Jimbo 133 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 20= George Graham and Howard Kendall 19 Jim McLean 18 Kenny Dalglish 17 Harry Catterick 16 Ron Greenwood 15 Stan Cullis 14 Jose Mourinho 13 Bill Struth 12 Sir Bobby Robson 11 Don Revie 10 Bill Nicholson 9 Arsene Wenger 8 Herbert Chapman 7 Bill Shankly 6 Brian Clough 5 Sir Alf Ramsay 4 Sir Matt Busby 3 Jock Stein 2 Bob Paisley 1 Sir Alex Ferguson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 14 Jose Mourinho 9 Arsene Wenger British? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 14 Jose Mourinho 9 Arsene Wenger British? managers of British clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 14 Jose Mourinho 9 Arsene Wenger British? managers of British clubs But that's not the title jimbo. "20 Greatest British Managers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 14 Jose Mourinho 9 Arsene Wenger British? managers of British clubs But that's not the title jimbo. "20 Greatest British Managers" Pedant ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 14 Jose Mourinho 9 Arsene Wenger British? managers of British clubs But that's not the title jimbo. "20 Greatest British Managers" Pedant ! Wanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I agree with no. 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I agree with no. 1. Only because of what he did at Aberdeen, it's been all cheque book management since! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I agree with no. 1. Only because of what he did at Aberdeen, it's been all cheque book management since! Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 86 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 thing is he's got them through several groups of players and always had them challenging. think wenger should be higher up the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? Herbert Chapman won it with Huddersfield then Arsenal. Different era but his formation was revolutionary iirc, moving away from 2-3-5 to the 'W M' with a deep lying centre-half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38763 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Where's Big Sam? F*cking outrage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? Herbert Chapman won it with Huddersfield then Arsenal. Different era but his formation was revolutionary iirc, moving away from 2-3-5 to the 'W M' with a deep lying centre-half. I miss the 2-3-5. I remember playing that shape as a kid, it was all about goals - unfortunately usually a lot against you if you were really shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14585 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? Herbert Chapman won it with Huddersfield then Arsenal. Different era but his formation was revolutionary iirc, moving away from 2-3-5 to the 'W M' with a deep lying centre-half. "Inverting the Pyramid"? Edited July 7, 2009 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? Herbert Chapman won it with Huddersfield then Arsenal. Different era but his formation was revolutionary iirc, moving away from 2-3-5 to the 'W M' with a deep lying centre-half. I miss the 2-3-5. I remember playing that shape as a kid, it was all about goals - unfortunately usually a lot against you if you were really shite. I never realised you were that old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? To be fair, I was only 5 when he got the Liverpool job and I never even realised he'd won the title 3 times in 5 years. I've always thought of him as riding on the coat-tails of his predecessors success there though...and of course buying the title at Blackburn. I can't see Mark Hughes being able to buy the title in the next 2 years like, so it might just be my hatred of the man that's blinded me to his quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? Herbert Chapman won it with Huddersfield then Arsenal. Different era but his formation was revolutionary iirc, moving away from 2-3-5 to the 'W M' with a deep lying centre-half. "Inverting the Pyramid"? Is that like the Xmas Tree as used by Venables on occasion? Anyway, WM was a flat back 3 with two midfielders in front on them then another two attacking midfielders / deep-lying inside forwards ahead of them and three up front (i.e. two wingers and a centre-forward). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? To be fair, I was only 5 when he got the Liverpool job and I never even realised he'd won the title 3 times in 5 years. I've always thought of him as riding on the coat-tails of his predecessors success there though...and of course buying the title at Blackburn. I can't see Mark Hughes being able to buy the title in the next 2 years like, so it might just be my hatred of the man that's blinded me to his quality. I think you're along the right lines of how he went about it though even if it is easier said than done. I don't think he's a genius in anything like the way some of the others were (or indeed, the way he was as a player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14585 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? Herbert Chapman won it with Huddersfield then Arsenal. Different era but his formation was revolutionary iirc, moving away from 2-3-5 to the 'W M' with a deep lying centre-half. "Inverting the Pyramid"? Is that like the Xmas Tree as used by Venables on occasion? Anyway, WM was a flat back 3 with two midfielders in front on them then another two attacking midfielders / deep-lying inside forwards ahead of them and three up front (i.e. two wingers and a centre-forward). No, it's the name of a book on football tactics down the years that I've been reading http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/....do?sku=6340692 I think the phrase refers to the overall change in formations over the years from having the narrow tip of the "pyramid" at the back (i.e. the defence consisting of only 2 fullbacks) when football began to be played with some thought to formation and tactics in the late 1800s to what we have at present where the base of the "pyramid" is at the back and many of the top teams play with only one striker at the tip. We have seen in the last four or five years a very significant devlopment in formations with this idea, the long accepted 4-4-2 becoming less and less prevelent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? Herbert Chapman won it with Huddersfield then Arsenal. Different era but his formation was revolutionary iirc, moving away from 2-3-5 to the 'W M' with a deep lying centre-half. "Inverting the Pyramid"? Is that like the Xmas Tree as used by Venables on occasion? Anyway, WM was a flat back 3 with two midfielders in front on them then another two attacking midfielders / deep-lying inside forwards ahead of them and three up front (i.e. two wingers and a centre-forward). No, it's the name of a book on football tactics down the years that I've been reading http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/....do?sku=6340692 I think the phrase refers to the overall change in formations over the years from having the narrow tip of the "pyramid" at the back (i.e. the defence consisting of only 2 fullbacks) when football began to be played with some thought to formation and tactics in the late 1800s to what we have at present where the base of the "pyramid" is at the back and many of the top teams play with only one striker at the tip. We have seen in the last four or five years a very significant devlopment in formations with this idea, the long accepted 4-4-2 becoming less and less prevelent. No, it wasn't from that book it was actually from a big article about the development of formations in the Dec '99 'Millenium' edition of World Soccer magazine. I think I might check that book out though, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Never rated Dalglish. How many others have won the title with two different clubs? Clough. Any more? Herbert Chapman won it with Huddersfield then Arsenal. Different era but his formation was revolutionary iirc, moving away from 2-3-5 to the 'W M' with a deep lying centre-half. I miss the 2-3-5. I remember playing that shape as a kid, it was all about goals - unfortunately usually a lot against you if you were really shite. I never realised you were that old. Cheeky bastid! I'm from Australia, you have to remember they only let us play soccer with a round ball from the mid 80s, so the 70s were like the 1920s in world football. Is that like the Xmas Tree as used by Venables on occasion? Anyway, WM was a flat back 3 with two midfielders in front on them then another two attacking midfielders / deep-lying inside forwards ahead of them and three up front (i.e. two wingers and a centre-forward). Interesting, to get U9 and 10s at our club use to playing on a full size field and positional play we use a WM shape but it is interpreted as 3-2(DM)-2(wingers)-3 (with the CF just a little deeper that the strikers.) So: W M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 That's how Hungary (and Honved I think) used to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 The Brazilian 352 or the Dutch 343 have always been my faves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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