Craig 6321 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I've stuck this one in the football forum but I think we can extend it for any sport. Was watching ESPN Classics earlier today and they showed the England v Brazil match from 1970 and also the WC Final when Brazil destroyed Italy 4-1. Not olde enough to have witnessed it first hand but having seen archive footage of the era, it's my opinion that the Brazilian side of '70 was the greatest footballing side there's ever been. That said, England (although of course we were defending World Champions at the time) ran them very close. It's the game that should have been the final and, had Banks played against Germany in the QF and Charlton hadn't been withdrawn to be rested for the Semis, I think it would have happened. We were probably a better side in 1970 than we had been 4 years earlier when we won it, but we were still behind Brazil in terms of ability and 'living in their shadow' What other examples of this have there been over the years? We've had dominance in different sports: Liverpool, football, 80s Tyson, boxing, late 80s Senna, F1, late 80s Sampras, tennis, 90s Schumacher, F1, 90s/00s Woods, golf, late 90s/00s Federer, tennis, 00s Manchester United, football, 90s/00s In any of those instances (or any other for that matter) was there anyone living in their shadows - individuals or teams who, had the dominant force not been there, you feel were a cut about the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 No team other than the cantona-inspired Man Utd would've caught us in 95-96 Seeing such an attack-minded team lift the biggest prize could've made a big difference to the way other sides approached the league too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6321 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Never really thought about it when composing the thread Dr Ken but aye, we're a prime example from back in 95/96. Without Man Utd we'd have absolutely walked that season (and probably edged the next one too - despite a managerial change halfway through...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-I-S-S-O-K-O 0 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 No team other than the cantona-inspired Man Utd would've caught us in 95-96 Seeing such an attack-minded team lift the biggest prize could've made a big difference to the way other sides approached the league too. Cantona always gets all of the credit, but for me, Schmeichel was the main man for Man Utd that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Steve Davis, snooker, 80s and Jimmy White in the shadows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 17128 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 This is where the British media need shooting. Our Track cyclists have dominated for years and do we get to hear about it? Do we fuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&Wsy 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) IMHO, when it comes to dominance, this bloke trumps the lot & tops the pile p.s. Apologies for the strange commentary Edited November 16, 2009 by B&Wsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4017 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Holland in 74/78 were piss unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4017 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 You could also say that Leeds from about 67 to 76 were generally one of the best teams but lost out to a series of one-offs (plus the Scouse Cunts) in terms of the real dominance that they could/should have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Mick Hill < Steve Backley < Jan Zelezny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Steve Cram / Seb Coe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&Wsy 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Past - Rocky Marciano - Unbeaten (& fought for far less dosh!!) Present - Phil Taylor - & still dominating darts. Future (barring injury) - Usain Bolt - 'TAXIII'....... for the rest!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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