ever written. Correct what I say though.........JawD also posted more sense in one post that the clown has ever posted.

If we do nothing, we're down to a 22 man squad. We should be buying 3 first team quality players and selling no-one in order to improve the bench and to have a squad that can compete. For every one sold on top of that, an improvement should be brought in. We should be buying 3 first team players anyway, the point I've already made is that we've got so much dead wood in the squad that we can cut the numbers and invest the wages saved for those better players coming in. You might think it's essential to have 7 strikers and 7 central midfielders on the books but I can't say I do, yawn. Do you always wear those blinkers ? Apart from when you are harping on about Spurs, DOF systems or preferring Denis Wise to Keegan.

No mention of knocking ambitions HF (or maybe you should be called Leazes-Lite) . Always thought it would define his policy/strategy, but, in my assesment of that I was wrong, I thought lack of spend would indicate he'd start recouping his losses, he didn't recoup at all. bollocks. You thought he would spend the money, meaning you could say I was wrong when I said he wouldn't. You also said after the deadline that he was "now recouping". [ie pocketing the cash rather than backing his manager]. What a lying cunt you are.

it says something, when a supporter of another club makes a post superior in every way to anything you have ever posted.

but he didn't. Only Ashley did. "FF" along with the Halls, saved the club from administration, got the club into the premiership, champions League and europe, and was NEVER relegated. Stick to the facts.

the usual moronic stuff from the forum finance and footballing clown. This discussion is now way beyond you. Fool.

I think quite a few "hate" him, not that it matters or I give a toss either way, but its 100% nailed that the flak I get is because I didn't side with the majority who were totally convinced that anyone would do better than Fred. Its simple law of averages and perception, a club where only 4 had performed better over 15 years, what are the odds of someone doing better, and what are the odds someone else understanding the club and knowing its potential ? Everything aimed at me stems from this ie the comments from the forum clowns shouting "rubbish", but are unable to substantiate these claims after 5 years which is precisely the reason why they have gone down the road of blocking me and hurling childish comments rather than responding intelligently when asked. I quite agree that enough is enough, so far as this sort of thing is concerned, so it is very sad that they cannot acknowledge that they have continued this sort of comments and even go to the extent of blaming others for ruining the forum rather than give the necessary, correct and adult response. I always said that Souness should be sacked, early on - I am no different to a lot of people in that I wanted the club to succeed under him despite my better instincts and sometimes my heart rules my head - but from the point he fell out with Bellamy I was absolutely categoric that he should be sacked and things were going to go downwards, and actually "bickered" with the vast majority of people on here and on NO who said he "should be given time and money to build his own team". All of this is why I am banned from there, because it just went on and on, but when you know you are right, why should you say what others want to hear ? This is where all the opposition to me on NO and on here started, and it's continued ever since. I am 100% convinced that what I say about Mike Ashley is correct and its quite amazing that this has continued for almost 5 years now, after everything that has happened. It's as if people are still clinging to the belief that he will in fact prove better than Fred, such is their obsessed hatred and refusal to accept the fact that he has got nowhere near so far and the setup of the club is such that it is not going to happen either. The latest statement that they are going to improve the bench is mind boggling, and only further emphasises the limited ambitions and the fact that we are not going to see the entire Carroll money [and the money from other major sales that will come either], and that can have only one result, unfortunately. Id be interested then to hear anyone on here say they "hate" him. Well, not him but maybe "them". I remember when we played Liverpool and I was down at Anfield when GS was the manager. We left the stadium and the Sky TV cameras were there and they came up to us. I wouldnt speak to them but my mate did. He said we had to back the manager, it was Fred appointment so we had to back him and support him. The reason he said this though was because the Sky crew wanted us to say how much we hated GS and pretty much said they would only air our comment if that was our view. It's right though, you cant appoint a manager and then not back him. It was prob the lowest point of the club in recent years (apart from relegation now ofc and JFK which for me eclipsed that), slowly seeing the club be dismantled. Bellamy, Robert out Luque in etc. Morale and feeling about the club changed overnight. Signing Owen for me was a last throw of the dice and I think things were getting desperate. For me, this is when we lost what we had under FF and we started to struggle on and off the field. When we talk about things being better if FF left, I think it's easy to forget that we were going through a totally different period in the clubs history. This wasnt about not spending and then being put out of the qualifiers by Partizan etc, this was about Souness, Roeder, Fat Sam. Roeder didnt fair too badly to be fair to him, but once GS came in I think the atmosphere about the club changed. It wasnt that fans wanted better than Robson, I think we wanted just to be a top 6-7 side consistently. I didnt know what to expect when MA came in. I can recall now just saying "be careful what you wish for". Fuck me, I didnt think we would go through what we have though. We've been through the mill with MA but its still better than when I started following the club in the late 80s. I've said a few times I have chose to ignore the off the field stuff as it boils by piss but on the pitch at the moment Im enjoying it which after all is my main reason to watch it in the first place. at last, someone posts an intelligent post.

wtf is the point of that ?

go for the truth. I can't help it if they can't take it. Are you saying people should get banned for having an opinion ? What if time proves it to be indisputably correct ? This time last year, Toonpac was saying re. the Carroll cash, "wait until after the summer deadline" before knocking the ambitions. No I wasn't fucking lying cunt

Agreed. Maybe it's time you moved on from it. sorry like, but it hasn't been me lately who has been hurling childish comments and refusing to debate points intelligently. Maybe you should open your eyes ? You have just joined my "won't reply" list, unless you reply intelligently of course.

go for the truth. I can't help it if they can't take it. Are you saying people should get banned for having an opinion ? What if time proves it to be indisputably correct ? This time last year, Toonpac was saying re. the Carroll cash, "wait until after the summer deadline" before knocking the ambitions.